Here, Asif claiming himself to be a progressive and believes it is people’s choice to convert if they wish. Two Hindu women converted to Islam for the marriage in his family. Apparently, he is still conservative believing in patriarchy.
ASIF says: July 24, 2021
Look, just like we don’t complain on naming children and giving surname likewise we shouldn’t cry over conversion, it’s should be left to the couple decision, they have rights to decide for themselves, we shouldn’t complain on it unless the couple itself do, i said u i don’t cry over conversion issues as it’s useless, giving the patriarchy we have, the women after marriage will be indirectly forced to follow husband faiths so as far as she or he has no problem we should not give it any conspiracy or propaganda term. Even elite people do, India attorney Harish Salve married a brit woman and converted and baptized for her so why should we have problem when he hasn’t. If anyone asks me to convert and i did then one should respect my decision, don’t give it any stupid conspiracy or term. U people r not true fighter of freedom of choice, as far as one isn’t complaining about conversion or having husband surname also this surname is also common in the west as well.
We should avoid stupid term love Jih*d, people convert and leave an ideology for favor, we should respect their choice even if comes out of some greed or whatever unless she/he complains.
So refrain from using term like love jiha* even if the girl is ready to convert, respect her choice, there r millions of people who change political/religious and other ideology for their benefits, we don’t question them so we shouldn’t question it.
In my relatives too 2 hindu women married and converted and both r happily living with their husbands and we should respect their choice and let them enjoy live as they wish.
CASE 1:
Yes, 2 hindu women married in my relatives, one is my sister in law brother and other is my maternal uncle. The former lives in my locality which is Muslim majority so she has to adjust to her husband religion and culture but we still respect her decision when she said “I’m ready to accept everything expect having beef, she run away from her home so she has no connection with her parents, has been married for some 10yrs now and has 2 children, till now she doesn’t eat beef, her husband respect her this not having beef decision, so all she did out of choice and we should respect her decision as she isn’t complaining and is happily married. The hindu girl, who lives with us in Muslim locality, yes, doesn’t celebrate non Muslims festivals.
CASE 2:
2nd hindu woman, married just recently, 4 months ago, before this Ramadan, she is my ‘Mami’ (wife of maternal uncle), my uncle lives in hindu majority area, hindu girl fell in love and my uncle took her in my home for having Nikah, as she too converted but this hindu lady is a educated one and is working in an NGO, so if she has no problem for conversion and marry my uncle, then why should we have? She’s now living with my uncle in Hindu majority area and now recently, her parents accepted her decision and now things settled for her. My uncle is a non-religious Muslim as he lives in hindu majority area, so he hardly follows Islam. He’s just Muslim by birth, so now, she’s also living happily with my uncle. As nobody is objecting then why should we having any problems? As we respect a woman’s decision to marry outside religion/race/culture then we should respect her decision to accept her husband culture for whatever reasons she does, unless she herself complains of any foul play or force conversion.
This second lady, who recently got married, lives in hindu majority area, i don’t know about her religious celebration but yes, she converted willingly and we should respect her decision as millions of people leave and accept religion for some personal peace and favors. As far as they r happy then we r no one to question them and call it any conspiracy like Love Ji+ad.
Thanks and avoid any conspiracy term. –Asif
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Being I staunch muslim women of quraish tribe, my father being a Alim I have been taught Islam the best way it could have been. I am now totally disassociated with my faith. There is alot of patriarchy and women subjugation in Islam.
There are fatwas that even while delivering child if my shauhar wants sex I should give him sex.
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Hi Asif, thank you for sharing your views and your prior comments. Can you share more on “In my relatives too 2 hindu women married and converted (to Islam) and both r happily living with their husbands”? How much of Hinduism are they following today? Are those couples still celebrating Diwali, Holi, Krishna Janamasthami, along with Eid and other Muslim festivals? I have written a book Interfaith Marriage: Share and Respect with Equality and curious of how much “equality” of two faiths in those two marriages. Thank you.
Also clarify, the report (read) says, “A baptised Christian who has been attending church regularly for the past two years…” but you said, he “married a brit woman and converted and baptized for her“. What is the truth?
Admin,
Ur problem is u r focusing on Muslim men converting cases where as i said u there r many many cases where Muslim girls r converted and children r following hindu religion but u never bring this up which shows ur biasedness towards Muslim community. My reply is simple as far as men or women don’t complain or have problems let them follow any religion, u r focusing more in India but this is common in the west as well amongst the white Christians, so many white women married hindu according to hindu rituals only and follow hindu culture, if u r true believer of individual choice then u shouldn’t complain on the decision made by either partner as i said u we human accept and leave things for some favour/benefit we want to enjoy, here in India, political leaders change parties for their favour, we don’t criticize them so don’t criticize such decisions by women as well, there r cases where men converted to marry hindu/Muslim women, we should respect such decisions as far as no force or the couple aren’t complaining, this is what individual freedom of choice means and u as a progressive westerner should respect this
My views r simple, if a woman or man change certain things for their lover then it’s her problem not us like if i change for my hindu gf then it’s my problem, i did bcz i don’t want to lose her, so due to patriarchy, most common girls who ran away from parents home and who r not financially independent, usually get converted to husband culture bcz she has no other option as she lost her parents connection and she has to live within husband culture, only elite celebrities don’t change faith bcz they r financially dependent and also they want to show themselves progressive but they themselves don’t break this male surname patriarchy.
Yes, 2 hindu women married in my relatives, one is my sister in law brother and other is my maternal uncle. The former lives in my locality which is Muslim majority so she has to adjust to her husband religion and culture but we still respect her decision when she said “I’m ready to accept everything expect having beef, she run away from hee home so she has no connection with her parents, has been married for some 10yrs now and has 2 children, till now she doesn’t eat beef, her husband respect hee this not having beef decision, so all she did out of choice and we should respect her decision as she isn’t complaining and is happily married.
2nd hindu woman, married just recently, 4 months ago, before this Ramadan, she is my ‘Mami’ (wife of maternal uncle), my uncle lives in hindu majority area, hindu girl fell in love and my uncle took her in my home for having Nikah, as she too converted but this hindu lady is a educated one and is working in an NGO, so if she has no problem foe conversion and Marry my uncle, then why should we have, she’s now living with my uncle in hindu majority area and now recently, her parents accepted her decision and now things settled for her, my uncle is a non religious Muslim as he lives in hindu majority area, so he hardly follows Islam he’s just Muslim by birth, so now, she’s also living happily with my uncle, as nobody is objecting then why should we having any problems, as we respect a woman decision to marry outside religion/race/culture then we should respect her decision to accept her husband culture for whatever reasons she does unless she herself complains of any foul play or force conversion.
I’m progressive, a feminist but i see when women themselves don’t want to give up patriarchy then what we can do, almost all women here in India keel husband surname after marriage, give children husband surname but we don’t question such women for this so we shouldn’t question them for conversion or whatever she does willingly for her partners as far as she does it out of choice.
So u should also respect a woman decision to convert for her partner or husband’s conversion for wife.
Hope u understand what i wanted to say and u should be fair as i see u ignore wrong things of other religions in India and mostly criticize Muslim community and run ur own propaganda, there r many cases of Muslim girls conversion, we don’t cry and give it stupid term like Love Ji-ad.
One hindu girl who lives with us in Muslim locality, yes, doesn’t celebrate non Muslims festivals and the other who recently got married, livws in hindu majority area, i don’t know about her religious celebration but yes, she converted willingly and we should respect her decision as millions of people leave and accept religion for some personal peace and favors and as far as they r happy then we r no one to question them and call it any conspiracy like Love Ji+ad.
So admin, please be fair and unbiased. Thanks
Hi Asif, we are not focused only on Hindu-Muslim cases but all. We are not against religious conversion but against a “practice” of religious conversion for marriage. Why a Hindu wishes to marry a Muslim, MUST convert to Islam? Why a “Hindu” cannot marry (without conversion) a Muslim? Is that because Hindus are kaafir and non-believers?
We understand Koran 2:221 says Hindus status is less than a slave and must convert, but Koran 24:30 says not to get into romantic relationship to start with. If you are a true believer, why not follow 24:30 and not get into romantic relationship to start with.
Why your relative, who is not a practicing Muslim (“my uncle is a non religious Muslim”), still asked the Hindu girl friend to convert to Islam? Are you going to say he never asked for it but that Hindu voluntarily converted by her own wishes and desires? Are you saying that Hindu girl would have converted to Islam even she never met this your relative?
I wrote in book the marriage of Saif and Kareena is an admirable act. I am happy Kareena has a choice. Likewise, all other women in this world should have such liberty to decide for themselves.
Do you know any imam who will perform Nikaah without conversion? Don’t you think such mandated practice is wrong? That is what we are here to educate non-Muslims that know facts before getting in falling in love.
Harish Salve was in relationship with that brit white Christian woman for many yrs, he even divorced his Indian hindu woman for her(as polygamy is illegal in both hindu and Christian laws now) and he baptized and accepted Christianity just to marry her, they had English church marriage only not any hindu rituals marriage so he did convert for her. So Salve converted just to marry his brit white Christian lady who is much younger than Salve so we should respect such decisions if we believe in individuals choice
If church did not demand the conversion, probably Salve would have opted to remain who ever he was. Churches are powerful and are forcing couples to convert or sign a child-rearing prenuptial to raised children in Christian faith only. Luckily, we have seen this dirty trick is not working in USA, most times. Most couple, when realize the ugly truth about intolerance for non-Christians, decide to bypass the church.
Repeating, this mandated practice of religious conversion for marriage is wrong. Today’s interfaith couple should decide based on what they want, and not do thing to please pandit, imam or pastor. Our message is to bypass the irrational intolerant religious institutions. I hope you will agree to it.
yes,it’s about toxic patriarchy and bigoted tribalism..it’s all about denying women the freedom to choose their own spouse.Also,they would rather prefer women to suffer in a bad marriage than divorcing husband and choosing man of their choice and be happy.
We fully agree to “it’s about toxic patriarchy and bigoted tribalism.” We believe women should be given equal rights in the married life, including keeping her last name and children be given names from both faiths, not based on father’s culture alone.
Above, Asif said about patriarchy, “so as far as she or he has no problem we should not give it any conspiracy or propaganda term,” what is your views (women not complaining meaning all good)?
One question, when you said, “they would rather prefer women to suffer in a bad marriage..”, who “THEY” here? Are you talking about all faiths or it is an issue only in one faith? Please clarify.
Also Admin, i saw ur one claim (somewhere in this site) about Bollywood star ‘Aamir Khan’ saying “his wife may be hindu but his children will be raised as Muslim” lol as i said u, u r running propaganda and demeaning Muslim, Aamir Khan never ever said such thing, it was rumors and fake news circulated by hindu right wing of India, many reputed news channels debunked this claim and called it fake, so u should be vigilant as u r spreading fake news against a very famous celebrity of India (which he never said) so Admin please be vigilant and check things before making claim.
Aamir Khan never ever made any such statements
Thanks
women have the right to keep their last name and faith after marriage..we also have the right to change our last name after marriage if we wish to..important point here is that women r free to choose their husband and their lifestyle.
“THEY” means those who can’t stomach women making their free choices(irrespective of the faith)
Excellent point and we are fully with you.
How about the name of children? All Bollywood Khans are following patriarchal practice when comes to naming their children (including Saif Ali Khan; we hope there will be a Dharmic name after Taimur to show equality for Kareena).
Thank you for clarifying. We agree ALL faiths’ scriptures (some more) and old traditions are male-dominant, and it is time to speak out against it.
Asif, what do you think?
Oh man, again u r targeting only Muslim actors of Bollywood and saying khans give khans surname to children in interfaith lol not just khans even kapoors, Chopras, dutts and all. Man, now, i am very much convince u r an Islamophobic. Sorry to use such word but it’s fact, now, Yes, after Taimur controversy, Saif Kareena named ‘Jeh’ (a latin word) their 2nd son but i believe this is absolutely a sort of forced deeds by general public that forced them to name their 2nd child a name that doesn’t sound hindu or Muslim to avoid controversy. I hate this western or liberal way of “cancel culture” to force someone to do something lol. We talk about individual choice and can’t even name our children of our choice, i don’t believe in this bullshit tactics that if u r in interfaith marriage then u have to necessarily follow or do all things from both the religion even choosing names. Hrithik Roshan named both children hindu, Sunil dutt all children names r hindu even though Nargis was Muslim and she was buried instead of cremation so we can also find out the religion of interfaith couple through their funeral ritual like Sanjay Dutt following the religion of father why? Simply bcz of patriarchy so if some elite people follow patriarchy then why blame common people
No, i think we should check the religion of interfaith children in Bollywood who claim to be progressive and respect all religions that how their children will be having funeral as in such cases one can’t have both cremation and burial ritual at the same time, such children will have only one ritual so can we make a judgment of such interfaith children through their last funeral like say if Sanjay dutt or say Kunal khemmu daughter Inaya (which u say an Muslim sounding name) will either be buried or cremated so we can make out their religion through this final rituals
Lol u should answer me in this case
Look Islamophobic admin, again I’m saying u don’t be Islamophobic let the couple decide whether they want to convert or not what name they want to choose for their children let both of them decide, we have problem only when either of the couple complains of force or cheat or any unlawful deeds and we all know even conversion for marriage isn’t an unlawful activities in modern democracy including India.
So our Islamophobic admin, be fair and stop hating Muslim, i feel sorry to use such nasty words for u but u forced me bcz ur comments too showing ur Islamophobic behaviors.
Is jeh for Jehangir for Kareena’s son’s name? Is that a Hindu name?