H Kaur says: November 10, 2014 at 12:04 am
Waheguruji ka khalsa, waheguruji ki fateh,
I had a true love but the only thing that he is a muslim guy.. but he want to marry me and trying to convince me from last 13 years.
Finally he decided to get converted to sikhism. Please asvise what should i do now … how is it possible that he can adopt our religion -H Kaur
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Be mature..bcoz religon is nt everythng.bt many thngs effected by religon
Hi I’m sorry but I can across this on my university work, looking into religious problems. Now I am from England and I believe that no matter WHAT, that Munda will not change. He converted to Sikhism, does that mean oh sikh bangaya? No. Sikhi is in our blood, it is a way of life. The way you have been bought up and the values that you obtain are WORLDS apart from him and his ways. I can say that with full confidence there will be problems in the future. As quick as he converted to Sikhism, he can convert back to Islam.
So please have some Akaal and sharam…this is coming from a 19 year old aswell. So think if other people can see the wrong, why can’t you.
Lastly, Google ‘kaur to khan’….that’s what Islam teaches them.
Regards…
Simran,
What article are you pointing to?
We saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV43gMCB4KI , interesting? Is there other?
Dear readers,
Here is an example of child abuse in madaras, where victim has got no relief. Sodomy is a common practice in madarasas and only a very few cases are reported and 99% cases are not discussed due to insult and defame by the parents.
Lahore, Sabzazar police has not yet arrested the three accused who sodomized an 8-year-old eight days ago, police sources said on Wednesday.
Sources said that the victim Umer Shahzad, a resident of Shadiwal, studied at a local madrassa, Noor-ul-Furqan, located a few yards away from his house. Some eight days ago, second to the administrator of the aforementioned Madrasa, Qari Sadaqat, along with his two unidentified accomplices, took Umer Shahzad to an under construction house and sexually assaulted the minor boy. As a result, Umer was injured and shifted to the Children Hospital. Police has registered a case but they have not yet made any arrests. Umer’s brother, Ghulam Abbas, said Umer had told about the three men, after coming into his senses, over which they had requested the police too take stern action against the criminals. He said that in Umer’s case the accused were identified and were traceable but he could not understand why police was not arresting them.
Lahore, Sabzazar police has not yet arrested the three accused who sodomized an 8-year-old eight days ago, police sources said on Wednesday.
Sources said that the victim Umer Shahzad, a resident of Shadiwal, studied at a local madrassa, Noor-ul-Furqan, located a few yards away from his house. Some eight days ago, second to the administrator of the aforementioned Madrasa, Qari Sadaqat, along with his two unidentified accomplices, took Umer Shahzad to an under construction house and sexually assaulted the minor boy. As a result, Umer was injured and shifted to the Children Hospital. Police has registered a case but they have not yet made any arrests. Umer’s brother, Ghulam Abbas, said Umer had told about the three men, after coming into his senses, over which they had requested the police too take stern action against the criminals. He said that in Umer’s case the accused were identified and were traceable but he could not understand why police was not arresting them.
There is no morality in Islam. Every where criminal, hate, violence, bomb blasts, terrorist activities are promoted and inspired through evil book Koran.
Source:http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3158/islam-sodomy
In a recent article titled “Sodomy ‘For the sake of Islam’,” Raymond Ibrahim, an associate fellow at the Middle East Forum, reported that Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri, who plotted to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef in 2009 with a bomb hidden in his rectum, had apparently relied on a fatwa by an obscure cleric permitting sodomy to “widen” his anus to accommodate the explosives.
Benjamin Doherty of The Electronic Intifada website denounced the Ibrahim article, claiming that he fell for a vulgar hoax.
The Middle East Forum has looked both into this criticism and Mr. Ibrahim’s rebuttal. We find no evidence to substantiate the charges and, accordingly, the Forum stands by Mr Ibrahim.
Not only did the original “underwear bomber” Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri hide explosives in his rectum to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef—they met in 2009 after the 22-year-old holy warrior “feigned repentance for his jihadi views” — but al-Asiri apparently had fellow jihadis repeatedly sodomize him to “widen” his anus in order to accommodate the explosives— all in accordance with the fatwas [religious edicts] of Islamic clerics.
A 2010 Arabic news video that is making the rounds on the Internet gives the details. Apparently a cleric, one Abu al-Dema al-Qasab, informed jihadis of an “innovative and unprecedented way to execute martyrdom operations: place explosive capsules in your anus. However, to undertake this jihadi approach you must agree to be sodomized for a while to widen your anus so it can hold the explosives.”
Others inquired further by asking for formal fatwas. Citing his desire for “martyrdom and the virgins of paradise,” one jihadi, (possibly al-Asiri himself) asked another sheikh, “Is it permissible for me to let one of the jihadi brothers sodomize me to widen my anus if the intention is good?”
After praising Allah, the sheikh’s fatwa began by declaring that sodomy is forbidden in Islam,
However, jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it. For the overarching rule of [Islamic] jurisprudence asserts that “necessity makes permissible the prohibited.” And if obligatory matters can only be achieved by performing the prohibited, then it becomes obligatory to perform the prohibited, and there is no greater duty than jihad. After he sodomizes you, you must ask Allah for forgiveness and praise him all the more. And know that Allah will reward the jihadis on the Day of Resurrection, according to their intentions—and your intention, Allah willing, is for the victory of Islam, and we ask that Allah accept it of you.
Two important and complementary points emerge from this view: 1) that jihad is the “pinnacle” of Islam—for it makes Islam supreme (based on a hadith, the formerly oral history of the life of Muhammad); and 2) that “necessity makes permissible the prohibited.” These axioms are not limited to modern day fatwas, but in fact, were crystallized centuries and ago agreed to by the ulema [Islam’s leading religious scholars]. The result is that—because making Islam supreme through jihad is the greatest priority—anything and everything that is otherwise banned becomes permissible. All that comes to matter is one’s intention, or niyya.
From here one may understand the many ostensible incongruities of Islamic history: lying is forbidden—but permissible to empower Islam; intentionally killing women and children is forbidden—but permissible when performed during holy war, or jihad; suicide is forbidden—but also permissible during jihad, only then called “martyrdom.”
Indeed, the Five Pillars of Islam—including prayer and fasting—may be ignored during the jihad. So important is the duty of jihad that the Ottoman sultans—who often spent half their lives on the battlefield—were not permitted to perform the obligatory pilgrimage to Mecca.
More recently, these ideas appeared in a different form during Egypt’s elections, when Islamic leaders portrayed voting as a form of jihad and justified anything—including cheating, which was deemed “obligatory”—to empower Islam.
According to these two doctrines—which culminate in empowering Islam, no matter how—one may expect anything from would-be jihadis, regardless of how dubious the effort might seem to us.
to answer your bad intention about our great religion of islam. first islam teaches morality and being sincere. you can not rely on false hadiths or untrusted sites and interpret it on one of the freatest religions of the world. you are indonesian and the largest islamic populated country. you must have known that indonesia adopted islam without any war or violance but rather due to the very high morality that our prophet Muhammed peace be upon him has taught. He taught us to be sincere, humble, good to each other, be kind to every human beings regardless of their religion, be kind to animals, pray to ony one god and he said that he is a slave of God. what you said bad about him is refered by in false hadiths and not in Koran and not correct at all. May Allah guide you to the right path where islam is the only religion on earth that its followers does not worship its founder.
great religion????
is that why they are killing their own and everyone from other religions , raping, murdering, inflicting pain on their fellow human beings devoid of all compassion, lying constantly deceiving to propagate their agenda in every country, forcefully converting others?
WAKE UP!
The problem is you are all in denial, from the age of 5yrs you are taken to mosques to be brainwashed, the result is you have no choice of having an open mind and looking and embracing and accepting that there are other religions as well.
Dear readers,
Myself Rijvana 36 yrs old, originally from Indonesia, married with a Hindu Tamil engineer and settled in Coimbatore. I have read thoroughly Koran and Hadith. Both are criminal and evil narrations towards humanity and female community. It is good for terrorists and males to enjoy all sorts of freedom and put female under restrictions, just for sex purpose only. It is because of Mohammad who was terrorist, murderer, and rapist. He did not spare 9 yrs. old child and his son,s wife to rape in the name of marriage.
It is quite clear that Muhammad was attracted to Zainab before Zaid divorced her and it might well have been the true reason for the divorce itself. There are Muslim traditions which indicate this, but the Qur’an verse itself does make clear that there was something going on before Zaid’s divorce from Zainab. In any case, this marriage with Zainab, wife of his adopted son seemingly caused quite a scandal in the Muslim community as this was looked upon as incest [the wife of the son]. Therefore it was necessary that a revelation will exhonorate Muhammad for his action. What better step can be taken than declaring that this was a step of obedience to Allah’s will and command? Who wants to question Allah’s command?
But there is more in this strange story. That this action is immoral and this revelation / justification of it self-serving and not fitting for a true word of God is an important aspect, but not a contradiction within the Qur’an – even though contradicting the true character of God, who is moral purity.
In this verse in Sura 33:37 there is stated a particular purpose for this revelation and action of Muhammad. It is not for himself, but it is for the future of the Muslim community. It is so that in future there may not be a problem if anybody wants to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son. And that is the logical difficulty: Adoption is forbidden in Islam ([1, 2]). This prohibition is based for example on these two verses from the same sura:
Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way. Call them by (the names of) their fathers: that is juster in the sight of Allah. But if ye know not their father’s (names, call them) your Brothers in faith, or your maulas. But there is no blame on you if ye make a mistake therein: (what counts is) the intention of your hearts: and Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
— Sura 33:4-5
Without adoption there cannot be any adopted son either. And so the explicitely stated reason for the revelation of this verse does not even exist. Muhammad himself dissolved the original adoption of Zaid when the above revelation came.
To summarize, the logical difficulty is that Allah(?) causes a scandal and then sends Gabriel to officially justify the action with a revelation and the express purpose for this revelation is “so that there will be no problem in future” with a situation that is not even possible under Islam. Those who are Muslims and are obedient to the Qur’an will not have adopted sons.
This logical problem is a further indication that this revelation was really not from God, but from Muhammad who wanted to justify his action before the community. It was not for the future (even though that certainly sounded better) but it was to calm down the emotional upheaval and resulting doubts about his integrity because of this action which was considered indecent.
ha ha ha i think you copied it from here http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/qi033.html nice, you are expert in copy pasting
So whats wrong in copying pasting. Unless you can prove what he/she said is wrong…You are typical muslim fundamentalist sympathizer. I have noticed that you should on top of your voice when you see people expose what muslims do. But you remain silent on national and international issues of what muslims really do to hindus/christians/sikhs. For example :- Your Muslim leader Assaduddin owaisi calling to kill all hindus, ISIS – Muslim terrorist ( they use quran for their justification of voilence) Kidnapp non muslim girls, Then rape them, then convert them, then sell them or marry them to muslims. This happens in India too- Goes unreported. Chrisitan girls in kerela are converted to muslim and Chritian fathers hands are cut when he protests. Assamees/North Easterns Indians are Killed by muslims like you who blame them for riots in NE. etc etc, list goes on.
You are sympathizer and turn blind eye for it. Simply because you are a true muslim, other muslims are your brothers and sisters. I dont need your justification now, i know all you would do it point finger at me, and ask stupid question on my question.
Hi Rishita,
Glad to see your text and very bold decision taken by you. Now you need not to wear burqa,no sense of insecurity from oral tripple talak words, no restriction on movement or doing job, no halala, etc.
May almighty bless you always.
Hello readers,
The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam’s image and make it more attractive to prospective converts. They carefully try to avoid, obscure, and omit mentioning any of the negative Islamic texts and teachings.
An example of Islamic deception is that Muslim activists always quote the passages of the Quran from the early part of Mohammed’s ministry while living in Mecca. These texts are peaceful and exemplify tolerance towards those that are not followers of Islam. All the while, they are fully aware that most of these passages were abrogated (cancelled and replaced) by passages that came after he migrated to Medina. The replacement verses reflect prejudice, intolerance, and endorse violence upon unbelievers
In conclusion, it is imperative to understand, that Muslim leaders can use this loop-hole in their religion, to absolve them from any permanent commitment. It is also important to know that what Muslim activists say to spread Islam may not always be the whole truth. When dealing with Muslims, what they say is not the issue. The real issue is, what they actually mean in their hearts.
So H.Kaur, be cautious, not to believe what is promised to you.
He will not take time to change colors.
your well wisher
LOL, 🙂 another islamic scholar, ha ha ha, no where does quran claims that it cancels previous verse, neither do any hadith or muhammad pbuh saying tells us to cancel(abrogate) previous verse, quran is the word of god frm first to last. Its a made up thing by islamophobes like Robert Spencer to fit his justification of islam. Poor robert, he keeps lying,spreading against islam where as islam is the fastest growing religion is USA frm where he spreads his evil,hatred thoughts. Each year approx. 20,000 people converts to islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfx4glTU5JQ , keep spreading lies, bt truth i.e. Islam will also keep spreading in frnt of your eyes. You people can only lie as you don’t have truth.
Islam does not acknowledge the equality of all humans. There are three types of people : men, women and infidels.
Women are worth half a Muslim man. As proof, the Quran states that a woman may only receive half the inheritance due to a man, and her testimony in court is worth that of half a man. She may not hold most jobs, even in “liberal” Islamic countries. In Iran, the worth of a man’s life is equal to the market value of 100 camels or 200 cows and that of a woman is equal to half of the man’s, 50 camels or 100 cows. Women cannot vote.
Non-Muslims are worth nothing. A Muslim man may commit any crime against a non-Muslim with impunity, even murder.
Here are some of the verses that deal with these questions :
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means: For Allah is Most High, great.” Quran 004.034
“And say to the believing women that they should (…) not display their beauty and ornaments except what appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex” Quran 024.031 (this verse is typically used to justify the ignominious enforcement of the hijab)
“Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women” Quran 002.282
“Allah directs you as regards your Children’s [inheritance]: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half.” Quran 004.011
Believers in Allah are the best people in the world : “Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.” Quran 003.110
“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him;” Quran 003.085
“O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.” Quran 009.023
“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Quran 009.029 (Jizya : tribute)
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;” Quran 005.033
“They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks;” Quran 004.089
There is no such thing as separation of the church and state, or between the state and morality, in Islam. The church IS the state IS morality.
This is the politics of the “religion of peace”.
Islamic law – the Sharia (also spelled Shari’ah) – is based on the prevention of heresy and crime by killing independent thought. Here are a number of barbaric practices enforced by Islamic law, apart from those already discussed in the Quran verses above :
Adulterous couples are stoned to death, prostitutes are hanged in public, and women in the company of men who are not blood relatives are executed.
Rape victims are punished.
“Zina laws” prohibit adultery, prostitution, and rape. Punishment is execution or amputation of the hands. This is done to the victims as well.
Women cannot vote or get elected.
Husbands can beat up their wives at their heart’s content.
Women cannot do anything outside of the house without the father or husband’s consent.
Women cannot get custody of their children.
Women are banned from a number of fields of education.
Women must wear the hijab when outside of the house.
In more extremist countries like Iran, a woman arrested for wearing make-up is forced to clean up with cotton balls rolled in broken glass.
I would not trust him he wont convert teo Sikhism he lieing to you
Dear Kaur,
You appear very innocent and could not assess his real mentality.
Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.
Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.
Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.
Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.
Dont do that my sister.. Ignore him as much as possibel
And for sake of waheguru dont even think about
Marying a muslim or any other cast rather than
Sikh.. Plzzzz don’t do that..
This is the worst thing a sikh girl can do
Just love ur religion and u will get better boys
Than him .. I bet u on this.. Dont do that plzz .
Shiks only for sikhism., plzz
Get over this.
Do what your heart says…..sign a pre-up agreement stating that your children can choose either of the religions.I am not a sikh but buddhist. Believe me….it works….sign a pre-marital agreement….if he has a problem….find someone else….However of all the religions Islam is a very rigid,stern and differently ambiguous religion.many of the practices do not concur with hinduism,christianity,sikhism and other religions alike….see if thye person is broad minded
Hi Kaur,
You are mistaken. He will never accept to convert. He will play all tricks to trap you. Be aware of him.
H. Kaur,
It is very rare that a Muslim could adapt Sikhism. If he is talking, take him to Gurudwara and start teaching him about Sikhism. Find out his comfort level. Also go talk to his parents for his intention, because after marriage under pressure from parents, he may change. What is the guaranty that after marriage he will not turn out like Nusrat‘s husband? Let us know how it goes. Best wishes.