Sabina says: August 29, 2013 at 12:35 am
Zara,
What education thought to me was every religion is equal. So I’m as an Indian free to marry anyone, as long as my parents and I love that person. And people like you who support osama’s thinking spread hate for non Muslims, when they don’t hate us. I m not hating Qur’an, you just decided on your own.
I am surprised to see instead of supporting correct things for Muslim women you choose to support narrow minded Muslim thinking, none of my non Muslim friends thinks like you or Osama do? I doubt if you are even a girl. I don’t identified as a Muslim girl or Hindu girl, religion is guidance for human, not a step by step guide. I follow what is in favor of all others too, if we follow just Islam strictly there would be no peace, where is democracy then, country cannot run like this, every religion will then practice there religions practice strictly, which is recipe for war.
you are not open minded and secular thinking. Marriage is between two people of any religion, people like you have made it difficult for Muslims girls who are killed or burned, because parents have your type of thinking. Ultimately that Muslim girl is killed because of your thoughts, you are responsible for this killing and hatred, Allah never wanted that. I believe all gods are equal, my father tells me how young guys are being fought extreme version of Qur’an. I m proud that my father is not a like other Muslims. -Sabina
Sabina says:
August 29, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Zara, I have reviewed all off your writings, you are not a female. You are brainwashed. You do not represent secular thinking of Islam. I m guessing you just evil minded khala who always thinks evil for others, I had phuphu just like yours. You must not even be with a job, that’s why you think other religion are bad. You are giving bad name to Islam. No one can correct you now, I pity your thinking, you will always be sad, frustrated and looser all your life, that’s why you don’t even have a life partner, may be you have a husband but he doesn’t love you.
Allah give you good sirat, I m shia and I m proud to be not Sunni narrow minded like you. -Sabina
Sabina says: August 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Love see no religion, no matter how much you suppress Muslim girls, by way of quranic verses or giving “gyan” every Muslim girl is allowed to marry any guy of her choice, be it a Christian, Hindu whatever…you folks are such a hypocrite. Why are you superimposing your views on other Muslims, whatever you wrote, do you think only you know. You Sunnis are like this…spreading hate, singling out Muslims, and against love. -Sabina
Rabiya says: August 2, 2015 at 9:19 am
Omg!
Sunni-narrow minded, really? -.-
but still I’M PROUD NOT TO BE SHIA
even i am educated and agrees what osama said 🙂 -Rabiya
ahmad noor says: August 3, 2015 at 12:05 am
That is true that shia are not true muslims …i am telling you so in order not to consider (you and all hindu friends) what all crimes done in mid-east (in iran _iraq_syria_ yemen_lebanon_ bahrain)..to be considered as an islamic activities …here i am telling you ..to make every things …clear.
By the way all Indian governments have a spacial good relation with Iran. Looks like the realized that the Shia Islam …is a good ally against Sunni Islam (the majority) -Ahmad
Shis-Sunni history
Wikipedia: Sunni and Shia Islam are the two major denominations of Islam. The demographic breakdown between the two denominations is difficult to assess and varies by source, but a good approximation is that 85–90% of the world’s Muslims are Sunni[1] and 10-15% are Shia,[2][3] with most Shias belonging to the Twelver tradition and the rest divided between many other groups.[2] Sunnis are a majority in most Muslim communities: in Southeast Asia, China, South Asia, Africa, and most of the Arab world. Shia make up the majority of the citizen population in Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, and Bahrain, as well as being a politically significant minority in Lebanon. Azerbaijan is predominantly Shia; however, practicing adherents are much fewer.[4] Indonesia has the largest number of Sunni Muslims, while Iran has the largest number of Shia Muslims (Twelver) in the world. Pakistan has the second-largest Sunni as well as the second-largest Shia Muslim (Twelver) population in the world.
The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world, which led to the Battle of Siffin. The dispute intensified greatly after the Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I, and the outcry for revenge divided the early Islamic community. Today, there are differences in religious practice, traditions, and customs, often related to jurisprudence. Although all Muslim groups consider the Quran to be divine, Sunni and Shia have different opinions on hadith.
Over the years, Sunni–Shia relations have been marked by both cooperation and conflict. Sectarian violence persists to this day from Pakistan to Yemen and is a major element of friction throughout the Middle East.[5][6] Tensions between communities have intensified during power struggles, such as the Bahraini uprising, the Iraq War, and most recently the Syrian Civil War[7][8][9] and in the formation of the self-styled Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and its advancement on Syria and Northern Iraq.
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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria extremists lined up and shot dead at least 50 Iraqi men, women and children from the same tribe on Sunday, officials said, in the latest targeting of the group by militants.
The killings, all committed in public, raise the death toll suffered by the Sunni Al Bu Nimr tribe in recent days to some 150, suggesting Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters now view them as a threat. Some Sunnis in the volatile province had previously supported the local expansion of ISIS and other militants in December.
Earlier this week, Human Rights Watch reported that ISIS executed 600 Iraqi prison inmates when they seized the country’s second-largest city of Mosul in June.
On Friday, the Security Council issued a statement expressing “deep outrage” at the ISIS killings, kidnapping, rapes and torture in Iraq, saying the group’s actions “may constitute war crimes and crimes against humanity
Sunday’s attack on the Sunni tribe took place in the village of Ras al-Maa, north of Ramadi, the provincial capital. There, the militant group killed at least 40 men, six women and four children, lining them up and shooting them one by one, senior tribesman Sheikh Naim al-Gaoud told The Associated Press. The militants also kidnapped another 17 people, he said.
An official with the Anbar governor’s office corroborated the tribesman’s account. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to brief journalists.
Late Friday, ISIS fighters killed 50 members of the tribe, a day after killing 48 of them, according to various officials who have spoken to the AP.
ISIS militants have overrun a large part of Anbar province in a push to expand their territory across Iraq and Syria. Officials with the Iraqi government, as well as officials with the U.S.-led coalition targeting the extremists, repeatedly have said that Iraqi tribes are key elements in the fight against ISIS since they are able to penetrate areas inaccessible to airstrikes and ground forces.
In Syria, U.S. attack, fighter and bomber aircraft again focused on the Kobani area with five strikes that hit five small ISIS units. Two strikes southeast of Dayr Az Zawr also destroyed an ISIS tank and vehicle shelters, Central Command said.
U.S. and partner nations hit small Islamic State units near the Iraqi cities of Bayji and Fallujah.
Some Sunnis in Anbar supported the militants when they seized Fallujah and parts of Ramadi in December. That came after widespread Sunnis protests against the Shiite-led government in Baghdad for what they described as second-class treatment.
Since ISIS’ major offensive in Iraq, a number of Iraq’s Sunni tribes have been fundamental in stalling its advance, taking up arms and fighting alongside Iraqi security forces.
Ramadi has yet to fall in part because of key Sunni tribes in the city. The Jughaifi and al-Bunimer tribes have helped Iraqi special forces protect the Haditha Dam in Anbar. In the battleground town of Dhuluiyah, the al-Jabbouri tribe has been the sole resistance to an ISIS militant takeover.
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and his new government have vowed to create a community-driven national guard that would empower local tribes. Other tribes have not been won over, and have allied themselves with the militant group as a means for contesting the Shiite-led government.
In the vast province of Anbar, some 5,000 tribesmen are backing government efforts to take part in the fight and receive arms and financial compensation. With tribes often numbering 30,000 to 40,000 people, the effort still has a long way to go, however.
Elsewhere Sunday, a car bomb attack near tents serving Shiite pilgrims killed 14 people and wounded 32 in Baghdad, police and medical officials said. They said the bombing in Baghdad’s Bayaa district struck as people delivered food to pilgrims heading to the holy city of Karbala to mark the religious holiday of Ashoura.
At night, a car bomb went off near tents serving Shiite pilgrims in downtown Baghdad, killing nine and wounding 20 others, said police.
Ashoura commemorates the seventh-century death of Imam Hussein, a grandson of Prophet Muhammad, and an iconic martyr among Shiite Muslims. Sunni insurgents frequently target Shiites who they consider heretics.
Also, authorities said a roadside bomb targeting an army patrol killed two soldiers and wounded four in Baghdad’s western suburb of Abu Ghraib. In eastern Baghdad, police said a bomb in a commercial street in the al-Ameen district killed three people and wounded four.
Hospital officials confirmed the casualty figures from the attacks. All officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to journalists.
During its onslaught, ISIS fighters destroyed a number of ancient religious sites across the country that they claim promotes apostasy. Iraqi officials have said that the militants have also snatched artifacts from some sites, selling them on the international black market to finance their operations.
On a visit to Baghdad Sunday, the director-general of the United Nations’ cultural agency UNESCO, Irina Bokova, appealed for swift action to protect and preserve Iraq’s archaeological and heritage sites that have fallen victim to the ongoing conflict.
“We cannot agree that this treasure, that this legacy for human civilization is being destroyed in a most barbaric manner,” she told reporters during her one-day visit. “We have to act.”
Dear readers,
Iwould like to briefly highlight the differences between 3 sects of muslim
like Shia, Sunni and Wahabi.
One may observe generally that the Sunnis and the Shiites are the two major groups among Muslims. But most Sunni and Shiite believers recognize each other as genuine Muslims (except for a few deviant sects).
Both the Sunni and Shiite followers believe in Allah Almighty, in Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and in the Day of Judgment as exemplified in the Quran in the verse that means:
{The Messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers; they all believe in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers; We make no difference between any of His messengers; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Your forgiveness (do we crave), and to you is the eventual course.} (Al-Baqarah 2:285)
In fact, the division between Sunnis and Shiites happened immediately after the death of Prophet Muhammad. The question arose at the time as to who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation.
Sunni Muslims held the view, along with most of the Prophet’s Companions, that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job. And Prophet Muhammad’s close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, was chosen the first Caliph of the Islamic nation.
But there was a group of Muslims who held the view that the leadership of the community should have gone to a member of the Prophet’s own family, or to some one specifically appointed by him, or to an Imam appointed by God Himself.
These people further argued that the Prophet’s son-in-law Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) should have been elected leader. The word “Shiite” comes from the expression, ‘Shiat Ali’ or ‘the Party of Ali’. From this initial question of political leadership, some aspects of spiritual life have been affected, and hence the differences between the two groups of Muslims.
An overwhelming majority (85%) of Muslims today are Sunni and the rest Shiite. Despite the differences, most Muslims — whether Sunni or Shiite — share the main articles of Islamic belief, read the same Quran, turn to the same Kabah for prayer, and prefer to call themselves, “Muslims”.
The famous scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi has written:
“It is important for the Sunnis to concentrate on the points of agreement, not difference, when having dialogues with the Shiites, especially that the points of agreement are on the fundamental issues of religion, while the points of difference have to do with the minor ones…
The most important point to be taken into account is that there is a great deal of agreement between the Sunni jurisprudence and the Shiite one. This is because both depend on the same sources, the Quran and the Sunnah, and also because their aims in conducting research on religion are similar, that is, establishing Allah’s justice and mercy among people.” (Sunnis & Shiites: Overlooking Differences, last accessed March 9, 2009)
On Wahhabism, one western journalist wrote:
“..it also became apparent that the spread of Wahabism, whose most famous adherent is Osama bin Laden, should be taken seriously.”
And in the next paragraph we read this:
“Even many Muslims consider Wahabism an extremist sect, but its followers — who include Saudi Arabia’s ruling House of Saud – insist they are simply practicing the “true” Islam. Wahabism gained a foothold in the Muslim world in the aftermath of the Iranian Revolution in 1979, as the Saudis, tacitly encouraged by the United States and its allies, used their enormous financial resources to ensure that radical Shia Islam did not spread to the Sunni Muslim world..” (Carole O’Leary, Extremists in a Moderate Land, Washington Post, Sunday, August 11, 2002, last accessed March 9, 2009)
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab of the nineteenth century, was a reformer who focused on tawheed (monotheism) and fought the polytheistic practices that had somehow returned to his people, such as praying to saints, making sacrificial offerings to holy persons etc. His students began to refer to themselves as muwahhidun (unitarians), while his critics called them “Wahhabis” — with a bad connotation.
We can see that what is called ‘Wahhabism’ was a genuinely Islamic movement that was named after Ibn Abdul Wahhab who initiated a reform movement in Arabia to retain the pure and original form of Islam against several innovations introduced by the so-called Sufis at that time.
He upheld the ideas of the two notable Islamic figures, Sheikh Ibn Taymiyah and his disciple, Ibn Al-Qayyim, and followed the juristic opinions of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, in creedal as well as juristic matters. And his movement did make significant contributions to Islam at that time, by removing a lot of deviant and decadent practices that had crept into the Muslim society.
As a result of his work, former heresies, innovations, and evil practices disappeared from among the Muslims of Arabia. For instance, he chopped down the trees that people used to worship and pray to in Najd. They used to ask those trees things that only Allah Almighty is capable of giving.
Ibn Abdul Wahhab also demolished the domes that people took as temples for pagan rituals. But self-appointed advocates of innovations sowed seeds of hatred against him and his followers, who actually adhered to the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of his Messenger Muhammad.
Hi readers,
Mac and his associates like Noor, Akash Mallick, Pakhi are placing false and fabricated texts on this site. He is an associate of all terrorist organizations like ISIS, Boko Haram, Hizbolla, Alquaida and attempts to glorify misdeeds of rapist Mohammad.
How could a criminal who drugged women and then raped their passed out limp bodies ever be a prophet of God.
But what of Muhammad who was a rapist par excellence He raped 261 women and a child. He didn’t use drugs but force and imitation. ALL sex between a master and his sex slaves is rape. ALL sex between a man and a child is rape. ALL sex between a husband and his wife which is non consensual is rape.
Muhammad was according to God total Moral Perfection How do we know this.. Because God tells us thru Angel Gabriel that Muhammad was perfect. The perfection of perfection
In fact, the Quran, the holy book of Islam, does claim that Muhammad was the most perfect human being ever created who must be emulated and obeyed.:
“Ye have indeed in the Apostle of God a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God.” (Quran 33:21)
“Say (O Muhammad to mankind): ‘If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’ Say (O Muhammad): ‘Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad).’ But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers.” (Quran: 3:31)
“And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, leave it. And fear Allah: truly Allah is severe in punishment. (Quran 59:7)
“And verily, you (O Muhammad SAW) are on an exalted standard of character.”(Quran 68:4)
God Almighty says, “And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds.” (Al-Anbiya’ 21:107).
Muhammad – God tells us was an exalted standard of character.”, “a beautiful pattern (of conduct)” to be emulated by all men for all time.
The most important duty of a man is the care and protection of the young. A child is the very essence of Moral Perfection. To take a child and sexually molest the child is evil. The crimes Muhammad committed against this poor defenseless child are horrific. He ruined her life for his own sexual gratification. Being raped at 9, he damaged the child so she could never have children and when Muhammad died – he forbade her at 18 (and all his wives) to never remarry. For the great crimes Muhammad committed against Aisha and his wives: http://www.godofmoralperfection.com/new-page-42.htm
Since girls at that age are not fully mature either physically, emotionally, or psychologically, we know that it is wrong for a man, regardless of his age, to engage a child in sexual relations. No other conclusion can be drawn. No one would expect a real prophet of a righteous God to engage in, justify, allow, and prescribe for his followers such a malignant act.
Muhammad established an appalling precedent for Islam, Muslims, and young girls. This was not based upon wisdom, knowledge, or science, but only upon his desires, actions, and teachings. He should be judged as a man who established child abuse as a norm in Islam.
The prime duty of mankind is to raise the children in a safe environment and properly care and educate them, so that they can progress into responsible adults. Sexual exploitation of children is a horrible crime, which totally destroy their self-esteem, and mentally condemn them to a life of psychological torment. Their innocence thus spoiled, they become part of the living dead.
Prophet Muhammad,sexually abused and molested a child, namely Aisha. Muhammad, aged 51, married Aisha, aged 6, and had sex with her when she turned 9. But sexual abuse started immediately after the marriage at six, as Muhammad used to do thighing with Aisha until she became capable of sustaining penetration. All acts of sexual gratifications and penetration by an adult man with a child, whether 6 or 9, are sexual abuse and rape of the child.
Hi,
Qur’an-Allah-“Best Deceiver”
The Qur’an openly states many times that Allah is the “best deceiver”. All literal translations are referenced from islamicnature.com, a pro-Islamic Muslim website.
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
Transliteration: Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena
Literal: And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.
Qur’an Text/Transliteration 3:54
Arabic: افامنوا مكر الله فلايامن مكر الله الا القوم الخاسرون
Transliteration: Afaaminoo makra Allahi fala ya/manu makra Allahi illa alqawmu alkhasiroona
Literal: Did they secure God’s scheme/deceit ? So no(one) trusts God’s scheme/deceit except the nation the losers.
Qur’an Text/Transliteration 7:99
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين
Transliteration: Wa-ith yamkuru bika allatheena kafaroo liyuthbitooka aw yaqtulooka aw yukhrijooka wayamkuroona wayamkuru Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena
Literal: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and God deceives/schemes and God (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.
Qur’an Text/Transliteration 8:30
Arabic: واذا اذقنا الناس رحمة من بعد ضراء مستهم اذا لهم مكر في اياتنا قل الله اسرع مكرا ان رسلنا يكتبون ماتمكرون
Transliteration: Wa-itha athaqna alnnasa rahmatan min baAAdi darraa massat-hum itha lahum makrun fee ayatina quli Allahu asraAAu makran inna rusulana yaktuboona ma tamkuroona
Literal: And if We made the people taste/experience mercy from after calamity/disastrous distress touched them, then for them (is) cheatery/deceit/schemes in Our verses/evidences . Say: “God (is) quicker/faster (in) cunning/scheming , that Our messengers write what you cheat/ deceive/scheme.”
Qur’an Text/Transliteration 10:21
Arabic: وقد مكر الذين من قبلهم فلله المكر جميعا يعلم ماتكسب كل نفس وسيعلم الكفار لمن عقبى الدار
Transliteration: Waqad makara allatheena min qablihim falillahi almakru jameeAAan yaAAlamu ma taksibu kullu nafsin wasayaAAlamu alkuffaru liman AAuqba alddari
Literal: And those from before them had cheated/deceived/schemed, so to God (is) all the cheatery/deceit/scheme. He knows what every self gains/acquires , and the disbelievers will know to whom (is) the house’s/home’s end/turn (result).
Qur’an Text/Transliteration 13:42
Created Christianity Through Deception
That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Qur’an 4:157-158
Deceived Muslims
Remember in thy dream Allah showed them to thee as few: if He had shown them to thee as many, ye would surely have been discouraged, and ye would surely have disputed in (your) decision; but Allah saved (you): for He knoweth well the (secrets) of (all) hearts. And remember when ye met, He showed them to you as few in your eyes, and He made you appear as contemptible in their eyes: that Allah might accomplish a matter already enacted. For to Allah do all questions go back (for decision).
Qur’an 8:43-44
Breaking Oaths
The Qur’an tells us that Allah will not call Muslims to account for what is “futile in their oaths”, and deliberately breaking oaths is not much of a problem because they will be forgiven if they fast for three days.
Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.
Qur’an 2:225
Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.
Qur’an 5:89
Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.
Qur’an 66:2
Taqiyya
The following Qur’anic verses form the basis of the mainly Shi’ite doctrine of taqiyya, although, as you will see in the section on Sunni scholars, it is not limited to the Shi’ite sect.
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
Qur’an 3:28
Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty..
Qur’an 16:106
Hadith
Sahih Bukhari
Narrated Abdullah bin Umar: Two men came from the East and addressed the people who wondered at their eloquent speeches. On that Allah’s Apostle said ‘Some eloquent speech is as effective as magic.’
Sahih Bukhari 7:71:662
Narrated Sahl bin Sad As-Sa’idi: …Allah’s Apostle said, “A man may seem to the people as if he were practising the deeds of the people of Paradise while in fact he is from the people of the Hell) Fire, another may seem to the people as if he were practicing the deeds of the people of Hell (Fire), while in fact he is from the people of Paradise.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:147
Narrated Al-Bara: When the Prophet intended to perform the ‘Umra he sent a person to the people of Mecca asking their permission to enter Mecca. They stipulated that he would not stay for more than three days and would not enter it except with sheathed arms and would not preach (Islam) to any of them. So Ali bin Abi-Talib started writing the treaty between them. He wrote, “This is what Muhammad, Apostle of Allah has agreed to.” The (Meccans) said, “If we knew that you (Muhammad) are the Apostle of Allah, then we would not have prevented you and would have followed you. But write, ‘This is what Muhammad bin ‘Abdullah has agreed to..’ ” On that Allah’s Apostle said, “By Allah, I am Muhammad bin ‘Abdullah, and, by Allah, I am Apostle of ‘Allah.” Allah’s Apostle used not to write; so he asked ‘Ali to erase the expression of Apostle of Allah. On that ‘Ali said, “By Allah I will never erase it.” Allah’s Apostle said (to ‘Ali), “Let me see the paper.” When ‘Ali showed him the paper, the Prophet erased the expression with his own hand. When Allah’s Apostle had entered Mecca and three days had elapsed, the Meccans came to ‘Ali and said, “Let your friend (i.e. the Prophet) quit Mecca.” Ali informed Allah’s Apostle about it and Allah’s Apostle said, “Yes,” and then he departed.
Sahih Bukhari 4:53:408
Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba: That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”
Sahih Bukhari 3:49:857
Breaking Oaths
In Sahih Bukhari we find narrations telling us Prophet Muhammad had said if he took an oath and later found something else better, he would do “what is better” and expiate his oath.
Narrated Zahdam:
We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), “Come on (and eat), for I have seen Allah’s Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken).” He said, “I have seen it eating something (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it ‘ Abu Musa said, “Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah s Apostle with a group of Al-Ash’ariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked for mounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, ‘I have nothing to mount you on’ In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allah’s Apostle and he asked twice, ‘Where are Al-Ash’ariyin?” So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for a short while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, “Allah’s Apostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allah’s Apostle of his oath, we will never be successful.” So we returned to the Prophet and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We asked you for mounts, but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten your oath.’ He said, ‘It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’ ”
Sahih Bukhari 7:67:427
Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman bin Samura:
The Prophet said, “O ‘Abdur-Rahman! Do not seek to be a ruler, for if you are given authority on your demand then you will be held responsible for it, but if you are given it without asking (for it), then you will be helped (by Allah) in it. If you ever take an oath to do something and later on you find that something else is better, then you should expiate your oath and do what is better.”
Sahih Bukhari 9:89:260
Admn.
Not known why you have soft corner for Mac. Had the facts been not correct, he would have boiled up many times. Several times he has used words like Idot to you also. He is quoting the text of Shia as Gang of Chand osmani, Aarfa etc.
Those who live in asian countries realize the torture,criminal and cruel activiies of sunni terrorists. Regarding credibility it does not depend on manipulation, fabricating baseless texts against other writers by Mac and his associates.
You will be lots more effective if you stick to facts (or close to it). Stay on course, please.
Hi Shia,
Very informative texts posted exposing the criminalities of Sunni terrorists.
Had such behaviour and treatment been experienced by the female members of Mac, Noor, Haque, Pakhi etc., they would have realized the agony they had to pass through.
Mac will not accept the cruelties even though he himself suffered sexual abuse in his childhood in Madarsa.
Golnar,
Why are you loosing your credibility by making such false accusation (Mac will not accept the cruelties even though he himself suffered sexual abuse in his childhood in Madarsa.). Prove it!
This only shows that your are a short tempered intolerant person. It does not damage mac credibility, actually people will be more sympathetic to him because of people like you, is that your intention? This is shame that you keep doing this, really shameful.
LOL 🙂
Now the gang of Chand Osmani, Human, Massey, Kartar, Shagul, Aarfa comes in new name called `shia` hahahaha
Agree!
Interesting the web site is always yahoo.com.
Who ever that person is,
Please pick one name for you and stick with it. You loose your credibility by using multiple names but the same message (and cut and paste).
Dear readrs,
There is one more example of cruelties of sunni terrorists as under:-
Women captured as sex slaves by the Isis militant group are sold at markets for “as little as a packet of cigarettes”, according to the UN.
Zainab Bangura, the UN envoy on sexual violence, said she had been to Syria and Iraq in recent months and found a war “being fought on the bodies of women”.
Ms Bangura has previously spoken out about the horrific treatment of women captured by the Isis regime, stripped naked and shipped around the territories it controls “like cattle”.
And speaking on Monday, she said: “This is how they attract young men: we have women waiting for you, virgins that you can marry.”
Dear readers,
The Isis militant group has executed 19 women in its Iraqi stronghold of Mosul for refusing to have sex with fighters, a Kurdish official has claimed.
Said Mimousini, a spokesperson for the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), said that Isis’s treatment of women and dealings with money were proving to be increasingly divisive within the organisation’s own ranks.
The official said that the executions, which could not be independently verified, took place during the weekend of the 1 and 2 August.
“Isis [has] executed 19 women in the city of Mosul during the past two days,” he told Iraqi News on Monday. “The penalty decision came on the background of the refusal to participate in the practice of sexual jihad.”
Mimousini’s claims come just days after a UN official said she had witnessed the circulation of a child slave “price list” among Isis fighters in Syria and Iraq.
Hello readers,
How sunni muslims are cruel against children will be evident from the following texts.
Pakistan has been rocked by a child sexual abuse scandal after 400 videos of more than 280 children being sexually abused in a village in Pakistani Punjab were discovered. The incident has prompted experts to ask for a federal enquiry, according to a media report.
According to the Pakistani daily The Nation, most of the victims were under 14 and included a 6-year-old boy and a 10-year-old schoolgirl who was filmed being molested by a 14-year-old boy.
Apparently, a gang of 25 young men with a maulvi allegedly arranged the abuse then used the videos to harass the children and their families. The family allegedly handed over millions of rupees and some of the children even stole gold ornaments from their parents to placate the abusers.
Admin, the above chart is wrong, islam don`t have any such division, it is among muslim community, they have two sect one is shia, and those who don`t believe in shia ways are known as sunni. Ahmediyas,Sufis,etc all are under sunni. Shias believe leader should be from lineage of prophet muhammad pbuh while sunnis believe any person can be leader, it is not necessary that the leaders belong from family tree of prophet
Division is a wrong word, but different path or way of following God. So you agree that Ahmediyas and Sufis are different (but many similarities) than Sunnis.
I don`t know much about sufis, so no comment on them without seeing both side of their ideology…while ashmediyas believe in Quran , hadith etc but they claim ahmed as last messenger of god, and thus not considered as true muslim.
The area from where i belong, islam came here thought sufi saint
Diversity is a part of life, but not tolerating someone who is slightly different will certainly certainly bring Hell to this wonderful heaven.
mac, as we told you earlier, when you will reach the age of 45, you will become more tolerant and will be a pluralist (we hope!).
mr admin
this a brief explaination ..for me it is a bad idea to talk about this topic .we must concentrate on interfaithmarriage as mr mac said
thanks
Why it is bad idea when it is not a secret? You have to explain why Shias are bad while all Sunnis are good! Shias should be taught this truth, correct?
You are our Middle East expert, mac is our Indian Muslim expert. Tell us can a Shia and a Sunni marry? Do you know any such marriage in Middle East? Do Shia has to stop being a Shia and convert to Sunni?
admin :
a very good question ..you know now all muslim countries are secular ..
secularity is not just to stop islamic sharia..and replacing it by western laws and constitutions ..secularity is a complete culture involving all life affairs means keeping away religion from controling and directing goverments policy ..ending to personal life affairs ..ie marriage
before iranian shia revolution sunni & shia mixed marriage is normal spacially between non religious couple as no one knows much abuot his religion privacy ( as it is orininally forbidden ) ..but after 1979 the shia secterianism start propagating in shia mentality day by day ..at the same time when iran tries to spread shia religion all around sunni secular world ..for sunni secular govts. they do not care much
but for sunni religious ( increasing day by day ) they started study shia origins and explained every thing to public
you can imagine now that mixed marriage is nearly vanished and tens of thousands of divorce states are recroded spacially in the countries where shia have a significant rates
the sunni respons is still not as much as shia secterian challenge
Wow, no more Shia-Sunni marriages now? Even those who are shia-sunni marriages ending in divorce?
If Sunni cannot tolerate their own brother Shia in marriage, then do you think Sunni will ever tolerate a Hindu?
yes the matter is very serious now ..no one scholar (sunni or shia) believes in brotherhood ..forget one her or their ..speaking to media
any way all mixed marriages is highly concerned to religion ignorance or religion disregarding….we can not account on both
Ahmad, so what is the solution to this Shia-Sunni (two brothers) problem? Sunni will NEVER be able to eliminate Shias, then why not just ignore them? Why not live life in peace? In India, Hindus and Muslims are so different, but still they manage to live day to day life (mostly) normally. In last 10 years, hardly there is any killing of each others (other than by Pakistanis). Compared to that, your Middle East is burning? Why not learn from India?
admin
these questions must be forwarded to shia
not to sunni
when we believe that they are fake islam ..dose not mean that we have to eleminate them ..never as you said
in all muslim countries we ignored them and under the secular sunni govts ( sunni countries)we lived together peacefully (in somehow means)
all the problems araised after khomini revolution in 1979 this indian (sikh origin) announced that shia religion has to be spread all around islamic countries by force and by money (iraqi-iranian oil) as 50 % of islamic countries populations are poor and get less than 1 us. dollar /day
so they started to attack us idealogically -politically- and as you see they are using violence also
for us there is no problem about mutual living
what pushed khomini to do all these chaos in mid east
is that he noticed that his religion is not effective and impressive among shia sector compared with sunni islam which is getting larger and larger gradually …
It is always people pointing fingers at others, this is a common problem all over. OK, explain us “khomini … this indian (sikh origin)”.
Explain us secular sunni governments!! We thought most sunni countries are Islamic, not secular. How do you define secular? REad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_secularism
Explain us why Muslims are poor in most of the world? Why “50 % of islamic countries populations are poor and get less than 1 us. dollar /day”?
i am making every things clear to you so that you may understand the coming future events ..they now have 2two religious govts one in iran an other in iraq …this will encourage sunni to do same wise
Define secularism. As we define it “Secularism is often used to describe the separation of public life and civil/government matters from religious teachings and commandments, or simply the separation of religion and politics.” As we know, most middle eastern government are Islamic.
mid east govts are muslims but not islamic ..means they follow the western constitutions ..separating their policy from islamic standards 1) no more sharia applications
2) admit israli rights of exsistance despite occupying palestine
3) any islamic oppositions were put in jails just for simple statements against them …even those islamists who believe in democracy ..as what happened in egypt
4) some try to control fb and twiter comments also as jordanian govt.
5) in north africa ..there is a real Confrontation between secular govts and islamic parties ..of course us & europe generally support secular side
We understand Israel creation as a thorn in Islamic eye. Now it is a fact of life, what is the solution now? (please create a new comment).
Is Saudi secular government? Are these countries have state religions (like Pakistan)?
From Middle Eastern point of view, can you write us (separate new comment) in details for what Muslims in Middle East think of Hindus? Write 5 points like mac did.
If a Hindu (without conversion) married to a Muslim in the West or in India, and the couple wishes to settle in the Middle East, what that “Hindu” should know for visa, laws and society? Again, write 5 additional points on it. Take a month to write it, don’t rush.
Ahmad, you are our Middle East consultant, welcome! We are not here to prove that one religion is better than the other or one God theory is superior to the other, but we challenge all that says so. Ultimately it is up to the dating couple to decide what is right and wrong for them.
One more thing, can you go through all these posts and provide your thoughts to couples dating a middle easter? Thanks.
https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?cat=143
Hi every one.
Islam is the greatest enemy of womanhood. For the sake of male,s pleasure, how woman folk is exploited, will be clear from the following.
After pronouncing Talaq, the wife becomes haram for the husband. If he wants to remarry the same woman, the rules are set – once the mandatory Iddat period of three months and 13 days gets over, the woman has to get married to someone else. This marriage has to be consummated. After the second husband divorces the woman, the first husband is free to marry her once again after three months and 13 days. However, Halala-fixing is strictly prohibited in Islam. “Maulana Khalid Rashid Firangimahali
VEILED CRIMES Some victims have been subjected to Halala an excruciating two to eight times. Sometimes a close friend of the husband or even the brother obliges. Holding a placard that says ‘Halala is nothing but the vilest of rapes’, the frail and waif-like Rubaiya Ahmad shudders as she recalls the darkest night in 35 years of her life – when she allowed another man into her bed.
“I felt totally numb and dead inside. But that was the only option left to reclaim my two sons, “she says.”Moreover, the Maulvi sahib had warned me that no one would participate in my funeral procession and my family would be ostracised if I flouted the Shari’a’s command. ”
Jalal, Rubiya’s “husband” for one night, was not particularly bothered about her turmoil. He was there for a purpose – to help his close friend salvage his marriage. A night after the Nikah and the mandatory consummation, he divorced Rubaiya without a fuss.
It has been seven years since Rubaiya got back with her first husband, but the horror of Halala has stayed on. “I feel as if the man I married died the day someone else defiled my body,” she declares with vehemence. Her only concern now is to ensure somehow that her sons never get to know about the humiliation their mother faced, for “it would shatter them, or worse, they may blame me for the episode”.
Last week’s meeting held by the Bharatiya Muslim Mahila Andolan (BMMA) proved to be a catharsis of sorts for two dozen-odd victims of mental violence – namely Halala and triple Talaq. “Many who went through this could not gather enough courage to come out and face the world,” says BMMA president Naish Hasan.
Last week, Naish created ripples in conservative Lucknow by dashing off a letter to the octogenarian president of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board. Pressing for inclusion of women’s issues on the agenda in its next executive meeting, it pointedly demanded a ban on Halala and triple Talaq, apart from recommending a codification of the Sharia to escape misinterpretation. “The response from AIMPLB, was as anticipated – nil, ” says Naish.
In her letter, Naish mentioned seven victims who were subjected to Halala an excruciating two to eight times. One of them is Zainab Rubaiya whose husband literally turned her into a prostitute “He would pronounce ‘Talaq Talaq Talaq’ when drunk, when annoyed, when fired from his job, when clubbed by the beat constable or when I stopped his mother from hitting me with a ladle, ” she says. “Any occasion was good enough to boot me out. ”
Zainab recollects that after every Halala, her husband would weep, standing alongside their children. “I bore Halala seven times. It’s a terrible feeling to walk down the road, knowing that everyone in the Mohalla keeps a count of your moles and curves, “she says, teary-eyed. For women like Munni, whose brother-in-law volunteered for Halala, the situation is even more humiliating. “Imagine facing him every day and pretending to be normal, ” she says.
Contrary to the popular belief that Halala is confined to the rural belt, Naish claims that she has listed 11 such cases in the last two months in Lucknow alone. “However, women in the city are turning rebellious, “she says. “Some of them have walked out of the marriage after Halala was ordered – in fact, one woman begs in the Imambara as she believes that begging is more respectable than getting raped every sixth months. ”
The number of Halalas is on the rise, confirms Kamal Khan, a Lucknow-based journalist. Interestingly, Halala is also fraught with risks for the men now – there are instances where the second husband has violated the terms of a fixed Halala and refused to part with the woman, often because she was prettier than his own wife. “So caution is the key word now, ” claims Kamal, who is making a documentary on the practice and has even recorded details of a Halala service run by Maulvis in Ghazipur and Faizabad. “The cleric in Akbarpur has inherited a lucrative business from his father. He conducts the marriage and divorce ceremonies. The business is growing, “he says.
According to Khan, Halala-fixing is nowhere mentioned in Islam. The provision is made for “ittifaqan Talaq” by the second husband – meaning the woman can remarry the first husband if the second husband genuinely divorces her and the move is not carried out under a well-calculated strategy. The way it is followed today, the practice is totally against the spirit of Islam, ” he says.
Zainab has a suggestion that she is too timid to air publicly. “If a man divorces his wife and then wants her back, let him be flogged, skinned or even sodomised,” she says. Why should the poor woman be made to suffer instead? What kind of justice is this? Even animals don’t mate on order. “
Dear readers,
There is a passionate, but somewhat academic debate, over the following issue: Which is the greater threat, the Sunni Muslim Islamists (Egypt, Tunisia, Gaza Strip, and perhaps soon to be Syria) or the Shia Muslim Islamists (Iran, Lebanon, at the moment still Syria)?
I would say the answer would be the Iran-led Shia bloc. But two reservations: the margin isn’t that big and it also depends on the specific place and situation.
To begin with, Iran is still the greatest strategic threat in the region. It is moving as fast as it can toward nuclear weapons and it is still the main sponsor of terrorism. At the moment, it is still, too, the most likely state that would initiate an anti-Western war, though that possibility is smaller than often believed. It has lots of money.
What has gone largely unnoticed is that it is almost the middle of 2013 and the Obama Administration has barely begun negotiations with Iran that will probably drag on without success for a year or more. In addition, after Iran’s June elections, which will presumably pick a radical who is less obviously extremist than current President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the U.S. government and mass media will probably proclaim a new era of Iranian moderation.
Iran is also the main backer of Islamist revolution in Bahrain (where it has failed); Lebanon (where its Hizballah clients are the strongest force); and Syria (where its regime ally is in serious trouble).
One final point is that Tehran is having some success in drawing the Iraqi (Shia) government into its orbit. Baghdad is certainly cooperating with Iran on defending the Syrian regime, though one should not exaggerate how much Iraq is in Iran’s pocket. At any rate, nobody would want the Iraqi regime to be overthrown by the al-Qaida terrorist opposition.
So a strong case can be made that Iran is the greatest threat in the region.
On the other hand, however, a Great Wall of Sunnism has been built to prevent the extension of Iranian influence except for Lebanon. The Sunni bloc contains few Shia Muslims. The Muslim Brotherhood, the even more radical Salafists, and other Sunni Muslims (Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates, for example) have said that the Shias are a worse threat than Israel.
Perhaps the fear of Iran provides some common cause with the West. But this is also a scary proposition since the Obama Administration’s promotion of Sunni Islamism (Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, and even Turkey) could use this point as an excuse. Perhaps America could be said to be building a united front against Iran but at what price? Turning over much of the Arab world to repressive, anti-American, and antisemitic Sunni Islamism as Christians flee?
There is also another weakness of Sunni Islamism, however, that also makes it seem relatively less threatening. In contrast to Iran, the Sunni Islamists do not have a wealthy patron comparable to Iran. They can depend on money from Qatar and to some extent from Libya but they have fewer resources. Sometimes the Saudis will help Sunni Islamists but only if they tone down their warlike and anti-Western actions. There is no big banker for Sunni Islamist destabilization of the Middle East.
Equally, they do not have a reliable source of arms, in contrast to the Shia who have Iran and also at times Russia. True, in Syria the Sunni rebels have U.S. backing to get weaponry and arms from Libya and elsewhere paid for by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Yet Syria is an exceptional case. The Saudis are not going to finance the Muslim Brotherhood and its ambitions. Bahrain has declared Shia Hizballah to be a terrorist group even while the European Union refuses to do so.
So arguably one could say that the Shia Islamists and Iran are a bigger danger. But a second danger is a U.S. or Western policy to promote Sunni Islamism as a way to counter the Shia, a strategy that has intensified regional dangers and the suffering of Arab peoples. Then, too, there’s the fact that al-Qaida is a Sunni Islamist organization, and the al-Qaida forces are getting stronger in Syria.
One would have to be very foolish to want to see Sunni Islamism make further gains, to overthrow the monarchies in Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, or Bahrain, as well as the Algerian regime. One would also have to be foolish–but here the Obama Administration is so–to want to see Muslim Brotherhood regimes succeed in Egypt, Tunisia, the Gaza Strip, and Syria.
What we are seeing, however, is that Islamism is becoming entangled at present with the power it has gained, especially in Egypt. The country is innately in economic difficulties and these are being intensified by Muslim Brotherhood misrule. Rather than raise their countries to the peak of military-economic efficiency, the Islamist regimes are wrecking them.
But there are some very significant wild cards in the deck:
–If Sunni Islamist regimes in Egypt and Syria face significant problems with instability and economics, they might adopt the time-honored, traditional tactic of Arab dictatorships by stirring up foreign quarrels and promoting anti-Americanism. This could unleash future Arab-Israeli wars.
–Sunni Islamist regimes in Egypt, the Gaza Strip, and probably Syria would give extremely radical Salafist forces a free hand in attacking Christians, moderates, women’s rights, foreign embassies, and possibly Israel. Human rights in these countries—if anybody in the West cares about that—are going to suffer severe hits.
–Hamas will probably attack Israel in future, perhaps with at least some Egyptian backing though the Egyptian regime is now trying to restrain Hamas in order to consolidate rule at home and get Western money.
–Al-Qaida is gaining strength in Syria and for the first time its possible takeover cannot be ruled out, at least in alliance with other Salafist groups.
–The stronger the Sunni Islamists the more uncooperative the Palestinian Authority (PA) will be with attempts at a “peace process.” It is possible that the PA would face a considerable challenge from Hamas on the West Bank while forces within Fatah, the PA’s ruling party, might form alliances with Hamas. Israel should be able to keep the PA in power—a situation wrought with irony—but its stability could crumble.
In short, while one can make the case for Shia Islamism being the more dangerous—at least as long as Iran might get nuclear weapons—one must very carefully examine the implications of that judgment in every specific case. Promoting Sunni Islam is no panacea but rather substitutes longer-term for shorter-term threats.
mac brother
i can stop replying on this topic for the sake of you but i can not let hindu repeating what shia write in their false history ..you see what is happening now in the mid east because of iran and her followers
Explain, “shia write in their false history”, thanks.
admin
after persians had been defeated in 2 two big battles and their land was under muslims domination it was clearly noticed that some of them convrted to islam not according to full conviction but .. to distort islam from inside (persians are more educated and literata than arab) they could not change even one word in quran …so their attempts were concentrated on hadith and history.
..what encouraged them more..is that the daughter of perisains king when was arrested as a war slave.. the second caliph did not want her to be a slave of any muslims cz of her royal origins so he gave her to the grandson of the prophet… alhussain ( an honorable man ) who married her and have a son Ali …persians looked at this ali as the man who has 2 holly mixed blood and had interest in his offspring selecting one chain ..considering them ..their imams of 12
alot of persian hadith tellers and muslims historians inserted alot of false stories that showed a very bad pictures about prophet companions ..even the whole prophet generations ..vs a very holly pictures for their 12 imams ..specially those companions who had the major role in persia kingdom removal (1st, 2nd ,3rd caliphs and their military laeders … from the 2nd islamic century this phenomenon was detected by hadith scientists who were spcialized in studying each teller and heistorian personal affairs ..and hadreds were detected and rejected with ther stories but in the late ages of shia ststes shia started to make their own histories with their own tellers with their own hadith.
they had gone more futher than that till they are acting now as a complete saparate islam (a perisian form of islam) trying to destroy our islam
one more important point is that ..alot of shia public have no idea about these facts ..as their mentality is to leave every religious facts to their scholars ..tyey defend their identity when been criticized ..ie..now in iran & iraq any argument means death
So are you saying Syria, Iraq and Iran should be put under the rule of Saudi Arabia? Do you believe all Shia should be converted to Sunni or kill them? If you cannot tolerate Shia Muslims, what will you tell about Christians, Jews and Hindus, ….. should they also be converted to Sunni or kill them? Why Sunnis learn to tolerate others?
Admin, why these comments of sabina from 2013 suddenly appeared in 2015. Is it interfaith shaadi with equality website or is it anti islam, anti muslim website?
Admin is trying to start shia-sunni fight here, coz he got tired aftering instigating hindus against muslims and muslims against hindus through his tactical post.
mac,
It is beyond our comprehension that you are calling Shias non-Muslims and have least tolerance for all other religious practices. Is that only you (or some of you)? Your type exclusivity is the reason Middle East is burning. Most Muslims we know are more like Sabina (“every religion is equal”) and we thank Allah for it.
Tell us if Shias going to go to hell on the Judgment Day? Are Shias going to the same hell as Jews, Christians and Hindus? Alternatively, are there going to be different levels of hell; where Shias going to moderate-hell, Jews and Christians to worst-Hell and Hindus to hell of hell? Wake up, mac!
mac, understand that this world does not belong only to your definition of Muslims. Sunnis, Shias, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and atheist, all, have equal rights to live with dignity here.
admin
i am speaking clearly and frankly ..this religion is from god ..you dont believe ( it is up to you ) muhammad is the messenger of god you dotn believe ( it is up to you ) religions are not equal (take it or leave it ) all other religions are either man made or under man distortion ..ie judaism ..chistenity..(shia is the distortion of islam)
admin you dont believe ..ok just check the history of the three pleace ..if you dont know their histories ..and you dont like to know
better ..we close the topic
you talk about levels in the hell ..that is correct ..hell has different levels for different kind and levels of denyers .criminals ..even for muslims who disregads allah and prophet orders and threw them awy under false justifications ie.. interfath marriage ..or fighting islam even more than non muslims as shia do in mid _east… now but i believe that not all shia are the same i know some of them even dont believe the false story of fatima broken ribs ..some of them respect their mind ..even more than some sunnis
god who will decide their fate on judgment day not me. even sunni may go to hell ..it depends on what and how the sin they did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY_9Ii0d9PE
Dear FI, please add 2-3 lines summary of what this video is all about. This will help decide to readers if they wish to click it here or not. Thanks for considering in the future.
Ahmad, god will decide the fate of people. It is possible that Krishna bhakt Mahatma Gandhi and Jesus believer Mother Teresa will go to heaven while all these Koran and Muhammad believers like ISIS and Osama Bin Laden will get Hell Fire. If this turn out true, then it is not the religion but one’s karma.
admin
when it comes to judgment day ..it will be all under allah will nobody can decide who will go where ..most of educated muslims leaves every thins to his will
LOL 😀 look at admin’s reply to my comment. I asked him onething while he took another path…this is what admin has been doing..you point fault in Hinduism, he talks about tolerance, while his gang of anti-islamist like karter,chand osmani, shagul,etc are everyday writing against islam, but no reaction from Admin.
You asked me why Shias are non-muslim, about Shias or Sect, i have given answer according to Quran earlier, that those who create sect among muslims are not muslim, and Quran doesn’t command to kill shias, in that same verse in Quran, allah says leave the matter to allah about those who create sect/division.
And Admin, can you prove all religions are equal using religion itself, on one hand, you tell hindu girls that islam and hinduism are opposite in order to stop her from marrying her muslim bf while on the other hand you rejoice when a muslim ignorantly says all religions are equal in order to marry their hindu bf/gf.
And if you love equality so much, why don’t you advertise Vedas/Gitas on Muslim like you advertise in every single post about koran on hindus?
You advertise ‘Akansha: Unwillingly converted to Islam’ but you hide ‘Cookee: Willingly converted to Islam’
You ask shias about sunnis and sunnis about shias, catholic,protestant difference etc as an admin, but never saw you talking about Dalit,Brahmin etc while it’s an huge issue in India.
You want to know whether bin laden will be in hell or heaven but you are silent on Narendra Modi,Jeorge Bush, Barak Obama, Bal Thakreys afterlife. You compare laden with gandhi,teresa bt you never talk about thousands of muslim saint , most famous of them being Moulana Rumi, you don’t compare them with mass killer like Kodnana,Babu Bajrangi of Gujarat.
It took yours 2-3 months to make a bost about Heena Hussein (that too after 3-4 request from me) who spoke up against injustice/ill treatment from her hindu bf while you within a day make a post if the girl speaks against islam or in favor of hindu bf like jainab and meher.
Again, asking you samething as you didn’t reply earlier…
Admin, why these comments of sabina from 2013 suddenly appeared in 2015. Is it interfaith shaadi with equality website or is it anti islam, anti muslim website?
Admin is trying to start shia-sunni fight here, coz he got tired aftering instigating hindus against muslims and muslims against hindus through his tactical post.
Sanina’s post made because Rabiya expressed her views. It is good to educate readers of different paths in Islam. Are you saying all others listed here are invalid paths?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches
Noor,
If you find fault with India, why dont you leave and live in Sunni countries.Islam is not a religion of peace, as given below:-
# 1 18,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).
#2 Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#3
Muhammad said in many places that he has been “ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger.” In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.
Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#4
After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other.
Fatima, Muhammad’s favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died. She even miscarried Muhammad’s grandchild after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph.
Fatima’s husband Ali, who was the second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad’s favorite wife – and one whom he had said was a “perfect woman.” 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single battle waged less than 25 years after Muhammad’s death.
Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad’s closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad’s two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.
The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad’s family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time. Within 50 short years of Muhammad’s death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war…
And that’s just the fate of those within the house of Islam!
#5 Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands.
A mere 25 years after Muhammad’s death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the borders of over 28 modern countries outside of Saudi Arabia.
#6
Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.
None of these other religions are at war with each other.
#7 Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.
#8 Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.
#9
The Qur’an never once speaks of Allah’s love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah’s cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.
#10 “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!”
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)
hina
1st- i donot believe you are muslim ..if you are hindu you have no right to speak about our history ,,
but how should i know ???!!!!
i will write to you as a muslim
if i criticized indian govt. that dose not mean i have to leave india ..( you talk about freedom always)
1- if a very very small gruop of muslims terrorists killed 4000 in N.Y
that dose not mean i attack 2 islamic countries killing handreds of thousands with millions other victims (refugees widows orphans )and i dont know from where you got, no 118000…. is it ducumented ??
or any body can say what he likes???!!!
2- the prophet ordered to kill a jew poet talked badly about muslim women honor in al madinah …this is correct
but the woman killing story is not valid as it is documentally is worthless..(the story told by 2two liers)
(of course hina you are very far of these facts)
3-what prohet muhammad said in -3 is only for arab tribes in arab peninsula other non muslim nations are not included
that proves that you are not muslim …hina you know nothing about islam
4- after prophet death some arab tribes (newly converted to islam )
left islam led by fake prohets ( musailimah_ talha-sajah…)
some denied zakah some denied prayer
only al madinah ,mecca .al tatef and some old islam tribes who stayed against them
the same caliph (abu bakr who turned them back to islam ) send them to fight persia and roman ..al these events are within 2.5 years
what dose this mean if you are clever hina ???
there was not any persecution against fatima as all muslims were respectiong her alot with her hasband
i understand why all hindu and non muslims like shia ..why.. becase of such false stories which disgraced islam ..for example ..you hina.
what you dont know ..hina is that shia books are generally divided along 2 two periods
1st…between 900 to 1000 a.c
2nd …1500 a.c till now
this ( story of fatima) is not mentioned in shia books from 900 to 1000 ac it means that it is lately fabricated to disgace la sahabah and sunni islam it is mentioned in the second period after 1500 ac
also the whole story is a big lie as it contains mesterious and lying
tellers (documentally false)
2nd caliph was killed by persian nonmuslim slave
3rd was killed by (jew- ibn saba -led 3 groups)..not led by son of 1st caliph.. he was just a member of them..born 7 monthes before the prophet died
and as per tabari history aisha army was to punish 3rd caliph killers in basrah and ali pursuaded her not complete punishing them cz their tribes will take revenge for them
both ali and aisha sides agreed but r3rd caliph killers attacked (in ali army) aisha army at mid night without permission from ali causing this uncontrled battle which was not ended only by killing the camel of aisha so this battle was made by the same criminals
and ali was killed also by a member of these dirty gruops
his fight with the fifth caliph was because the fifth refused to obey the orders untill ali handle him those killers in his army to punish them
so the reason of all battles and fights and ali killing is the same.. those dirty 3 groups led by that jew
al hassan was poisned ..yes.. his brother was killed.. yes but also by al kufa army who were soldiers in his father ali army one of the dirtiest 3 groups mentioned above
it is a false picture given by shia prefabricated history that there was a fight between muhammad family members and other muslims
these kind of stories were made by tens and tens of persian tellers just to dispoil the fame of muhammad followers who open their land and spreaded islam against their magi religion (if you like names i will give you )
there is no one sentence in quran that say that non muslims are lower degree in humanity than muslims
in aya 70 – sura 17 ( we have honored the human beings ..coplete)
that is any muslim kills any non muslims in islamic countries has to punished sama as killing muslims
your hate to islam ..hina makes you fully blind
for the sake of brother ..mac .. i can stop the topic
but i have to defend my islam anyway
The whole religion is a BIG PUZZLE….even for Muslims themselves……..
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good day…that is true that shia are not true muslims …i am telling you so
in order not to consider ( you and all hindu friends) what all crimes done in mid-east (in iran _iraq_syria_ yemen_lebanon_ bahrain)..to be considered as an islamic activities …here i am telling you ..to make every things …clear
by the way all indian governments .have a spacial good relation with iran
looks like the realized that the shia islam …is a good ally against sunni islam (the majority)
We don’t understand why Sunnis on this web site are telling us that Shia are not Muslims? Shia follow Allah and pray in the direction of Kaaba. Sabina is an excellent human being and a proud Muslim, why some one will say she is not a true-Muslim? This is a puzzling point, explain to us.