This is not something InterfaithShaadi believes. Girls or women, what do you think of such stereotyping by a Muslim?
mac says: April 15, 2016 at 12:44 am
Can a hindu home tolerate a muslim woman cooking beef in their holy kitchen? Or will the muslim woman forced to change her food habit, if so, initial promise of tolerating each other faiths by the hindu in-laws and the guy was a lie, isn’t it admin?
Just like a muslim don’t need to be a non-veg for becoming a perfect muslim as per islam, same way a hindu can be a perfect hindu by removing the murtis from home as murtipuja are also not required to be a hindu, infact it is condemned in vedas and upanishads,the supreme hindu book of spiritual guidance. So is a hindu guy ready to remove all the murtis from his home for sake of her muslim future wife and is a muslim girl ready to give up non-veg especially beef for the sake of her future hindu husband? If both are done, then we can rationally accept without any iota of doubt that the marriage is based on mutual understanding and tolerance, else not. But in real life, since india is muslim minority and generally muslim girls are submissive and slave minded, the case always been of muslim girl adjusting her life, compromising her fundamental religious belief and not the hindu boy though the love life starts from the promise of toleration and mutual respect from the hindu guy just for the sake of convincing the muslim girl. -mac
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Vow great Admn.
Why dont you threaten to block Mac and Mohammad like elements,who post
all nuissance materials to mislead readers and closing their eyes towards islamic evils which also caused harrassment,torture to their own female members.Perhaps because they are your blue eyed boys.As a muslim female,how much I suffered, and forced me to leave this criminal religion, is a open
truth, as happening in various islamic countries by terrorists who get coverage of their crimes from islamic texts contained in Quran and Hadith.
QURAN ALLOWS KEEPING SEX SLAVES AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MUSLIM GIRLS HAVE BEEN SALVE MINDED SINCE CENTURIES.
Sorry but we need to make sure people are authentic. We don’t mind you are using a fake name (as a matter of fact, that is good for your privacy) but one should not keep changing names.
Admn.
It is shocking to find that you are correlating me with other writers, whom I donot know.If you are unconfortable to see the texts based on real life situations of islamic religion, you block me. Whenever, I visit my sister in India and see her pathetic condition in a muslim family, I get prompted to save other innocent girls from the deceptive methods of trapping of non muslim girls,by terrorist mind set people in the name of islam. Have you ever realized the miserable and pathetic condition of muslim girls in terror hit countries?
You have been making separate blogs outside the vision and mission of this site, just to educate and make aware of evils of different socities, but you never made a separate blog in respect of mutta and halala evils of islam.
Hope you will not be prejudiced and baised based on false and misleading texts being posted by Mac, Pakhi and Mohammad.
Here is one more example of slave mentality, but thank god hindu women aren’t slave minded unlike the muslim women , that is why they refused to accept such rules for them, btw in mecca, women and men wear same dress, women don’t have to wear wet dresses to qualify entrance into mecca, because rules of islamic religion were made by allah,the almighty unlike hindu religion where males make rules for women. Here we go , Trimbakeshwar Temple Will Allow Women To Enter Only If They Wear Wet Clothes! http://www.indiatimes.com/culture/who-we-are/trimbakeshwar-temple-will-allow-women-to-enter-only-if-they-wear-wet-clothes-253598.html
You said, “hindu women aren’t slave minded unlike the muslim women,” why?
The title appears to be correct in islamic context. The muslim girls are prohibited higher education, forced to wear, restrict their movements, halala,Mutta, tripple talak,stonning to death, FMG,3 other wives of husband, are such practices, that they become helpless and easily socumb to pressure. Even in rape cases, they do not get justice, cannot allege openly, as they become victim of honour killings.
Slavery of ages, and evil teachings of koran, made them submissive and helpless in islamic religion but those married outside their faith, have risen to heights of successes with support of inlaws and husband.
Mac will always advocate and grolify evil practices because of his evil and criminal mind set and his association with terrorists.
Sabana, Mubina, Roy, etc
You are certainly fake and hurting your credibility. You make several post the same time under different names with same style and message and with yahoo as your web site. We just deleted your some 5 messages. We don’t want to block you from this site but you are compelling us to do that. Can you pick up one name and stick with it? Further, instead of cut and paste, why don’t you express yourself. Thanks for considering (if not we will block you).
Thanks that admin posted it.
Only because admin didn’t fabricate my comment which he earlier did when he post ‘mac:my mother was brahmin’. That’s why i thank admin for this honesty because this time he gave full context to what i meant. What i said about some muslim girls was in specific context, if millions of muslim girls don’t fall in that context, then surely i don’t regard them as submissive and slave minded and also it had nothing to do with my ideology as admin suggested it that though i think i don’t have any ideology which i follow specificly than other people and also i will explain below why any rational person will accept why such girls are submissive and slave minded.
Admin didnt get any other topic to create, so unneccary topic was created. . .
mac,
This is a very profound statement. Are you going to come back saying that you did not mean this? Do you really mean to say, “Muslim Girls are Submissive and Slave Minded”? Wow!!
As far we are concerned, this is something a wrong stereotyping on women. Muslim women may not follow your ideologies but that does not mean they are “slave” minded.
Lets assume you are true. Then the question is who made them with a “slave” mentality in this free world? Are Muslim parents to be blamed to raise them as slave-prone? We hope Allah will give you plenty of daughters and they will show you that women are but what you think.
We agree to your point that there are many complex issues to handle in an interfaith marriage. Unless one is flexible and adaptable, one should not get into interfaith love relationship. Marriage is not about me, me, me but sharing true love and tolerating others the way they are.
Agree to “murtipuja are also not required to be a hindu.” Now tell us if some one say he does not want to utter the word “Muhammad” but wish to be a Muslim, can he/she be a true Muslim? It is okay if someone wishes to connect directly with Allah without the middle man? Yes, that is possible in Hinduism (connect directly to Isvara without murtipuja or without any devtas). Enlighten us!
A Muslim Girl who was married with a Brahmin Hindu man says : “Every night I was just a toy for my hindu husband”. [ m.youtube.com/watch?v=yogwJMcVPOU ]
This is not what Mac is saying, this is what a muslim girl who was married with a hindu man is saying.
Now question is why she is saying all these after leaving her husband, why she tried to live with her hindu husband despite all these, why she didn’t tell her parents then? Why she kept on tolerating all these?
The answer to all these quesions was given by me earlier, that Muslim girls are submissive and slave minded
She just to live with her hindu husband tolerated all these insults from her hindu husband which she described in her interview(link to interview is provided above), she to show world how she is happy with her hindu husband hide all these attrocities on her. But why?
A muslim woman from my district once married a hindu man, her family obviously opposed it, but she didn’t listen to anyone and eloped with her hindu bf. But how was she welcomed in her hindu home? She was first purified, but how? By making her bath by cow piss and pasting cow shit on her body, they termed it as ‘shruddi karan’ of their new daughter in law who was impure(i.e muslim) and now they purified her by making her bath using cow waste products. Ladies and gentlemen, who will accept such degradation of human dignity, only a slave minded person will surely do.
She to get married with her hindu bf tolerated all these non-sense happily but what did her hindu husband had to pass through? Nothing.
And then there is a girl named Rabia Sultana Sharma 😀 who describes herself happily married with a hindu husband, portrays her to be very religious and islamically awakened, gives advices to other such couples. When she realised there isn’t anyway to disqualify the notion that marrying hindu is sin for any muslim girl, she choosed to blame muslim men for her getting married with a non-muslim men that muslim men were shy to propose her ( LOL 😀 NICE excuse nevertheless) and then in another day takes U turn and blames muslim men in another way that there aren’t any muslim men like her hindu husband in this world, if anyone can produce such muslim men, she will leave her hindu husband and marry muslim men, now we all know that’s a pathetic lie, coz first she said muslim men didn’t appoach her, since oneday a hindu guy approached her so she is with that guy, then in another day makes a hypothetical discourse of god not creating a muslim men suitable for her! Huh! Quran must be a false book then 😀
but in whole never conversation never revealed that her hindu in laws treated her the best way which makes her always write to new comers that i have learnt for myself how badly hindu in laws treat their muslim daughter in law. 😀
The reason muslim women hide the facts about their married life with hindu husband is to hide the facts from muslim men, they want to show muslim men how they are happy being with hindu guy though everyday feel guilty about themselves, getting beaten up by their husband, forced to change food habits and much more. And secondly, many don’t realise that they aren’t treated gracefully coz they are such slave minded, like when a muslim girl will leave her food habit for her hindu husband but her hindu husband will not throw murtis out of home for his muslim wife, but she is so slave minded that she will not even realise this inequality.
Are hindu women made to take bath in cow piss and paste cow shit aka gobar on their face to purify them when they marry muslim men? The answer is NO. Will hindu women accept such non-sense? The answer is NO, but many muslim women do. Accepting allah as almighty doesn’t nullify hindu beliefs, so a hindu men happily sits on a nikah marriage knowing it means nothing to his religious belief, but will not negotiate about cow aka gao mata, but a muslim girl will sit in hindu ceremony where multiple gods and false dieties(as per islam) are involved going against her religion, she will also teach her children that ram,krishna are also god going against her religion but hindu husband will not teach that same kid that cow isn’t holy, it’s jurt an animal, so beef is allowed because it goes against his religion, but most of muslim girls don’t have that brain and thought process to point out that hypocrisy, cause they are submissive and slave minded.
So dear admin, i didn’t consider them slave minded for difference of my ideology, but for good rational points and i am ready to debate on those points, coz i might be right or wrong on those points. What you said would have been true only if i believed muslim women are slave minded just for marrying hindu guys, but i gave reasons for what i said, and if you notice i also said i am ready to accept such interfaith marriage as love if tolerance are showered from both end, but talks of tolernace are showered from one end while it is performed only from the muslim end.
mac, you will make a good Muslim husband and this way you will save one Muslim girl from saying “there aren’t any muslim men like her hindu husband in this world, if anyone can produce such muslim men, she will leave her hindu husband and marry muslim men.” When you see non-Muslim girls in your college, remember Koran 24:30 (lower your gaze). Make a point of marrying to someone your parents recommend, like you sister did, and you will be happy ever after (and will save one Muslim girl from marring a Hindu!). Don’t be a love Jihadi, don’t marry to someone to make her something she is not today.
Admin, like you always do, divert from the topic. What i said was in certain context to show how these girls lie to hide their sins and guilt feeling. When she said no muslim man is suitable for her, we all knew that was an obvious lie as earlier she herself had said that she is with a hindu guy as no muslim men ever approached her, only a hindu guy ever approached her in her entire adult life.
And i always have a option of 4, why you are so worried? If muslim women are ended up in hell for marrying non-muslims, then allah is not gonna throw me in hell fire. But it’s certainly true that muslim men marrying hindu girls in large numbers had made muslim girls vulnerable in steeping outside religion in search of husband, but it can’t be hold as an excuse to marry non-muslim men as most of non-muslim women who marry muslim men accept islam thus making the marriage a halal one, while most muslim girls fail to do that when they marry non-muslim men thus they spent their life within a haram marriage as per islam.
Also admin, i have given reasons why i made that statement, why aren’t that comment appearing which i made yesterday isn’t appearing in the main section of the post?
Ignorant people always hide truth brother. .
Mac, bro, who exactly are you talking about when you refer to a certain “Rabia Sultana Sharma”? If you are talking about me, please don’t make fake names, my name is not Rabia Sultana Sharma, brother 🙂 And if you are talking about some other girl, “who describes herself happily married with a hindu husband, portrays her to be very religious and islamically awakened, gives advices to other such couples”, then I apologise for misunderstanding you. But I think as the only Rabia in this forum, I am going to respond to your statements.
a) You yourself made the assumption that I am “Islamically awakened”, not me. Yes, I admit that I did mention on multiple posts that I have some knowledge of Islam & religions in general, because I have always been interested in theology since childhood despite growing up in a very liberal & secular family. I did study Islam with some amazing professors, but that does NOT make me an expert. Only God knows best. Not Mac or Rabia or Imam X, Y, Z – but God (Allah).
b) I am giving advice based on my own experiences of what works and what doesn’t. I have a lot to learn, as I am still young. And I do have some other interfaith couples as friends, so I am sometimes giving advice after observing their situations. Life is always a challenge, and even more so if you are trying to make a multi-faith relationship work.
c) This cow dung thing you mentioned is horrible & no self-respecting woman (Hindu or Muslim) should ever agree to such a thing. And I can tell you for a fact that very few educated people would agree to such a thing, even in a Hindu household. Seriously, who does this stuff to “purify” someone else???
But my hindu class mates were serious about it and took a offense when i criticized it, i am talking about graduating students from science stream, and they were girls.
Another example of such educated people living in america doing this cow shit crap, read markendey katju’s this post m.facebook.com/justicekatju/posts/983295468377666
Markandey Katju says –
“Varna Sankar in USA
How backward most Indians are can be realized by the fact that many of even those Indians who are highly qualified engineers or doctors and have migrated and are settled in America are still very casteist.
This can be realized from an incident narrated yesterday to me by an NRI, who I have no reason to disbelieve.
In a certain city in USA ( which I will not name, to avoid identification of the persons involved ) there was a young Indian couple who fell in love, and got married.
The young man was a dalit, i.e. belonging to a Scheduled Caste ( the lowest caste in India ), while the young woman was a Brahmin ( the highest caste in India ).
The young man never disclosed to his wife that he was a dalit, probably thinking that in the West it is immaterial. He was a tall, very handsome, light skinned person, who had done very well in academics and professionally,and was working for a reputed company in USA, and drawing a good salary in 6 figures ( i.e. over 100,000 dollars a year ). His wife doted on him, and the couple was very fond of each other.
When a son was born to the couple, they threw a party to which the parents of the couple were also invited. It was there that the caste of the young man became known for the first time to the young woman and her family, when the young man’s father disclosed to the young woman’s parents that they were dalits.
This shocked the young woman and her whole family. The young woman immediately went somewhere and got some ‘gau mootra’ ( cow urine ), poured it over her head and face to purify herself, and left her son and husband forever. She later also got a divorce, and has refused to even have anything to do with her son ( probably regarding him a bastard ). The son is now living with the father.
This shows how difficult it is to change the mindset of people, even though they may have migrated to a modern country, and how deep the roots of casteism are, even among the so-called educated section of our society.
In the Bhagavad Gita ‘varna sankar’ (inter caste marriage ) is denounced in Chapter 1 shloka 42.
KULAKSHAYE PRANASHYANTI KULADHARMA SANATANAHA
DHARME NASHTE KULAM KRITSNAM ADHARMO’BHIBHAVATYUCHA
ADHARMABHIBHAVAAT KRISHNA PRADUSHYANTI KULASTRIYAHA
STREESHU DRISHTVASU VARSHNEYA JAYATE VARNA SANKARAHA
SANKARO’ NARAKAYAIVA KULAGHNANAM KULASYA CHA
PATANTI PITARO HYESHAAM LUPTA PINDODAKA KRIYAHA
O Krishna, when the family is destroyed, immemorial religious rites and rituals perish, when these perish, they fall into a state of impiety. By impiety, the women of the family become corrupt. When women become corrupt, the purity of the caste is polluted by confusion and admixture. Caste pollution leads to hell for both the family and the slayers of the family. The dead forefathers fall form the higher realms of existence being deprived of the rites of sraddha and tarpana.
So Gita upholds caste system, and clearly states that inter caste marriage leads to hell. And this is the book which the Prime Minister presents to dignitaries on his trips abroad, and a Judge of the Indian Supreme Court wanted to be made compulsory in all schools in India !
Hari Om”
And the case of muslim woman which i described, is a real life story of muslim woman who had married with a hindu husband.
What i feel is that these are fringe and extreme cases. But there are people educated who don’t do those crap, but they believe cow as holy,mother and thus consider people who eat beef as unholy people that is why in india there is always tension over cow related issues, even muslims are killed for eating beef, there are gao raksha vahini who beat people to death in open street, there are people who spray cow urine to purify their house, there are people who drink cow piss, and these are not fringe groups who do, vast majority of people fall under that category.
BTW if your name is not Rabia Sultana Sharma, then you don’t need to reply to those points attached in the name of Rabia Sultana Sharma.
And if you feel somehow you need to respond for any reason, then you may reply, and you did replied throwing lights on some points but you ignored the point where i described the hypocrisy and lie making of Rabia Sultana Sharma.
Btw did you watch the video of a muslim girl who was married with a hindu, for which i have provided a youtube link?
The video link didn’t work, it said the video didn’t exist. And honestly on most days, just like you, I have better things to do than “vomit on the internet” like you once said 🙂 I do agree 100% that casteism is one of the greatest social evils in India today. I see it with my friends’ families. Our generation is slightly more immune to such divisions if they have been exposed to other cultures or have non-Hindu friends, but it will take a few generations to change the mindset of many people, especially to stop discrimination against Dalits…etc.
@ Sis Rabia, here is the link again : http://www.google.co.in/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DyogwJMcVPOU&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjllZfHnp3MAhVJnJQKHfyIAOAQtwIIBQ&usg=AFQjCNGs7BczpPydmbY9gvrq5eJuXDQmog
if it doesn’t work, then click http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yogwJMcVPOU
if still doesn’t work, copy paste this in youtube and then search /Muslim Lady ‘Every night I was just a toy for my Hindu Husband’/
Done.
Admin has quiet ever since i gave those two replies and fake gang of rubina,chand osmani are out there doing their job for which they paid of.
mac, you write so much with your radicle mindset so we don’t feel like replying you all times. Tell us what you wish us to reply to you?
One last thing to add: I unfortunately wasn’t lucky enough to meet those amazing & good Muslim men in my adult life before I met my husband. Had I met a wonderful Muslim man educated enough & understanding & kind enough for me, I would have probably married him. So you misunderstood my point – I never meant to say that no Muslim guy is as good as my husband. I cannot claim such things since I don’t know all Muslim men on the planet – lol! And you probably read my comments where I mentioned having male and female friends from all religions, all my childhood friends come from Muslim cultures, brother. Some are now agnostic, some are atheists, and very few, like me, still believe in God & Islam. Sadly, this is the reality of today’s “ummah”. And it’s up to young people like you & me to change this cycle – don’t you think, Mac?
To grandfather admin : you asked why i wrote such things about muslim girls, i gave two reasons for that, one is the youtube video link and another is the real life story from my locality, but you didn’t responded to those.
To Rabia sister: Did those link worked?
My focus on katju’s post was not the existing evil casteism but an educated women pouring gao mutra i.e cow urine on her body to purify herself as you said no educated women whether hindu or muslim will do that, but fact remains the same that in the name of hindu religion women or men will do such crappy shit no matter what their educational qualification is, and there will be some muslim women in india who will do that to please her hindu bf/husband and in-laws and i have no shame in calling them slave minded
We saw the video and learn of a case in your community. So what does that prove (2 people out of one billion)?
It’s not about billion, it’s about tiny percent of that million who are slave minded i.e married with hindus compromising with the minimum level of human dignity.
Yes, I watched the terrible video. Poor woman… she put her trust in the wrong guy. Should have left him earlier…