Saimah says: December 22, 2012 at 10:50 am
Hello
I am Saimah from Davavo City, Phillipines and in love with a Hindu Boy for the last 4 years.We both are working in the same hotel, he is a manager and my self in a staff category, mainly attending tours and travels part of guests. He is settled in Phillipines belong to India, some where in Punjab state.
He wants to marry me and I too. My parents being liberal also wants him to their son in law being well understood by them. Next month he is going to India and he wants me to also visit with him.
My parents have given permission to see India with him.I have yet to process for visa clearance. -Saimah.
Saimah says: December 23, 2012 at 8:47 am
Hello every one,
I have seen wonderful things quoted from Islam. These have opened my eyes, really, I have found in some muslim communities so horror and terrorful life of muslim women even in Phillipines. Really miserable condition is their. Thank God, my family was not so cruel.
I have decided to marry Hindu guy, he is from Hare Rama Hare Krishna Mission, very religious and told me so many good things about Hinduism. Hindus here in Phillipines are mainly business oriented community and enjoy good reputation.
I shall be marrying him through Hindu culture and then legally marriage to be registered in the court of law.
I shall also join Hare Rama Hare Krishna mission and teach my kids, if ever, hahahha, about Hindu ideals who treate wife as Goddess too.
Please read these articles and it will help you:
Hindus, Abrahamics and Intolerants
A Jealous and Angry God
Idol Worshippers: Who is and Who is Not
Religious Conversion for Marriage
Ten Points of Interfaith Dating
FAQ on Interfaith Marriage
Also read: Islamic Women Today, Hindu-Muslim marriages, Hindu girl, Muslim girl, Hindu boy, Muslim boy,
Be a friend on Facebook. Return to InterfaithShaadi.org. To share your experience, read.
Do not these posts as they are antíislamic and learn about islam at http://www.usislam.org and find truth. If you marry non muslim youwill go to hell forever life after death this life is 6o or 100 years.if you want to go hell then marry
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Hymen reconstruction, a surgery that repairs a hymen that is no longer intact, is controversial but that doesn’t stop more and more women from having it done.
The hymen is a tissue in vagina that tears and bleeds when one has sex for the first time. The hymen can also be “broken” by strenuous exercise, the use of tampons and other activity can cause the membrane to tear.
So what does it matter? Who cares if the hymen is intact or not? Well, in some cultures, men do. In cultures where virginity is highly prized, it matters a great deal if the hymen is intact and if there is bleeding on the wedding night. It may be an old fashioned way of thinking, but some men expect their bride to be a virgin and there can be extreme consequences in some countries.
Rather than stay a virgin, women are opting to experience sex before marriage, then have the hymen reconstructed. The surgery isn’t terribly expensive, around $800 in China, where it is becoming more common. Muslim countries also have a large number of women seeking the procedure.
More about hymen reconstruction surgery, and one man’s explaination of why women are “like cell phones” and why his future wife should be a virgin?
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Zeenat says: January 2, 2013 at 7:22 am
Hello Muslim sisters,
Dont worry about loss of virginity before wedding night.
Hymenoplasty in Thailand is a viable option for women who wish to appear chaste before marriage or want to recapture the first intercourse experience. Those who want to save considerably and remain discreet about their hymen repair should consider virginity surgery in Thailand.
Hymen repair surgery in Thailand is available at a lower price than in First World countries, such as the US, the UK, and Australia, because of the lower cost of living. However, the affordable prices of cosmetic surgeries such as sex change and laser vaginal rejuvenation in Thailand does in no way imply compromising the quality of the surgery you will be receiving—the reputable Bangkok plastic surgeons have undergone rigorous medical training and are compassionate to the needs of medical tourists.
Besides the low prices and quality surgery, the popularity of Thailand’s tourist activities also attracts numerous foreign patients from all over the world. According to the article “The effects of medical tourism: Thailand’s experience,” by Anchana NaRanong and Viroj NaRanong published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization on September 22nd, 2009, Thailand provided medical services to as many as 1.4 million foreign patients in 2007.
Hymen Repair – How It’s Done?
During the procedure, your surgeon will numb the area with a local anesthetic. The edges of the previously torn hymen will be brought together to re-form the small ring as it was originally.
The surgery is not recommended for women who have had vaginal deliveries or who have been pregnant.
After the surgery, the “revirginized” hymen will bleed and tear during sexual intercourse as it would prior to any sexual relations.
Hymenoplasty takes about one hour to perform.
The recovery period typically takes about two months. Patients should not exercise or do any strenuous activities (including sexual intercourse) for the first couple of weeks after the surgery. Patients can usually go back to work after one week.
Advantages of Hymenoplasty in Thailand
One does not have to worry about going over his/her budget, as the hymen repair cost in Thailand is much lower than in the United States, the Middle East, the United Kingdom and other European countries and Australia.
With medical tourism in Thailand on the rise, the country’s doctors and hospital staff know how to make foreign patients feel welcome. The leading plastic surgery hospitals in Bangkok are replete with all the modern facilities and equipment. Additionally, English-speaking hospital staff and multilingual translators make communication between the patient and the doctor a breeze.
Getting hymen reconstruction surgery in Thailand allows you to be discreet about your hymen repair. You can simply tell friends and family members that you are flying out for a vacation so they will not know you will be undergoing hymen repair in Thailand.
You will be in good hands during your virginity restoration surgery in Thailand, as there are numerous JCI-accredited hospitals in the Southeast Asian country.
If you have been considering other aesthetic procedures besides hymen repair surgery in Bangkok, now is the time to do it. Obtaining procedures such as a nose job or fat transfer in Thailand along with your hymenoplasty will help you save considerably.
Things to Consider Before Undergoing Revirgination in Thailand
While an affordable hymenoplasty cost in Thailand is important, patients should take care not to let price be the only factor in their decision. Making sure that the hospital is reputable and the surgeon is board-certified is crucial to getting the desired results.
When considering hymenorrhaphy in Thailand, it is important to plan out your mode of transportation.
Whether obtaining hymenoplasty or buttock implants in Thailand, it is important that you research your doctor and hospital of choice thoroughly before traveling to Thailand. You may want to look at before and after pictures, patient feedback, and online forums.
The best time to visit Thailand is November through February.
Undergoing a hymenoplasty in Thailand is a great way to save on costs while obtaining high quality surgery. And during your stay to avail hymenoplasty in Bangkok, you would love being able to indulge in the city’s various sightseeing activities as you recover.
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Golbahar says: January 2, 2013 at 6:07 am
Hello readers,
In my opinion, when both male and female are creation of almighty, if the male can enjoy premarital sex with out proving their virginity for marriage, if the females enjoy premarital sex and get their hymen repaired for wedding night, what is the harm? Females have right to equally satisfy their physical requirement at a time, when they need from the male whom they prefer.
It is really a boon for females to get their hymen repaired for marriage to teach lessons to the males. Due to present libral environment and socail net working sites including sexual chattings, the courage for early sex has arisen among teenagers and they enjoy many times before being married. The cases of hymen repair surgeries through out the world particularly among muslim females have increased many times and such center and clinics are earning a lot.
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Farzana says: January 2, 2013 at 5:48 am
Hello Tiger,
But in fact a jackal.
Who is responsible for the present condition of females in Islam?
According to Islamic culture Muslim girls must be virgin when they enter a marriage. For girls who had not succeeded in doing so, the wedding night hangs like the sword of Damocles above their head. A hymen repairs operation offers a way out. “I’ll do everything, if only I’ll bleed.”
“I was greatly relieved when I was after it.” Yasmina (22) from Rotterdam sits on a bench in Zuiderpark. She wears jeans with a leather jacket and big silver earrings hang from her ears. After thinking and weighing it for a long time, Yamina had finally promised to talk about one of the great taboos in the Islamic community: the hymen repair operation.
Yasmina: “I was 19 and head over heels in love with with a boy at school. He was also Muslim and when he heard from my girlfriends that I though he was nice, we started talking. My girlfriends warned me that I should still look out because he was known as a player, but I was too in love to listen. More than that he told me I was the one. Exactly three months after I went out with him it happened. He swore to stay by me, but when I called him up the following day he broke it off.”
At that moment Yasmina realized that she would never be a virgin when she married. “I felt terrible. Not being a virgin before marriage is one of the greatest sins in Islam. My mother always told me in the past that girls who gave away their virginity will never marry. I really wanted to get married and out of fear kept silent.” Three years later, when Yasmina was ready to get married, the panic began anew. “My fiance made no secret of the fact that he thought it very important that I was still a virgin. I was then also terrified of what he would do if I didn’t bleed. Probably he would immediately separate from me. By chance I happened on the internet on a clinic that offered hymen repair operations. At that moment it seemed to me the perfect solution. A couple of days ago I had the operation and next week I’ll be married. I know that I can’t erase the past, but the hymen repair operation made me in any case a virgin again.”
Yasmina is one of the hundreds of girls in the Netherlands who go through a hymen repair operation annually. The operation is especially popular by Muslim girls of Turkish, Moroccan and Hindu origins. In this group there’s often enormous obscurity about the hymen. The girls are raised with the idea that the hymen is a type of glass membrane that closes the vagina and which only lets the menstrual blood flow through. During the wedding night this membrane is perforated and the girl bleeds. In many North-African countries it is even usual on the following day to show the bloodied sheets to the family. When a girl is no longer a virgin, she is repudiated according to tradition. In the Netherlands, despite the present time, this tradition is persistently held on to. Girls who lose their virginity without marriage go into complete panic.
Wies Obdeijn- Van Welij, doctor and sexologist, gets 50 girls a year who beg for a new hymen. “Most girls who come here still think that they must bleed when they lose their virginity.”
“In the past maybe it was so that in the Islamic culture certainly 90% of the girls bled during the wedding night. But this happened mainly because they married very young and through marrying off still barely knew their partner. Because of the nerves there wasn’t a state of arousal and that resulted in bleeding. Today certainly 40% of the girls don’t bleed during the first time. Also the hymen is not a film that must be pierced but barely a bordering tissue.”
However many girls decide to go through the repair operation. Obdeijn- Van Welij: “The idea of bleeding is often held so deeply that they barely believe anything else. They just want most of all to bleed during the wedding night. As the tradition prescribes. An operation can take care of that. During the operation we pull the edges of the hymen more tightly so that the girl almost certainly will bleed. When they’re done with it, they often go home happily. Virginity is strongly connected by these girls to the hymen.” If it’s intact, it means they’re virgins.
Saida (25), from Amsterdam, had a hymen repair operation two years ago. She sits in a station restaurant in The Hague because she is afraid to be recognized in her own neighborhood. “Though every Muslim knows it happens, nobody talks about it,” she says. “This is the first time that I tell about it. When I was seventeen I lost my virginity. It was a boy from class with whom I had a courtship at that time. Naturally I felt very guilty afterwards, but my fear began just when I was about to be married. At any cost bleed during the wedding night. I didn’t want my husband to be disappointed and also though even as a virgin you don’t have to bleed, my husband would never understand that. Above all, I had no interest in difficult talks during my marriage. It had to be perfect. Therefore I had a hymen repair operation. The wedding night was perfect. I bled and my husband was completely happy.”
However the operation is disputed. Many gynecologists refuse to perform the operation because it upholds the myth regarding the hymen. Ineke of Seumere is a gynecologist at the UMC in Utrecht and performs the operation only rarely and on exceptional indications. When we support the idea that a virgin must bleed during the wedding night nothing will ever change. Not only do we agree that a virgin must bleed, we also help to keep the tradition. A tradition that according to Seumeren is full of contradictions. Isn’t it strange that a man may have sexual intercourse before marriage but demand a virgin? Therefore I get girls repeatedly that have used anti-conceptions for years, and now they want a quick restoration before their marriage.
Obdeijn-Van Welij agrees with the gynecologist’s story. “There are even girls who come to me that are yet plainly virgin and want to make sure that they bleed. But I think that it’s not up to use to change the tradition. You shouldn’t forget that these girls are a second generation of guest workers. They are girls that have enormous double feelings. On the one hand they grow up in the free Netherlands. On the other hand they don’t want to disappoint their parents. I think that the situation will change by itself. Till that time, I will attend girls as well as I can. That’s what I’m a doctor for.”
Yasmina is not worrying anymore about her wedding night. “Through the operation my problem has been solved. My husband will tear my hymen, and I will bleed for him. May be feeling proud of him.
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admin says: January 1, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Tiger,
Can you guide what Saina should do now? She is confused about Islam and need your guidance. Can you ask other Islamic experts to come and guide Saina?
Why you are blaming this web site? If not this web site, Saina would have said this at other web site. Important point is to guide Saina to a right path and all are welcomed to share their own views.
We recommended her to focus on good education now, is that a good advise? What would you say?
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Shejadi says: January 1, 2013 at 4:52 am
Nice advice given by Saimah.
Saina you should act as per advice given by Saimah and need not to worry about Imam. Imam will never tell truth, as they are interested in enjoying their life with sex and cruelty on the females.
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suma says: December 31, 2012 at 9:33 am
There is no permanent hell or paradise in Hindu theology. One accrues karma out of one’s actions in a life time. After death one comes back in a different body and transmigrated atman (or soul) and then continues the journey with accrued karma. By the way this applies to ALL HUmans regardless of the faith one belongs to. Sadly muslims and Christians threaten the people with dire consequences like hell to those who are not christians or muslims.So you are better off believing in hindu doctrines and forget about the eternal hellfire. AS you said, all christians and muslims are abused psychologically with the hell inevitability to apostates and others. Live without fear and do only good things. So dharma-karma-moksha is the doctrinal sequential philosophy we believe in. God is not cruel to create hell for ANYBODY.Relax.
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suma says: December 31, 2012 at 9:39 am
learn about savage Islam by reading ‘faithfreedom.oreg’ run by Ali Sina, and further explore Nonie Darwish, Wafa sultan and Ayan Hirsi Ali. These are all educated muslims and tell you about the savage religion and savage prophet Mohammads. By the way they are all muslim men and women.Google those names.Learn the facts and take a decision.
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Saimah says: December 31, 2012 at 2:23 am
Hello Saina,
You are educated and modern girl and so you need not to bother about the advice of Imam/maulvi who are most cruel and corrupt/criminal to discriminate and torture female community. They are the follower of so called Prophet, who did not spare his own grand daughter like 6 years old girl to rape at the age of 59. Be tactful, get age of maturity, look for a nice non-muslim guy, who is kind,intelligent, cooperative. Can you disclose your country right now? In Islam women are subject to so many innumerable cruelties, in security of women.
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admin says: December 30, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Saina,
You are only 15 years and fully dependent on your parents now. For your personal safety, please do not talk against Islam to your boy friend (even you may think he is trust worthy), parents or to your imam. Punishment to renounce Islam is stoned to death, no kidding, they mean it.
Further, do not mention to ANYONE about this post. Do not brag to anyone in your school. If your community finds out your opinion and views expressed on this site, you could get into deep deep trouble. This is not the right time to go public with your real identity.
Ignore Islamic issues now, it is not a right time for you, instead fully focus your mind and time on your education.
When ever you are frustrated, just come here and express your feeling to the world. No one will find out who you are and thus there is no harm to you. Act smart. Be careful
Don’t attack on reilgion
Hello Admn. and other sisters,
Good day. Here is a update about my life story. I shall be moving with my Hindu BF to India on 12th Jan.2013 to see his Punjab State in India and celebrate Lohri, a festival also celebrated as Makarsakranti.
I am really proud of my BF and my luck too including my liberal parents, caring so much about my happiness.
Thanks a lot to all of you for showing interest and guiding me.
Hello sisters,
I would like to share my experience with you and other women in my situation.
OK, so where should I begin. I am an educated woman from Norway who went to Oxford to study when I was 20 years old. When I was 24, I fell in love with a man that treated me very good (well, at least in the beginning…). He was born and raised in London, but he was still very true to his religion, which was (unfortunately) Islam.
I was actually very disappointed when he told me that he was Muslim, cause I had seen good friends around me being treated very bad by Muslim men, but because he seemed like such a warm person, I didn’t want to dump him just like that -I wanted to get to know him better. Things evolved and we quickly became inseparable, but then reality started to kick in.
He lived with his controlling Muslim family and they didn’t approve that he had a non-Muslim girlfriend, so in the beginning he had to “sneak around” with me like I was a little secret. That upset me a lot and made me not trusting in him, but he explained that his family would disown him if he had a girlfriend, especially a non-Muslim girlfriend. He said he didn’t want to lose his family until he was 100% sure that I would become his wife.
Eventually as we fell deeper in love he told me that he was willing to go against his family for me, and what a big step that was. I didn’t understand any of that backwards mentality, but I tried to be patient. He said to me repeatedly: “If you converted to Islam today, I would marry you tomorrow”, but I have too much self-respect to change my identity for anyone, no matter how much I may love a person. A person should love me for who I am in the first place, but I forgave him for his ignorance. Eventually I met his family, who came across as quite fake to me, like they were trying too hard to be kind. They were nice to me, but they still nagged me about converting every time I saw them, which I thought was very inappropriate.
I am a spiritual person and I tried to make him realise that he shouldn’t live his life like that, but he had such a tunnel vision and appeared so ignorant at times. And he never read the Qur’an and done proper research of the life of Mohammad -but still he desperately clung to his beliefs! I used to call him brainwashed and we would get into huge arguments when we discussed the bigger questions in life. He wouldn’t listen to any of my beliefs, and I have read a lot of spiritual, scientific and philosophical books through the years. I just couldn’t reach through to him because he would make things up and start talking about other topics once I had proven a valuable point. And he would always say “I won this discussion” when he didn’t have any facts to back up anything. It was ridiculous and drove me crazy!
Sometimes I thought that I should just let it go and respect that he has a different view on life than me, but I was naive because I realised that Islam made him into a bad person. Everything that Islam is; Manipulative, deceiving, controlling, possessive, hypocritical, etc., was also manifesting in his behaviour! I never caught him cheating and he was never violent towards me, but he was possessive and would send “spies” after me whenever I went to a nightclub to hang out with my friends. He would also go into my email and mobile to read messages, when he had absolutely no reason to suspect that I was cheating on him. He lied a lot too, about the smallest things, and I just couldn’t understand why he couldn’t just be an honest person. That would’ve made his life -and my life, so much easier! I also found him very manipulative, always encouraging me to wear ugly, unattractive clothes (so that men wouldn’t look at me).
He lived a double life because of Islam, and he was trapped in a web of lies and deception that made himself (and me!), miserable. Islam also made him a spineless and weak man that was too afraid to stand up for what he believed in. And he was afraid to be an individual.
He was probably in love with me, but still he wouldn’t stand up for our relationship at times when his friends and family were saying something negative about me. His family did not respect me because we weren’t married and I wasn’t Muslim, and sometimes they were really mean. His sister and his brother would send me vicious text messages saying “This is only temporary. He needs to marry a Muslim woman”, etc. My boyfriend would sometimes stand up for me, but other times he would avoid confrontations which made me angry, because I felt like he should’ve defended me every single time!
So there we were, years passed on and we were still not able to progress. He wanted to marry me and he even told his whole family that he would marry me, but I just couldn’t take that risk because of numerous reasons. One of them was that I didn’t want my kids to be Muslim. Another reason is that his whole family tried to control me, pressuring me into converting, and I really dislike it when people try to control me.
But what kept me/us holding on for so long was because of the connection we had, how we laughed and played and how we forgot all our problems when we spent time together. We could just be ourselves around each other. He always played a role when he spoke to his family and friends, but he was able to relax when he spent time with me. He used to tell me that he felt so peaceful when we spent time together. I think that he was able to be his true self around me and I made him happy. He slept with his arms around me every night and he would kiss me at least 100 times every day. I felt loved most of the time, but when we had to face his friends and family, he would change.
That culture/religion caused us so many arguments and it made me feel like my opinions and needs didn’t mean anything, so after 6 years with ongoing problems, I finally left him cause I couldn’t take anymore. I want to start a happy life with a man I can have kids with. I still love him, but I love myself more and I just want to be happy. He still wants to be with me and marry me, but I don’t trust him because he is always so contradictive, he doesn’t stand up for me all the time when his family is treating me bad. He would have to leave his family, Muslim friends and Islam for it to work with me and I highly doubt that he will do that. He loves his family. That’s the complexity of the problem; he feels like I’m demanding too much from him and I’m the “bad guy” for wanting to change him, but I’m only trying to “rescue” him from the dark and oppressive influences cause I’ve seen the good in him. And even if a miracle happened and he left Islam, would he really change his ways and start thinking differently? He is 30 now and it will probably take years for him to let go of all the illusions?
I tried for 5 years to make him change his views and expand his tunnel vision, but it seems utterly impossible! Maybe I’ll give him your book as one last option, do you think that can help him change his views?
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Hello every one,
I have seen wonderful things quoted from Islam. These have opened my eyes, really, I have found in some muslim communities so horror and terrorful life of muslim women even in Phillipines. Really miserable condition is their. Thank God, my family was not so cruel.
I have decided to marry Hindu guy, he is from Hare Rama Hare Krishna Mission, very religious and told me so many good things about Hinduism. Hindus here in Phillipines are mainly business oriented community and enjoy good reputation.
I shall be marrying him through Hindu culture and then legally marriage to be registered in the court of law.
I shall also join Hare Rama Hare Krishna mission and teach my kids, if ever, hahahha, about Hindu ideals who treate wife as Goddess too.
Go to india and get marry with him. Indian mens will treat u nicely. The 7 indian men will rape u in a bus enjoy ur rape life in india
Hi Admn.
I am muslim. Born and brought up in a liberal environment.
Thanks for the reply
Hi Saimah,
You did not disclosed your religion, we assume you are Catholic, are you? Did you checked with your church, because they will want the Hindu to convert to Christianity or at least want to write a pre-Nuptial that the children will be Christians only.
How are you planning to get married by? …by a Hindu wedding where multiple Gods will be invoked from heaven, earth and water? Have you read what Bible has to say for Hindus? Are you okay with it? Are you okay if children are Hindus?
We hope he explain all these to his parents, and not planning to surprise them by showing you on their door steps. Let us know how it goes.