amritesh says: September 17, 2014 at 8:43 pm
dear admin…i hav been reading blogs on this site..my condition is similar to Prateek’s but it is worst in my case. i am a hindu and i met her (Muslim) in std 8 . now v both r 18. She raises the same question ”will u convert for me?”
yes i love her and i can go to any extent..buy y its only me who should sacrifice? doesnt she love me? shouldnt she sacrifice equally….? well she is also afraid of society and all. i respect every religion n for me love and humanity is above everything and dont respect any reglion WHICH REGARDS WOMEN “WEAK” open your mind habibi matromonials n see the truth. right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion but today it is codemned coz it is wrong.
no god has written any bible/geeta/ quaran pr watever…its we the human beings who has divided ourselves among nations, state, religions and all. now m in 12 n she is also in 12 and we r afraid to loose eachother one day becoz of all illogical things.i need help.. -Amritesh
Amritesh says: October 11, 2014 at 1:44 am
yeah sure…i.will love to share my experience….it has been five years….we met in standard VIII …in school we were best friends …we knew nothing about religions, conversions and all…
you know its india….the whole school.started making fun….they called it “attraction” …but only we both knew.what was it then and what is it now…..
we have gone through very tough time in school….still suffering……
i have completed my XII and preparing.for engineering… ..it has been many times she talked to me about future…. how shall we be getting married and all…
i told her lets complete our studies first…then we will see to it….her answer was..” mom.has started talking about getting married…finding the right match and all”…i was bit disappointed…a girl who not even completes XII….and parents ….?
well…i told her to talk and convince them…about completing studies and all…
then came the question…”WILL U CONVERT?” i just asked……”is that important?” am i not a human being?” dont v love?”….then she said…” no one will accept you….and i love my parents..people will not let my parents live in.peace…”
i agreed…and still i have no problem with any god/religion….i can convert….but i guess this is not mere conversion….its like “i hav to force my mind and body to follow every ritual(like skinning off my penis)…etc….” well i hav no.problem.doing anything….as far as it makes sense….top of dat…i have to beleive in everything without questioning …without any logic…else the so called will.send her/me to hell. punish me…. ..!
i ask all the PREACHERS(the religious politicians) …
“DID YOU GOD SAID TO YOU…”FEAR ME…IF YOU.LOVE A GUY FROM OTHER RELIGION..U WILL B SENT TO HELL..PUNISHED” BUT if u mock,hate other religions …then you wil b rewarded. sent to heaven…!!! -Amritesh
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Dear Amritesh,
First time I am joining this conversation. I have never joined such conversations. By the way I have gone through all what you said, and agreed. I know many things which are written in some holy books, those are written by a human being. See, right now if i am writing a novel or a book, I will write ‘what is in my mind ‘. Whatever I will right that would seem to be appropriate to me. As per my observations and experience I will write. Now, of my own accord the book is correct and proper. But, when the reader will read it, he’ll find something improper and some mistakes which i committed there . Yet, if he accepts all written by me. so, who is stupid? writer or reader.
It’s happening, the things are written in those books ?, either are improper and wrong by aspects, orthodox are following it. they are ready to die for it.
I just want to say to all, as we are educated enough so we must not follow something which looks improper. I know there’s a big queue to oppose us, but i think, staying on what is correct and appropriate should be the religion of one.
Thank you.
n sorry if something went wrong.
Durgesh,
Congratulations for your thought of writing a book. We are in process of finalizing a book and Rabia is also writing one on the same subject that you are writing. We will guide you and help you share your thoughts.
To start with summarize for us what you wrote “many things which are written in some holy books, those are written by a human being.”
Dear Admin,
Thank you so much for this great opportunity. I meant to say, why to follow up the some improper things even when we know those are wrong. It’s 2017 and we are living in an age of freedom, we all have freedom to go against, what is wrong. So it’s being, a change which we need to have here. I’m not saying to change any religion and culture, I’m just saying to change the way of thinking…..!
thanks
Markandey Katju on Hindusim
From his Facebook post, Here
Varna Sankar in USA
How backward most Indians are can be realized by the fact that many of even those Indians who are highly qualified engineers or doctors and have migrated and are settled in America are still very casteist.
This can be realized from an incident narrated yesterday to me by an NRI, who I have no reason to disbelieve.
In a certain city in USA ( which I will not name, to avoid identification of the persons involved ) there was a young Indian couple who fell in love, and got married.
The young man was a dalit, i.e. belonging to a Scheduled Caste ( the lowest caste in India ), while the young woman was a Brahmin ( the highest caste in India ).
The young man never disclosed to his wife that he was a dalit, probably thinking that in the West it is immaterial. He was a tall, very handsome, light skinned person, who had done very well in academics and professionally, and was working for a reputed company in USA, and drawing a good salary in 6 figures ( i.e. over 100,000 dollars a year ). His wife doted on him, and the couple was very fond of each other.
When a son was born to the couple, they threw a party to which the parents of the couple were also invited. It was there that the caste of the young man became known for the first time to the young woman and her family, when the young man’s father disclosed to the young woman’s parents that they were dalits.
This shocked the young woman and her whole family. The young woman immediately went somewhere and got some ‘gau mootra’ ( cow urine ), poured it over her head and face to purify herself, and left her son and husband forever. She later also got a divorce, and has refused to even have anything to do with her son ( probably regarding him a bastard ). The son is now living with the father.
This shows how difficult it is to change the mindset of people, even though they may have migrated to a modern country, and how deep the roots of casteism are, even among the so-called educated section of our society.
In the Bhagavad Gita ‘varna sankar’ (inter caste marriage ) is denounced in Chapter 1 shloka 42.
KULAKSHAYE PRANASHYANTI KULADHARMA SANATANAHA
DHARME NASHTE KULAM KRITSNAM ADHARMO’BHIBHAVATYUCHA
ADHARMABHIBHAVAAT KRISHNA PRADUSHYANTI KULASTRIYAHA
STREESHU DRISHTVASU VARSHNEYA JAYATE VARNA SANKARAHA
SANKARO’ NARAKAYAIVA KULAGHNANAM KULASYA CHA
PATANTI PITARO HYESHAAM LUPTA PINDODAKA KRIYAHA
O Krishna, when the family is destroyed, immemorial religious rites and rituals perish, when these perish, they fall into a state of impiety. By impiety, the women of the family become corrupt. When women become corrupt, the purity of the caste is polluted by confusion and admixture. Caste pollution leads to hell for both the family and the slayers of the family. The dead forefathers fall form the higher realms of existence being deprived of the rites of sraddha and tarpana.
So Gita upholds caste system, and clearly states that inter caste marriage leads to hell. And this is the book which the Prime Minister presents to dignitaries on his trips abroad, and a Judge of the Indian Supreme Court wanted to be made compulsory in all schools in India !
Hari Om
hey this is nice story by the way…
i can also write a novel…….would like to see one?….. 😀 ….
there will be such 1000 stories or even more than which i can narrate to you….
But those stories will have no basis in Quran and those who did this will be uneducated like you. But caste system is core teaching of Hinduism, so if you are a good hindu, you are bad in they eye of modern society.
😀 😀
the whole world knows how modern and educated you are……!!!!!
go and tune your favourite news channel.
amritesh i think you are talking about yourself 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
because you rejected investigation published in the journal Science Translational Medicine on relation between cancer and fasting. hahahhaa
Idiot, look here https://khabaristantimes.com/featured/maulana-fazlur-rehman-calls-for-military-operation-against-jeans-wearing-women/ , this is where it was published first time in 22MAY,2015, Khabristan is a satire website not real, idiot open your dictionary and find out the meaning of satire , I am damn sure you didn`t understand what satire means, otherwise you wouldn`t have replied back on that issue.
Mac….
I can understand your frustration. But I guess you always wanted a healthy debate. Right?
Okay I am an idiot.
Why you are so excited about it? Just because the news was fake or you got a point to argue and win?
////// it was a satire by pak internet daily, it was not real news, stupid Indian media took it as news, but later they apologized/////////
So is it my mistake?
See, I never give a damn to any idiot’s point of view or news by any channel or country.
It’s you who brought some idiot’s point of view. I neither believe that “killing of cow causes earthquake” or “wearing jeans or short dresses brings earthquake”. I just wanted you to understand simple things.
It’s really stupid that you believed that idiot who said “killing of cow brings earthquake”.
Killing large number of cows might disturb biological balance but it will never cause an earthquake. I guess you know this.
Now if you didn’t believe him then why did you started debating on it here? Do I look like a member of opposition party to you ?
The truth is that you are not stupid but acting stupid just because you got some point to make a mockery. You brought that conversation here just because you wanted to show you greatness here and win the argument.
Well, khabaristan is a news column of Pakistan daily. A satire.
Now the question is can you expect an anti-Islamic news from Pak? i even doubt that news was real but they made it a satire.
Regarding your debate thing. Again you are on same track. So here we go…..get ready to take snaps…..and next time don’t blabber that you wanted a healthy debate I have seen your definition of “healthy”.
I called you “son of a bitch”….
It’s you who made a statement that “hindu fuck bhabhis its is allowed”
Don’t take it personally but i m going to prove it (since u asked me to).
So according to your point of view your grandmother in law is/was a prostitute.
She was fucked by many as you said. So she is precisely similar to a bitch which is fucked by many dogs on the street.
Your mother being her daughter will also be the same…so your the son of a bitch….
Do i make myself clear?
Now regarding calling you a mother fucker. 😀
Why do you need a proof for that? Accept it as you have accepted Islam is the only religion and allah is the only god and manufacturer of everything.
If you can make such statements without valid proof. Why do you need a proof that you are a mother fucker?
But again you were saying “Hindu girl’s try to lure me” …Who knows one of them might be your mom…she is also Hindu…isn’t she?
Then I called you an asshole also? Remember?
So listen, asshole ejects shit…..this is what you have been doing here.
Blabbering all the craps and shit things.
You like this healthy conversation? 🙂
You might call it ‘unhealthy, personal attack, etc. but this is what you have been expecting all the time.
TThank you 🙂
///Well, khabaristan is a news column of Pakistan daily. A satire.
Now the question is can you expect an anti-Islamic news from Pak? i even doubt that news was real but they made it a satire.///
oh so you are so great that you doubt it was real but they made it satire, btw nice to see that you have learnt the meaning of satire, again you exposed you low thinking and mentality by asking //Now the question is can you expect an anti-Islamic news from Pak?//, it means Pakistan is so biased that they cannot make any statement against islamic preacher, well Pakistan give 5-10 jail to preacher who spread hate but in India such hate spreader like Mohan Bhagvat and his boot lickers , sankayacharja who spread hare against dalit are well respected, forget above jail.
Satire is meant to create fun and humor, just because you are prejudiced and biased and can`t think of speaking anything against your religion, you think other people are like this hahaha poor boy 🙂 🙂 🙂
And i brought the issue of mainstream hindu leader saying beef eating cause earthquake as you brought the issue of women being denied education in islam as religion, if you were honest, why didn`t you bring Hinduism? The same thing you said on me that I brought the issue of earthquake here to show my greatness will apply on you, what is the need of bringing //right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion but today it is codemned coz it is wrong. ///
you tried to show that islam is below Hinduism, you really think Hinduism has respect for women, the religion which used to burn women alive in the name of sati, forget about their education, thank god that muslim and Christians came to this country and enlightened these evil,uncultured,stupid people, if you were fair you would have brought both the religion, but lets be honest you were fair at the beginning coz you thought only islam to be really bad for women, you never expected any rebut,when i gave you rebut, you called me mother fucker.
mac
again u r twisting my words…….and coming to the same point time and again…….but whatever i explained to you either bounced off ur head or you don’t want to understand …
////////you were fair at the beginning coz you thought only islam to be really bad for women,////
i never made this statement…. i never said islam is bad for women…neither i said…”only islam”. ………….
i presented you the facts also…but u never bothered to read instead u jumped saying “you are liar”.. 😀
hey mac ….
you are definitely so you are acting mad….
/////you tried to show that islam is below Hinduism, you really think Hinduism has respect for women,/////
can u read English? (the most literate and knowledgeable person)…
show…..in my first post where i said Islam is below Hinduism? and only Hindu respect women? ……
mac…..it shows ur frustrations…….just because your loosing….you are making things up now……
if you want me to copy paste your comments again…….. i will do that…n show you who wanted to compare Islam and Hinduism
hey mac ….
you are definitely frustrated so you are acting mad….
/////you tried to show that islam is below Hinduism, you really think Hinduism has respect for women,/////
can u read English? (the most literate and knowledgeable person)…
show…..in my first post where i said Islam is below Hinduism? and only Hindu respect women? ……
mac…..it shows ur frustrations…….just because your loosing….you are making things up now……
if you want me to copy paste your comments again…….. i will do that…n show you who wanted to compare Islam and Hinduism
Idiot i never said you said islam is below Hinduism, but you tried t show in that way, if not tell me why you said this //right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion // ?
First of all, you gave a wrong information about muslim cleric and his statement on girls wearing jeans, it was satire by pak internet daily, it was not real news, stupid Indian media took it as news, but later they apologized.
mac…
are you alright? see…the problem is …u don’t want to understand a simple thing……you believe media spreads false news….only for muslims? ….now who is gonna decide what is true? …..you??
on the other hand you are ready to bash other religion on the basis of some idiot’s point of view…….but when it comes to you…ISIS , al-quaida ….etc. is nothing for u…u don’t consider them muslims..
second thing….
regarding calling a terrorist…i told “my instincts tells me u r a terrorist” of course i said this….any body will feel the same after reading your posts…..and i showed those posts also….didn’t u read?….
well…. ..i guess …i asked u few things…… i will be grateful if u answer…
thanks
Idiot, i think you don`t know the meaning of satire, can you show me the link where he said it?
“The teachings of Islam can fail under no circumstances. With all our systems of culture and civilization, we cannot go beyond Islam and, as a matter of fact, no human mind can go beyond the Quran.”
Johann Goethe, cited in Sir Henry Elliot’s Letters of Johann Goethe, 1865.
Yet another proof of Islam being 100% Truth.
FASTING COULD HELP COMBAT CANCER AND BOOST THE EFFECTIVENESS OF TREATMENT!!
Our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “There is no disease that Allaah has created, except that He also has created its cure.” [Bukhari; 7#582]
Going without food for short periods may help to combat cancer and boost the effectiveness of treatments, say scientists.
A study found fasting slowed the growth and spread of tumours and cured some cancers when it was combined with chemotherapy.
The latest investigation, published in the journal Science Translational Medicine, found that tumour cells responded differently to the stress of fasting compared to normal cells.
Instead of entering a dormant state similar to hibernation, the cells kept growing and dividing, in the end destroying themselves.
Multiple cycles of fasting combined with chemotherapy cured 20 percent of mice with a highly aggressive form of cancer while 40 present of mice with a limited spread of the same cancer were cured. By the way, research has found that none of the mice survived – if they were treated with chemotherapy alone.
See more;
http://www.naturalhealth365.com/food_news/kill-cancer.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3337872/Fasting-could-help-fight-cancer.html
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/fasting-may-help-combat-cancer-study/910052/
@ mac
I told you , you are a very bad learner.
####Yet another proof of Islam being 100% Truth.
FASTING COULD HELP COMBAT CANCER AND BOOST THE EFFECTIVENESS OF TREATMENT!!
Our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) said:“There is no disease that Allaah has created, except that He also has created its cure.” [Bukhari; 7#582]#####
Mac….first of all fasting is not a cure for cancer….for your kind information.
And people don’t fast to get cured.
Secondly…the cure for cancer is not taken from Quran.
I want you to do me a favour mac, just copy paste the verse from Quran which explains the cure for any disease. It’s really sad that you still don’t know the meaning of “proof”. Mere stating that ‘every disease has a cure’ is not a proof.
#######Even this amritesh you pointed finger on Islam and education or Muslim society or education got hurt when i pointed fingers on Hinduism and their practices, though i proved that women education is not banned in Islam, but he couldn`t prove me wrong logically what i said about Hinduism,#########
I guess we have talked about this Mac . You didn’t understand?
You proved that women education was/is not banned??
Really ? how?
Mac I never said that “it was written in Quran”….yes people don’t allow/ban.
If you need facts and figures you can Google. If I am not wrong I already pasted from Wikipedia which you didn’t read I guess.
Now you will say it doesn’t prove “banned” ….okay so answer these
Do you believe ‘Islam’ is ‘Quran’?
Have you followed everything what is written in there? Are you a true Muslim?
Mac you have been shouting Islam is 100% truth and 100 % perfect and best of all the religions.
For you the book of rules is important, but you don’t give a damn about what is being followed.
So you will claim that you’re the most knowledgeable person on this planet if you own a library.
I never shouted Hinduism is better than Islam. I never shouted that Hinduism is perfect religion. I never copy-pasted from this book and that book.
And I gave you explanation regarding religious superstitions also but you don’t understand English I guess. Although you have been claiming yourself to be literate and mature but you have failed to understand simple things.
@Aakash.
#####Thats why we say everyone is born muslim…And hence reverted…..not converted.####
Do you have evidence to support your statement? Please let us know.
I guess you also have read Quran?
Amritesh kumar, actually do you know what, i stopped replying you so that you can have peace of mind considering what is passing by you, but i think you took it as your moral victory, on many occasions i could have replied you, but i didn`t so that you don`t get upset and move on.
Now since you are here on judging me, so i here i start, take a cup of tea and be ready to face me.
mac…
###Now since you are here on judging me##
no body is judging you…..okay…….
…..
🙂 :-)….
don’t get so irritated …..
m ready to face and answer every single person like you……..the problem is you have sworn not to understand…….
i had my tea dear…and m ready…
Who called me terrorist where?
Produce proof if you can, else you will be regarded as looser and frustrated one judging others and giving name, first of all, you even don`t understand terrorism forget about judging who is terrorist and who is not.
The Eye – Tiny part of the human body and if it was a ‘digital camera’, it’d’ve 576 Mega-pixels. A 0.5 mega-pixel camera has a designer but human eye is a natural process, a great blessings from Allaah!
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• Say (unto them O Muhammad): “It is He (Allaah) Who brought you into being and gifted you with the power of hearing, seeing, feeling and understanding: yet how little ye render thanks (in return for the benefits and favors)” ~ (Quran 67:23)
• It is He, Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing (ears), sight (eyes), and hearts (understanding). Little thanks it is ye give.
~ (Quran 23:78)
• And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give! ~ (Quran 32:9)
• It is He Who brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers when ye knew nothing; and He gave you hearing and sight and intelligence and affections: that ye may give thanks (to Allaah). ~ (Quran 16:78)
• Say: “Think ye, if Allaah took away your hearing and your sight, and sealed up your hearts; which deity other than Allaah could restore them to you?” See how We explain the signs by various (symbols); yet they turn aside. ~ (Quran 6:46)
• Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to test him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight. ~ (Quran 76:2)
Agree that the eye is beautiful but why are you crediting it to Muhammad’s faith? Is it not that God created Christian eyes, Jew eyes, Hindu eyes, atheist eyes, … ?
Thats why we say everyone is born muslim…
And hence reverted…..not converted.
well said akash bro
we love this comment “Thats why we say everyone is born muslim… And hence reverted…..not converted.”
Dear admin….
Some days back her mom came to know to know about our relation.
She took her to a Maulvi……
Maulvi declared that she has done the greatest sin by loving a non-muslim guy.
He said – “this guy (me) is going to betray you, so better forget him. I will give some tabeez which will make you forget everything, n will affect him also (some kind of ‘dua’ or something) “
He asked my name and address but she didn’t tell.
She refused to tell anything about me. She got worried and depressed. She narrated me everything on phone (it’s almost 3 years v have been apart, she is in some other state).
I was shocked hearing that she believed him (maulvi)…. But when I asked her “do you really feel I will betray you?” she says “I trust you, but I am worried …I don’t want to lose you…my mom makes me feel guilty every day because I love a Non-Muslim. It’s a sin.”
I tried to convince her in every possible way and said that “your decision will be the final. This is not possible that a tabeez will make you forget everything.”
She warned me to stay safe because they might do something wrong to me (like physical harm or something). I assured her that such thing will never happen and I asked her whether I should talk to her parents. She didn’t allow me. She says “things will get worse they will never understand you and me.”
Her exams was going on that particular time so the next meeting to the maulvi has been postponed.
I told her to tell my name and everything clearly if they ask you anything.
She is religious and has superstitious beliefs so I am finding it little difficult to convince her.
It is almost impossible for us to forget everything and move on.
Amritesh……
Really sad to hear that……i think i will someday end up like u……
I have accepted it as an inevitable end….bt i deny to feel its presence to make myself comfortable……wish u luck mate…..study hard….get a good stand…..and show them what they missed for her daughter…..I m with u…….
Mail me at
“valreznov@gmail.com”
Hi mac,
You asked about our views on prostitution. This is such an open-ended question so we need to ask you first what specific you have in mind.
We are not here to set ethical standard for this world but let us share our view since you asked. Prostitution means the business or practice of engaging in sexual relations in exchange for payment or some other benefit. One could get into sexual act to save own life (like rape at a gun point), romantic relationship with a lover in an interfaith love (assuming this guy/girl is going to be my husband/wife but later turn out wrong), compulsion (hungry mother trying to feed her young ones), etc. However, at today’s world standard and in our understanding, … polygamy, sleeping with multiple partners (even that person may be the President or apostle), mutta, being in sex business simply to make money when other options are available, etc are not ethical. Again, an individual situation has to be considered.
LOL 🙂 amrtiesh, you are proving again and again that you have not matured enough for healthy debate, your last 3 or 4 comments contain nothing except personal attack, no facts, no reasoning, no logic to counter what I said.
mac…
can you explain what is “healthy debate?”
..n regarding maturity…: D 😀 look who is talking……. first u need to grow up to understand these lilltle terms baby……n will have to come out of your old religious crap…..
you have guts to say bad about others..abuse them. …then when it comes to you…….u start taking snaps 😀 😀
little busy preparing for my exams…
will b back soon …
then we shall discuss about relevant topic(s) here…..
….
Yes dear brother of mine…(u like it…lol..)
I did say that right to education was banned in muslim religion
But I apologized (which was not needed) also. I made it clear in my posts that my target was not ISLAM…..i guess you understand English ….right?
But you have no points to argue , so you are repeatedly bringing the same point to fight…..
Well let me make you understand ……
I mean to say that” in Muslim, education for females was banned/not allowed” i.e muslim parent believe that this is against their religion…..
Now…you must be thinking…”where it is written?” ..for your kind info I dont read craps…..and when did I say this is written in your book?..did I say?
Well here is something from WIKIPEDIA……..(its not edited anybody can check)
University of al-Karaouinewas founded in 859 by Fatima al-Fihri, a Muslim woman. It is the oldest, still operating Islamic university. Women in Islam, nevertheless, were rarely permitted to attend formal classes in universities, only allowed to attend religious lectures in mosque and public places
…ooops…. What you will you say….? every muslim has their own version of KORAN?
How many such books are written mac?
Which is the original one?
How many editions are available for this book? Who edited these books(if it was edited)
And which one are you referring?
This is also from Wikipedia( u forced me to copy paste…)
I have seen your point of view about women….lets c something more…
Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).”
They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?”
He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.”
The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficientin our intelligence and religion?”
Allah’s Apostle said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?”
They replied in the affirmative.
He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?”
The women replied in the affirmative.
He said, “This is the deficiency inher religion.”—Sahih al-Bukhari,1:6:301
The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The women said, “Yes.”
He said,”This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”—Sahih al-Bukhari,3:48:826
Ooops….. I guess I don’t have to say anything……
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Historically, this principle that the testimony of a man had twice the strength of a woman, was applied in financial, civil as well as criminal matters such as rape (Zina).[88][89]
In modern practice, several Islamic countries presently treat a woman’s testimony as half of a man’s, in their Sharia courts. For example, since 1979, Pakistan courts have accepted the principle that a woman’s testimony is half as reliable as a man’s per Islamic guidelines, and adopted it in practice.[129]Similarly, the law in many Arab countries gives a woman’s testimony half the weight of a man’s.[130]Domestic violence law See also:Islam and domestic violence Acceptance of domestic violence by women in some Islamic countries, according to UNICEF (2013).[131]Scholars[132][133]claim Islamic law, such as verse 4:34 of Quran, allows and encourages domestic violence against women, when a husband suspects nushuz(disobedience, disloyalty, rebellion, ill conduct) in his wife.[134]Other scholars claim wife beating, for nashizah, is not consistent with modern perspectives of Quran.[135]Some conservative translations suggest Muslim husbands are permitted ‘‘Idribuhunna’’ (use ’’light force’’) on their wives, and others claim permissibility to strike, hit, chastise, or beat.[136][137]
The relationship between Islam and domestic violence is disputed by some Islamic scholars.[136][138]In practice, the legal doctrine of many Islamic nations, in deference to Sharia law, have refused to include, consider or prosecute cases of domestic violence, limiting legal protections available to Muslim women.[139][140][141][142]
In 2010, for example, the highest court of United Arab Emirates (Federal Supreme Court) considered a lower court’s ruling, and upheld a husband’s right to “chastise” his wife and children with physical violence. Article 53 of the United Arab Emirates’ penal code acknowledges the right of a “chastisement by a husband to his wife and the chastisement of minor children” so long as the assault does not exceed the limits prescribed by Sharia.[143]In Lebanon, as many as three-quarters of all Lebanese women have suffered physical abuse at the hands of husbands or male relatives at some point in their lives.[144][145]
In Afghanistan, over 85%of women report domestic violence;[146]other nations with very high rates of domestic violence and limited legal rights include Syria, Pakistan, Egypt, Morocco, Iran, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.[147]In some Islamic countries such as Turkey, where legal protections against domestic violence have been enacted, serial domestic violence by husband and other male members of her family is mostly ignored by witnesses and accepted by women without her getting legal help, according to a Government of Turkey report.[148]
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Mac why contradictions? That original book of “the way of living “ is only with you?
And I guess I asked something over here …. I wanted to know
“ were/are females allowed i masjid and every place of worship?
Dear amritesh,
Dont be act smart. . .i guess you dont have any knowledge on islam thats what u are behaving here with mac..
Allah says in the Quran
“And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart – about all those [one] will be questioned.”
// Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women!
Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).”
They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?”
He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in
intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.”
The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficientin our intelligence and religion?” Allah’s Apostle said, “Is not
the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray
nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative.
He said, “This is the deficiency inher religion.”—Sahih al- Bukhari,1:6:301
The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The women said, “Yes.”
He said,”This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”—Sahih al- Bukhari,3:48:826//
I think u have misunderstand on this. . . Many non muslims has misunderstand on this hadith. .
This is largely due to
the fact that the Hadith
is quoted only in part
and the relevant
statement is cited out
of context. There are
other hadith about the
same incident, which
shows us the context of
the hadith in question,
Ibn `Abbas said:
•”I attended Eid prayers
with the Prophet
(PBUH), and (after his
death) with Abu Bakr,
`Umar and `Uthman. All
of them used to perform
the prayer before the
khutbah. The Prophet
(PBUH) came down
(from the minbar) – and
it is as if I can see him
now, gesturing to them
to sit down – then he
would come through the
crowd, until he reached
the women. Bilal was
with him, and he
recited: ( O Prophet!
When believing women
come to you to take the
oath of fealty to you,
that they will not
associate anything
whatever with Allah . . .)
(Qur’an 60:12) , until
the end of the ayah.
Then he said, `Are you
adhering to that?’ Only
one woman answered,
`Yes, O Prophet of Allah
(PBUH),’ and he did not
know at that time who
she was 40. He said,
`Then give sadaqah,’
and Bilal spread out his
cloak. The Prophet
(PBUH) said, `Come on,
may my father and my
mother be sacrificed for
you!’ So they began to
throw their rings and
jewellery onto Bilal’s
cloak.”
(Fath al-Bari, 2/466,
Kitab al-‘idayn, bab
maw’izat al-imam al-
nisa’a yawn al-‘id;
Sahih Muslim, 6/171,
Kitab salat al-‘idayn.)
The Prophet (PBUH)
addressed the women in
the Eid prayer-place,
reminding them about
their religion, and that
he took charity from
them, reconfirmed their
adherence to their oath
of allegiance, enjoined
them to remember the
teachings of Islam, and
motivated them to do
good works. All of this
was achieved by calling
them to attend the
congregational prayer
on both Eids. This is
indicative of the
importance of
congregational prayer
in the life of the Muslim
individual and the
Islamic society.
The Prophet (PBUH)
was concerned with the
teaching and guidance
of women, and wanted
them to play a part in
building the Muslim
society, so he devoted
part of his khutbah to
women. He would come
to the place where the
women were gathered,
and exhort and remind
them, and he made
doing this a duty of the
imam.
People always attribute
to the Prophet, peace
be upon him, the
suggestion that women
are inferior to men on
grounds of a deficient
mind a lack of faith.
This is far from true.
Let us look at the
Hadith in full: “On the
occasion of Eid, either
that of sacrifice or that
of ending the fast, the
Prophet, peace be upon
him, went to the prayer
place, and then went to
speak to women and he
said: “Ladies! I have
not seen people
deficient in mind and
religion yet can get
away with a rational
man’s mind like any
one of you.” They
asked: “How are we
deficient in mind and
religion, Messenger of
God?” He said: “Is it not
true that a woman’s
testimony counts as
half that of a man?”
When they answered in
the affirmative, he said:
“This is her mental
deficiency. Is it not true
that when a woman is
in her period she neither
prays nor fasts?” They
again answered in the
affirmative. He said:
“This is her religious
deficiency.” (Related by
Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
To start with, the
Prophet, peace be upon
him, was speaking to a
congregation of women
on a joyous occasion.
Exemplary in his care
for others, particularly
his companions, and
kind and compassionate
as he was, it is
inconceivable that he
would insult them by
such a statement, if he
meant it as a statement
of fact, like some of us
do. The Prophet, peace
be upon him, simply
used this phrase
“deficient in mind and
religion” to alert them
to what he wanted to
say to them. The
Prophet, peace be upon
him, frequently uses
such a method,
inserting some words
that may not be
relevant to the point he
wants to stress, so that
they serve to attract the
attention of his
audience. From the
other Hadith about this
occasion we saw that
the prophet wanted to
encourage women to
give alms / saqada.
Furthermore, his
statement expresses
amazement at a well-
known situation, when a
man is infatuated by a
woman to the extent
that his behavior
changes in character.
He may be wise and
intelligent, yet he could
easily behave in a way
that is inconsistent with
his intelligence and
wisdom when he is so
infatuated. This is a
case where a woman
who is generally weaker
than a man can control
him.
The Hadith mentions
that the Prophet’s
women audience asked
him to clarify what he
said. His clarification
pinpoints certain
aspects that suggest no
inferiority whatsoever.
The mental deficiency is
related to the fact that
in certain cases, two
women witnesses are
required in place of
one-man witness. This
has to do with the role
of each of the two sexes
in Islamic society. It is
no reflection on a
woman’s mental ability.
As for religious
deficiency, the Prophet,
peace be upon him,
states the fact that a
woman is exempt from
prayer and fasting when
she is in menstruation.
While God gives a
woman the reward for
prayer and fasting as if
she has done them,
since she stops only
because of her
condition and in
response to God’s
orders, still the fact that
she does not fulfill
these duties means that
her worship is less in
terms of what she
offers. It does not mean
that she is a lesser
believer.
As for a relevant
statement of fact in this
regard, the Prophet,
peace be upon him,
says, “Women are full
sisters of men.” In the
Arabic text, the
Prophet, peace be upon
him, uses here a word,
which implies total
similarity and
equivalence. Hence, the
Prophet’s statement
suggests no inferiority
attached to women. The
Qur’an and the Sunnah
assign the same duties
to both men and
women, and promise
them the same reward.
If this does not mean
the same status, I
would like to know what
does.
May I add here that the
translation of this
Hadith as quoted is
wrong, because it splits
the relevant sentence
and gives the Prophet’s
words in such a way
that they appear to
make a statement of
fact. This is wrong, as I
have explained.
As for the other part, a
full translation of it
goes as follows: “‚I
have seen hell and I
have never seen any
thing more horrific than
what I saw then. I also
saw that the majority of
its dwellers are women.
‚ They asked: “On what
grounds, Messenger of
God? He said: “By their
denial.‚ They said:
“Their denial of God?
‚ He answered: “No.
Their denial of their
spouses and their
denial of kindness. You
may be kind to one of
them all the time, but
when she finds fault
with you she says: I
have never received any
kindness from you. ‚”
To start with, the
Hadith does not say
that most women are in
hell. It says that the
majority of hell dwellers
are women, which
simply signifies that
more women fail in this
worldly test than men.
Then the Prophet, peace
be upon him, points out
their failure, which is
not based on denying
God. Rather, it is
denying kindness,
particularly in marital
situations. The Prophet,
peace be upon him, has
pointed this out in more
than one Hadith,
warning women against
grumbling and frequent
complaints. He is also
warning them here
against denying
kindness by their
husbands, highlighting
a failing that is often
expressed in denying
past kindness.
The Hadith shows that
women can easily avoid
such a destiny by being
fair and appreciative of
kindness. They should
always be grateful to
God for what He has
given them and also be
appreciative of any
kindness done to them
by others, particularly
those with whom they
live, be they their
husbands, parents or
other relatives.
see also
http://
http://www.ourdialogue.com/
Ws1.htm
and
http://
http://www.islamonline.net/
livefatw…hGuestID=j2y
56m
Dear readers, you can read here who started all this abuse. Click here
@ mac
so again you are on the same track……twisting my words n diverting to religion
well i am atheist…… so? if i was born in HINDU i cant be athiest? …
and mac if i am atheist ……it doesn’t mean i start hurting others beliefs n faith……@ mac
so again you are on the same track……twisting my words n diverting to religion
well i am atheist…… so? if i was born in HINDU family i cant be athiest? …
and mac if i am atheist ……it doesn’t mean i start hurting others beliefs n faith……
i guess you have some problem understanding things……because of two reasons
1) u divert everything to religion and try to prove yourself great
2) you believe in winning the argument at any cost…(so u can go to any extent)
here also u have twisted my words n diverted it religion…
i guess you have some problem understanding things……because of two reasons
1) u divert everything to religion and try to prove yourself great
2) you believe in winning the argument at any cost…(so u can go to any extent)
here also u have twisted my words n diverted it .
“If you don`t believe in after life punishment then it`s your problem, this is what criminals say, they don`t believe in afterlife punishment too that`s why they commit rape,murder,etc, it`s obvious that fanatic Hindus are not like mahatma Gandhiji that`s why a fanatic hindu killed Mahatma Gandhi, that now that fanatic hindu,Natahuram Godse is worshiped by many Hindus, can you imagine?…”
Now listen
What i actually mean by “TIT FOR TAT”
Will you let people rape your sister,murder your family…?while they are doing this..u will pray to god “oh god punish them…in the next life”… Will you do that mac? No?, right?
So i also won’t pray to god… I will rape the rapist n kill the kill the murderes….as i did ….when u abused hindus commonly(atheist could b a hindu a human being)n look at you…u don’t remember also “when did u say that?” …now when its you turn you started preaching me about humanity….. First you have started to fuck…now open wide and be ready to get “fucked”….. so don’t prhttps://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8129each now…
Now dont say you are mentally ill….or accept you are a liar…..read it
Here….https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8129
And this is you mac
https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=9352
Now….i guess everything is answered…now dare not to utter a single word here…..because i don’t fear god…..
So you were human?, and after all these you expect to b a human with you……????
Dear amritesh, in those two blog, i didn`t say anything bad, admin from all different sources compiled one comment, will you please point out any single abusive words from here https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=9352 and here https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8129
well you are atheist, but i have snapshots of your comments where you said you are hindu and defended idol worship, i have many atheist friends, atheist defending idol-worship is like a saying sun goes round the earth. LOL 🙂
///and mac if i am atheist ……it doesn’t mean i start hurting others beliefs n faith…///
don`t run away, it`s you who started by saying “right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion “
///i guess you have some problem understanding things……because of two reasons
1) u divert everything to religion and try to prove yourself great
2) you believe in winning the argument at any cost…(so u can go to any extent)///
you are wrong, i don`t divert, it`s how i answer your question to the point, i don`t believe in winning argument, i believe in truth,logic,reason,facts. What I said about Hindus are from Hinduism, if you want to prove me wrong , then produce your proof that i am wrong on what i said on Hinduism and Hindus.
/////Will you let people rape your sister,murder your family…?while they are doing this..u will pray to god “oh god punish them…in the next life”… Will you do that mac? No?, right?///
well my religion has clear rules, rape,murder is punishable to death in islam, now here is the biggest question, if a man kills 5 person, how many time will you give him death penalty, if a man rapes 5 women and 3 of them dies, then how many times will you punish him, without many argument, we can surely say he will get punishment once, for him to get full punishment, it needs afterlife punishment, Hitler killed 6 million Jews, how many times will you punish him, a man kills one person, he gets death sentence for once, a man kills 44 person and he also gets death punishment for once, that means it`s not fair logically.
///Now….i guess everything is answered…now dare not to utter a single word here…..because i don’t fear god…..///
hahah what i got to do with you not fearing god? ha
And if you don`t fear god , it`s your problem, when you die then you say this, then even your mobile will not work there hahaha “i don`t fear god” !
////Thank you every1 for your kind response and suggestions ……..i will always welcome sensible suggestions from my dear friends if they suggest without “advertising “alreligion and god.///
then you should have cared before saying insane things like “right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion” on internet.
////It’s good that you are muslim and you are perfect in all aspects…… I am sorry….forget about being a muslim…i never want to be such person in life…
Mac you keep learning and become a great scholar but i guess you will never b a good human.///
tell this to your parents, your friends who worship such gods, why you are telling this to me?
To both Akash and Amritesh, both of your name begins with A, both of your names end with sh , you both are of same age, you both are in love, you both are non-muslim(hindu), but you both are in love with a muslim girl, so both don`t fight with each other, instead help each other and also only difference is that Akash is now a muslim by heart.
Absolutely correct…..i whole heartedly want to help Amritesh….
@mac
man-made and he are two different things mac..u need to learn english for that…when you say “he” its quite clear that u r refering to a “male” …whatever it is…..
well again i will say..i have nkt read any book..i believe in reality and fact….yes many muslim family still dont send girls to school…….
n i will ask one more question ….
“are/were females allowed in masjid?”…
Dear bro. .
what do u have any problem regarding to the religion?
you can ask me any questions regarding to any religion. . i will answer you…
dont be frausted.,
iam so busy on todays schedule thats why iam not replying here properly. ..
Amritesh…..tu bahut galli diya mac bhai ko…ab sun meri baat…
Dnt be decieved by my sirname..aur ek baat…mereko english sikhane ki koshish mt krna kuki babu mai IEO aur IOEL ka zone topper hu…toh jo bhi ho tere se mai english zyada hi janta hu….samjha…
Lets get back to the main topic…I m in 12th as well and would be joining college this year…meri situtation is almost same…bus frq itna hai ki mai tension free hu kuki me and my girl…we trust each other and love each other like mad lovers….rahi baat meri…mereko naukri lagegi 30 lakh ki…toh obviously uske papa mujhe mana nahi karenge …afterall they want their daughter to be happy…khair rahi baat religion ki…I love Islam….so i dnt have any problem in accepting it..infact i will…
Bt all in all…sb uske haath me hai….if she keeps things cool…things will turn out to be awesome….which i am sure they will…
Aur uske papa aur mum bhi educated types hai toh there’s a better chance…more like a 95% ki wo mere liye dikkat nahui karenge…
Rahi baat teri..tu dekh le…beta ki teri ladki tujhe gadha na bana de last me….i mean..tere ko chutiya bana k kisi aur se shadee kr li….:-D
i mean tera confidence level dekh k to mujhe shk hai ki aisa hi kuch hoga bhi……
Samjha saale dhakkan…..dusro ko gaali dene se pehle soch liya kr ki tu hi akela nahi hai jise gaali aati hai….abhi english me gaali nahi diya hu…coz respect krta hu teri entiments ko…….good luck…..dhakkan…
Btw….appart from being good in studies…i am a good singer….a good badminton player….an artist…a poet….and yeah….dikhne me bhi bura nahi hu…toh mera toh meri gf k saath set hai…tera tu samjh…chutiye…
And frnds…pardon me for my spelling mistakes coz i am using a samsung galaxy y handset…jo ki amritesh ki tarah ekdum arogant and useless phone hai…is liye ulta seedha likha jaa raha hai….Gustakhee maaf kijiyega..
Hmmmm…aur meri fikr chor tu……kaun kisko chutiya banaga wo dekha jaega…..aur mai tere cirtificates ka achar dalaunga kya be?!
Achcha tu jb bol raha ki u wouldnt have any problem in geating over ur gf….then where lies the problem…ge site un llog k liye hai jo apni wali se shadee krna.chahte hai at all costs……. Toh tu bina mtlab idhar udhar galiya ku de raha……..??
Aur mai religious terms me jaana nahi chah raha kuki teri baat sahi hai ki hum religion pr.fight na.krke tujhe suggestion de…..
Teri gf kya bol rahi is matter pe?? Aur uske mum dad ka background.kaisa hai??
@ aakash mallik
.good to know that u r concerned about your friend’s feelings…but dont be biased….ask ur friend who has started offensive/abusive words…….and i will suggest you better read his all posts….don’t directly jump on conclusions….
regarding your suggestion “sorry bhai..tapori logo se suggedtion lena meri fitrat me nahi”….
and dont get me wrong…i never said that i am leaving her or giving up…..it started in VIII STD n for last 2 years we have been separated since her father got transferred to some other state….so u can understand our relation……
….mai oosey jabardasti haasil nahi karna chahta….na hi chahta ki wo meri wajah se poori lyf guilt me jeeye…….
q ki i can c every1s belief …” they are calling her a sinner”….i can’t change people’s mentality n she is also ‘god fearing’..so i am having a tough time to convince her…..yes i said to her ” in my life it will be you or no one” she also says the same thing..
@ akash mallik..
i guess u r mentally retarded……u have proved in your comments….
aur mai tere surname pe nahi gaya tha….yeh to teri soch hai….chooo…can’t help it
abey chootiye gaali tere ko nahi di thi….teri jal q rahi hai itni?….aur mai k baaki posts padh baad me baat karna……samjha….
aur tu jo v ho….i dont care man…..
aur teri mentality bata rahi ki tu abhi kaafi bachcha hai…..naukari,paisey blah blah blah…se tu samjhat hoga ki rishtey bantey……
aur mai bhaag nahi raha oos k peechey….to b honest its she who approached me…..n again i am repeating if she wants..i will let her go..
aur tujhe kya pata hai hamarey relation k baare me dhakkan? aisey hi judge mat kar……aur tu apne talents bata k kya prove karna chahta hai…? yeha pe v koi loser nahi baitha hai…..rahi baat proof ki …to blog pe bhaunkna mujhe nahi aata…..q mujhe pata hai mai kya hu…….aur tu khud pe mat le…tujhe kisi ne kaha hi nahi…..bete jab tu ne taang adaai to ab phut q rahi hai? …aur mujhe teri har language me jawab dena aata hai dhakkan……ab ja…ookhad le
@ aakash mallik…
ek aur baat akash bhai…..mere gf mujhe chootiya banay ya na banay …teri jaroor tujhe banaygi….dhakkan
q ki jo tu apna aap ko bahot bada top samjhta hai ” 30 lakhs..(jab mile tab bolna).,rockstar,sports star,etc.” .ees ki wajah se tera rishta kaafi strong hoga……….galat-fehmi me hai tu…..tere se bade bade rockstar supertsar aur paisey wala hai yaha….bacha k rakhna.. jis din tere se acha mila…teri ko chootiya jaroor banaygi teri gf…….to mera tere jaisa relationship nahi h…..
zyada bhadak mat….mere andar v shailab hai……apna e-mail id bhej dena…apne certificates v bhej doonga……
LOL……seriously?? Itni zyada jal gayi teri saale….ab tu soch mac ko kaisa laga hoga jb tu bina baat gaali diya tha unko…..aur tere se bht pehle se mac ko mai jaan raha hu….toh mereko mt smjha ye sb…..
Fights aside…..agr itni hi problem ho rahi samjhne me….to mera seedha meaning ye tha ki if both of u are well educated then cheeze difficult nahi hongi……jiska tune bara filmy meaning nikal liya….LOL…….dekh mere se ladai krke na toh teri gf ko kuch milega…aur na hi tujhe…..usse achcha mere se baate discuss kr….sahi bata raha hu…tu almost same situation me hai…….
Aur peeche ht jaega toh tu looser nahi samjdaar hoga….aur agr ab bhi ego satisfy krne k liye ladai krni hai toh krta reh……mere exams khatam hai..toh mere paas time hi time hai…..
Amritesh…
Bhai tu toh personal le liya…..gussa na kr…chal mai apni galti maan raha hu…Baat ye hai ki dosto ki bht kdr karta hu mai….maaf kr na re…..dekh tu bola ki mai bachcha hu…toh tu ek bachcje se kaise gussa ho skta hai be…..
Mai samjh raha hu tera situation…dekh tera frustration kis baat pr hai wo bhi smjh raha hu mai…….toh tu baat maan….aisa bhi ho skta hai ….mai hi wo love guru nikal jau jo teri love life set kr de….calm down…aur thora achche se bata mereko……….
Oh….so it’s me who insulted mother? Oh…I am really sorry…..do you respect your mom?
Buddy have you read your earlier comments before posting?(not only here other blogs also)
“HINDUS FUCK BHABHI’s “was this statement mine?…if you say HINDUS fuck BHABHI’s then think about yourself. Who is your mother? Not a Hindu? How she was born?
Yeah…there were spelling mistakes so? Are you the great Shakespeare? And you would have known that there is something called as “auto-correct” in android devices….i didn’t type the full word and it got autocorrected. Don’t act like kids when they see teachers making a small mistake on board they get a chance. LOL.. if you were a smart student you would have understood the meaning of it. Anyways that was irrelevant. Like you have used “you got no IOTA”but I didn’t laugh.
Earlier you made statement that you were physics student, but you failed understand even the meaning of it. You have been shouting “proof, proof, proof”….and you don’t even know the literal meaning of it.
So I guess it’s you who need some elementary education. I showed man…I showed whatever you said …how you have been contradicting yourself. You better read the previous post again.
You think I abused you? Those abusive words are illogical? I am sorry, so you believe that you are a human? You are born from womb of normal Human? I am sorry I still have doubts regarding that.
You said so typical fanatic Hindus…. And what are you? i am really sorry can you explain what does it mean? MUJHE ANGREZI THODI KAM AATI HAI……
Hey I have not read GEETA, KORAN or any religious book and I am not believer in GOD who is created by humans. Now you will say “look at this hindu fellow what he is blabbering, nonsense idiot, polytheist how can he say that?”…… well this is what narrow minded people think.
Yes i was born in hindu family it doesnt mean you start judging me or anyone on basis of religion.
One more thing Mac you felt offensive for abusive words? OOooo lay le-le-le …..mela baby….why?… U must have thought before abusing HINDUS commonly…..and yes i dont believe in your after life punishment by god n all….so my principle is “TIT FOR TAT” ….n for you ur kind info “mai mahatma gandhi nahi hu”
Note: there were some spelling N grammtical mistakes in my previous post (like it should be’ beliefs ‘ instead of ‘believes’) i hope sensible people will understand
n also i forgot to “close bold ” after the word “mere”…..
.coz m using a 4” phone …it happend
Dear Friends,
Dont use any abuse words.. . we are here to learn and gain knowledge. . .
Dear bro..
ask me any question regarding to any religion including islam. ..
dont be fraustrated.. be cool… dont listen to mac bro,if he harms u. .
u can ask if u have any problem about any religion…
In Sha Allah ,.i will provide u answer correctly. . .
dont say anything if u dont have the knowledge
Allah says in the Quran
in surah isra chapter 17 verse 36
“And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart – about all those[one] will be questioned.”
@ mohammed
thnx for ur kind response…….
bro…i dont have any problem with any religion …. actually …., unfortunately or unfortunately i love some1 who is a human being……..and according to some people here…it is the greatest sin i have done……….coz she is a muslim and i am a hindu….by birth
so instead of understanding my situation people people saw a word “muslim” there….and thought i am targeting their religion……..
sorry i dont have time for religious stuffs…….
its all about her happiness ….if she is not happy with a hindu….i will let her go….i don’t want to make fake promises to her that:
i will accept islam n follow every rules and rituals (which my mind and body is not ready to accept )
yeah, even just to make her happy if i accepts everything it will be a sin and she will feel guilty that she has relationship with a hindu
i am trying my best to make her understand to go with her parent’s decision…..
but i have failed to do so……
It is pointless to debate on who is the creator of our universe at this point of time. We humans are incapable of determining the ultimate driving force that control each and every aspect of our universe.So obviously it is useless to discuss such topic. Lets leave this discussion aside and hope that each of us follow the religion that is most needed for the hour ie. humanity. Each of us should inculcate good things from all the religion and lead a better life. Let the myths perish. And surely we can have heaven on the earth.
@amritesh…
i am a gud frreind of urs… i knw u nd ur gal very well… i evn knw how much ull both luv each oder…how much she luvs u….just tell her once…that she shud convince her parents to let her marry u… Allah wants his followers to remain happy nd it would be no sin if ull both get married wid each other… love has no religion… love infact is a gift from almighty to all the living creatures…. we should enjoy it without bringing any barriers in between…Remember…. if she loves u truly she will surely agree wid u nd wont care of conversion drama…and if her parents truly love her, they will respect her decision…
Regarding this case a change in the mindset of ppl is really required. India is a developing economy. It is being compared to other most powerfull countries in da world.But such mindsets(religion,caste,myths etc) restrict our development. Inspite of me being a science student nd being sorrounded by athiest (yes 2 of my freinds are athiest ), I am a firm believer of God. Not becouse I am scared of Him or scared of going to hell but as a mark of respect I to that peculiar FORCE which is driving our entire universe. Since I am born to a Hindu family I worship Ganesha. If christian i wouldve worshipped Jesus or Allah if have been born to a muslim mother.
We should neglect these illogical divisions of our mankind and move on.
Dear brother Siddhant,
Why it is pointless to discuss who is the creator of the Universe? please explain.
Though you gave your point but I like to know more why you think so..
And as you said
/// We humans are incapable of determining the ultimate driving force that control each and every aspect of our universe///,
I agree with you and if I say this is why creator(God/Allah/Ishwar/Bhagwan) sent us guidance, you should look for guidance, tell me when you buy something like mobile,car,tablet,etc the manufacturer or the creator of that instrument/device give you user manual, then why it is illogical to believe that god who created us send us guidance on what is wrong and what is right.
You said ///Allah wants his followers to remain happy nd it would be no sin if ull both get married wid each other… love has no religion…//
brother love is emotion, it is not religion, you are right here but as you said if she(Muslim) marries amritesh then it is not sin, it is not about she marrying amritesh, it is about whether she is obeying Allah`s commandments or not, Marriage in Islam is part of practicing religion, prophet said marriage completes half of the deen(means religious obligation) and in Quran God clearly ordered muslim not to marry a polytheist(Hindus), bcoz it is better for a Muslim, polytheist are sinners as they worship other things beside creator(Allah/god/Bhagwan) and as Islam is Monotheistic religion it is completely against Polytheism.
Allah is in Quran clearly commanded us Muslim not to marry a polytheist men or women, here is the verse
Quran Chapter 2 ; Verse 221
“And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.”
You can read here is details why Islam is against marriage with Polytheist(Hindus) http://islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1937-she-married-a-hindu-problems
You said ///love infact is a gift from almighty to all the living creatures///
Even Quran confirms that love is a gift from the almighty, here is the verse from Quran :
Quran Chapter 30; Verse 21
“And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.”
but there are people who donot worship almighty, instead they worship false gods like men made murti, kings,prophets and true god don`t like worshipping others beside true god, so god told us clearly in Quran not to marry a polytheist men or women until they accept the true god.
Now you may object to why god is against the idea of marrying a polytheist and what is polytheist and why islam is against polytheism, I will discuss it in the next comment…
@mac
Are comparing Allah to a product manifacturer??
are u saying that the holy Quran is a user manual??
And u speak of guidance…
Let me tell you freind…pls do not be under the impression dat so called ‘guidence’ is only in the Quran. Have you tried reading Bhagwat Geeta or Holy Bible? Please do read it.
U speak of Hindus worshipping Idols.
Yes we do worship idols. It might be silly for you Muslims.
But ur practise of circumcision is also wierd for us.So also killing a goat for the almighty also is an illogical thingto do .And many other such practises which are simply illogical.
Every religion has thier own ways. It does not mean that we should disrespect other peoples beliefs. If being poliathiest was a sin and if Allah was the most powerfull then there would not hav been such divisions in the world at all. All people wouldve have been Islam followers and Non islam people wouldve been in hell. But we are still here 🙂 happy..
Few days ago I had read one line in one of the site which read
“All muslims are not terrorists but why all terrorists are muslims?”
It left me thinking for next few minuites…
Why are these terrorist people in the name of “JIHAD” killing so many innocent people??
“WAS THIS WHAT THEY LEARNT AFTER RECIEVING THE SO CALLED GUIDENCE?”
Ok I wont discuss more on this topic. I do not want to enter into this high voltage religious debates. According to me a person should not criticise other peoples beliefs. And I am sorry if I hurt your sentiments. Infact I respect muslim people and some of thier practises (especially no alcohol consumption).
U people instead of giving amritesh advice on his love life are trying to prove the superiority of your religions. As i said earlier this topic will never end and we wont be able to find the answer.
@ amritesh
Do what I say… She is your girl… Let da girl take her decision…convince her… just mere conversion of you from hindu to muslim is a useless thing to do… It is just like “inspite of having a book, you are buying a new book but of different authors” 😛 Both the books are same and teach us almost same thing ie. humanity. The basic ideas remain the same.
Siddhant said “Becouse I am one of those who practise humanity and believe in science. ”
So you practice humanity, what humanity got to do with me telling you what islam really is, bro Islam is for humans not for animals. The moral teachings that are spelled out in Quran can only be followed by a Good Human being. Let me give you example:
Quran says :
Speak kindly [The Noble Quran 2:83]
Speak the truth [The Noble Quran 3:17]
Speak justice [The Noble Quran 6:152]
Speak not in vain [The Noble Quran 17:23]
Speak fairly [The Noble Quran 17:28]
Speak politely [The Noble Quran 17:53]
Speak gently [The Noble Quran 20:44]
Speak no lie [The Noble Quran 22:30]
Speak graciously [The Noble Quran 20:44]
Speak straight [The Noble Quran 33:70]
If you kill one innocent human beings, it is as if you have killed entire Humanity and whoever saves a life has saved entire humanity [The Noble Quran 20:44]
Here is the direct quote from Quran:
“Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
Now if they don`t obey Islamic teachings is it fault of Islam or fault of that particular individual who is committing that act???
I am asking you are the above teachings against Humanity??
And you said you believe in science but you fired me for saying Hinduism has myth??
mac,
Polio vaccine has clear merits to it and ALL health authorities have strongly advocated taking it. However, except WHO (for keeping Afrikaners in mind), no other health authority has recommended circumcision. In America, now less and less people go for circumcision, why? Uncircumcised Japanese don’t have any issue noted, why? There is very limited merits of circumcision for people following good hygiene. Yes, a few child have phimosis issue and they should get partial surgical opening of the skin, but not all boys irrespective of a need.
Circumcision is your superstition, not science.
mac, most of your questions have been answered at https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=460. Get back to us there.
I have read your article before, and take my above reply as answer to your article on circumcision. I have come with facts not superstition.
Marriage is not a playground where the ego thoughtlessly pursues its vanities. It is an institution that helps a man and a woman pursue the purpose of their creation: to glorify and worship Allah and to work, within the extent of our capabilities and resources, to make the world a better place for those we share it with and for those we will leave it to.
—Imām Zaid Shākir
Love proselytism is also wrong. People who uses love to lure innocents and to expand religion should be exposed.
And if the guy or the girls want to convert then?
We do not have problem with conversion but using love as a tool to lure innocent girls and then converting them is wrong.
If that wrong has anything to do with me or my religion Islam.
My instinct tells me that Mac is working for some terrorist group. After his posts and comments its quite clear he is trying to provoke people in the name of religion and god.
In my first post its quite clear that I didn’t target any religion. In fact my target was Habibi matrimonial who said that “women are weak”, my target were those people (like mac) who says all religions are different, this religion is useless, this religion is superior of all…and all that shit…
People of this kind are threat to the society. They make people blind, force them to follow all the outdated and nonsense rules and laws by creating fear of god/religion.
Why should I trust or respect such god who tells that ”Jews/Christian/Hindus are dishonest useless”
All humans are different, loving a human is a sin.
Shouldn’t I respect and believe in Science for telling me that there is no difference between us.
We all are HOMO SEPIANS, we all have common ancestors. For helping us to live, grow and progress without any discrimination. Even nature and all natural things for that matter.
Mac do these plants, birds animals also read some Quran or some religious book? Do they have also to follow all your rules and laws?
We were also animals(we are actually animals), we grew and evolved and have learnt to read and write.
i will recommend. a book for u mac..written by dan brown..THE DA VINCI CODE.. BEFORE U DTART READING READ THE FACTS…IT WILL OPEN UR EYES…THE BOOK ON WHICH U R ARE SWARING…IS PRODUCT SOME RELIGUOUS POLTICIAN IN PAST…the true history is not revealed. in ur so called “book”
A great point, “Why should I trust or respect such god who tells that ”Jews/Christian/Hindus are dishonest useless”.
Koran states: “Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than God’s apostle (4:171). Allah forbids that He Himself should beget a son! (19:34). Further, those who say: “the Lord of Mercy has begotten a son” preach a monstrous falsehood (19:88). Unbelievers are those that say: “God is the Messiah, the son of Mary” (5:70) and “God is one of three” (5:72). Unbelievers will get “Hell of Fire.” Further, Allah told….”Believers, take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends.” (5:51)”
Here we are not saying Koran has limitations while other religious books are perfect. ALL religious books have limitations, one need to learn to take best and leave the rest for others.
Amritesh, what is progress on your love?
LOL, which god tells that jews.hindus,christians are useless, you are making things up…
And admin what wrong in these verses ///“Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than God’s apostle (4:171). Allah forbids that He Himself should beget a son! (19:34). Further, those who say: “the Lord of Mercy has begotten a son” preach a monstrous falsehood (19:88). Unbelievers are those that say: “God is the Messiah, the son of Mary” (5:70) and “God is one of three” (5:72). Unbelievers will get “Hell of Fire.” Further, Allah told….”Believers, take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends.” (5:51)”//////
**Whats wrong in saying Jesus was not god, Jesus(peace be upon him) never said he was god, he always said all glory belongs to father.
**whats wrong in this verse , can you please explain ///Unbelievers are those that say: “God is the Messiah, the son of Mary” (5:70)///
***///Unbelievers will get “Hell of Fire./// why shouldn`t they get hell fire, when believers worshiped him for all their life, unbeliever kept on sinning saying got begetted a son and that son will save us rather than doing good deeds,believing in one god
And what you mean by this verse //”Believers, take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends.” (5:51)”/// , can you explain it as you said earlier you have read Quran, i am waiting for your answer, if you can`t then i will reply 🙂
Hey Amritesh,
I am sorry for not replying earlier, recently I haven’t been too active on this site. I see in the above comments that the discussion has gone completely haywire.
I need a update on your situation, then I would be able to advise you.
Thanks.
Note to admin :
Please make some system so that I get replies to my posts in my inbox.(Notifications)
Best would be to visit your page weekly.
Also there are many other youths needing your guidance, this is Godly work!
Okay.
Yes, this is godly work.
Also, I want to bring an organization to your attention called “Love commandos” based in India. They believe in love and marriage with equality and they help couples in distress against honor killings.
Thanks.
Yes, please put in touch with them, we would love to help youths in need.
Thnx for ur response..actually i have been busy. These. Days so was unable to interact….
Dear admin
today i read almost every post and blogs on this site…my feelings…i just cant express in words……
my mind raises lots of questions and heart is full of hatred to all the religious bastards who has been dividing and misguiding people all the time…
ARE WE HUMAN BEINGS?
LIVING IN A CIVILIZED WORLD..
WHERE BASTARDS LIKE “MAC” LIVES?
they are not just dividing people in the religion…they are the real criminals of the society…
this religion.and god thing has reached such a level where there are no.human values?..
physical assualts..???..beating women..if she doesnt follow a religion/ritual
.. ???
if it is true….then there is no crime in chopping their headsoff …..i will happily do such a ‘crime.’..i will kill one such person everday ….even if am hanged
You should read Koran to understand mentality of mac.
The issue is PLURALISM verses EXCLUSIVISM. If you got bothered by exclusivism, instead of taking violent steps, please join us right here to guide interfaith dating youths to settle for nothing but pluralism.
Tell us development into your love relationship. Can you convince her to be a pluralist?
hahha buddy keep cool, don`t be a <b.hypocrite, on one hand you said you had read all the comments and posts on this site and on the other hand your anger is on me as you can`t reply my questions, i know buddy i knwo it happens when one belongs from a religion which has no answers like hinduism, i joined this sire april-may this year where as this site is from 2009 and thousands of anti-islamic,hatred towards muslims are there in this site which doesn`t bothers you, now i again fot proof why quran tells us not to marry mushrik,ifolators,pagans,murtipujak like you as you don`t know how to act justly and god hates those who lies,act unjustly, and you are doing this thats why she can`t marry you a you don`t deserved to be a husband of a beileving muslim girl, better correct ytourself and then think about marrying her.
Mac u shut your mouth…whateva you ate blabbering is nonsense..first you learn to be a human being..then talk to me..
If she also thinks the way you do…o hhappily let her go to heaven orbwhateva you call…
Dont give me evidences and facts…cozi am not a fool like you..everybody knows the truth well..
If u hav brain and eyes to see..just read the conversation properly..
Its u who had been hypocrite,liar,nonsense..if you think you are not..then keep going..
You will surely reach to heaven 😀 lol..
LOL calling others idiot,liars don`t make you a graet scientist, any civilised,educated person will know who lied, your first post is a lie that in muslim religion women education was banned, hypocrties bark, everyone knows it, anyway, you are advising me to be human, lol, you said to me mother fucker and trying to show humnaity, you uncivilised undergraduate, you even don`t respect mother, how dare you called me “mother fucker”.
have a look on this…
lol….
“”i can only give you information on islam and comparative religion, please don`t ask such non-sense, i think you are a hindu guy trying to defame me”
lol…..
i cant stop.laughing….mac u must b a comedian…!!!!
now i realise i.have wasted my time….
first you know yourself…who r u okay…
poor guy…. mac….!!!!
mac
i.have read all your posts…on this site..now
i understand you better….the hatred in your mind for others….feeling of insecurity regarding your religion…swaring on koran….copy/pasting things from here and there…mocking others…trying to.prove everything wrong and you yourself right….this is what has been reflected in your all.posts…
see …no one is your enemy my dear friend…
relax
sit back for some time in peace …and asku yourself ….
1.WHO.AM I?
A HINDU/MUSLIM/CHRISTIAN OR HUMAN BEING?
2.WHO ARE THE PEOPLE AROUND ME?
3.WHO IS GOD…IS THERE ONLY ONE GOD/RELIGION?
4.WHAT WAS THIS WORLD?HOW WAS IT.
5.HOW DO WE EVOLVED..?
6.WHO.IS.THE FIRST PERSON WHO.TAUGHT YOU REGARDING GOD/RELIGION.?
7.WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF WARS/CONFLICTS BETWEEN NATIONS/RELIGIONS AND ITS CONSEQUENCES?
8.HOW DID LIFE ORIGINATED ..?
and plz this time come with some logical answer
first of all you want logical answer from me where as you don`t answer any logical questions,any way i will answer, don`t worry
amritesh bro, i may be wrong in this case may be right, i am not like you but this is hindu behaivour, they bomb blast in muslim mosques and blame it on muslims to start fight, same way few days ago they said one hindu girl was gang raped by muslims, now that hindu girl is saying that nothing happened with her and it was hindu leaders who gave her Rs. 25,000 to tell such lie to defame islam and muslim, here is the news http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/BJP-man-gave-Rs-25000-to-kin-of-girl-who-alleged-love-jihad/articleshow/44819327.cms so in this case also i thought some one is trying to defame me and muslim boys image as this website is doing this from 2009, beacuse all eforts to defame islam, muslim has been debunked by me with valid facts,refrence from quran and hadith, have a good day, i have more such things to post how hindus did bad things int he name of muslim to defame islam because they know they can`t beat islam neither theologically nor comparing it with any hindu religious book, so these type of conspiracy theories
And why don`t you give a single good things of hinduism or whatever you follow over islam,</b< keep searching, you will not find a single goodness of hinduism over islam, its fact.
Again you are stuck with that nonsense well what if I say that girl was paid by Muslims to do so..?
Coz ultimately Hinduism is blamed not your Islam..
“Defame” just shut your mouth poor creature..are you famous? Lol…
I dont know what you blabber is Right/wrong but you only hav been trying to defame other religions all the time..did you realise…i dont give damn to any religion but when blabber something plz make some sense..
Now i dont have more time to waste for fool like you..you just blabber …i dont care
lol. no pboblem if you don`t care me, i never said u to care abt me,
that girl was given 25,000 by hindu bjp leadrers and she said she lied again her muslim bf in pressure of her family and money, now she is free and telling that she was given money, no one is forcing her, even the photo of that leader giving her money is leaked, you better chill, but tryth will not chnage that you are a liar
and i am not trying to prove other religon wrong, if telling truth about islam becomes reason for downfall of others religion then what can i do, that means there is a problem in your religon, i said eralier, anti islamic comments in this group are there from 2009-2010 and i only started blogging here from april-may this year, so your accusation that i m trying to bash other religion is a lie again, i am just giving reply to lies against islam, thatsall
Oh…so you know the truth?
First you only blamed media for the “defame” of your religion now you are believing media?
Wow…its me who is hypocrite?
Kid if you watch news daily and beleive it…then you must kill yourself for what is being done by those terrorist groups wll over the world
admin, i am not telling you to convert to islam, you said why allah said these type of things i mean punishments but the same verse continues and says if you do good deeds you will get good rewards and if you disbelief and do bad deeds you will get punishments, now if you disagree with theses verses that means you are a criminal and don`t want to judged by your creator, i don`t know why its troubling, if you are good person and doing good deeds then why you are so concerned about these verses, these verses goes against a criminal not against a good person.
Mac do u believe allah created this world
If u say yes then quran is only 1500years old then people living
Before christ use to believe some
God.sanskrit the oldest language.
king vikramaditya name is written in
mecca.the bridge built by rama is visible from space.dwarka was discovered recently below water.in
sanatan dharm we believe in what u sow is wat u reap.if u plant apple seeds u dont get a mango tree.u get apples only. We are happy u believe
In some faith . All paths lead to one
God.
dear admn, you said if i was borned in christian family i would have been waiting for jesus,may be, but i would have checked bible(NT) and torah(OT), no where in bible it says jesus will save me, jesus constatntly talked about father not himself, i am not that kind of guy to beileve in Church or any islamic school like deoband.. and in Old Testament it is clearly said that another prohpet will come whose name will be Mohammad , it is given in old testament in the chapter Song of Songs [5:16], so i would have read it and accpeted mohammad as prohpet of god like most of jews did and thats why a huge population of jews are today muslim and thatswhy jews population is very minute as they converted to islam. http://riverscrap.typepad.com/home/2009/08/oy-vey-90-of-palestinians-have-jewish-heritage.html
So your argument that if i was borned in a christian i would have waiting for jesus is invalid here, more than 40% islamic scholars were christians,even first person to accept quran was a christians lady,anyway in islamic teachings also, i will be meeting jesus on judgement day, not only jesus but all prohpets, wao what a nice moment it would be……………..
admin id most of the hindus haven`t read manu,veda then why they are barking that hinduism is this hinduism is that, islam is bad and so so, first clean your own dirt and then think of others. And you don`t have to trust me, its in vedas,manu, i agve page no, verse no. also dowry burning custom was there in india, don`t act like a kid, anyway, the man who was responsible for uplifting dowry burning custom was himself madrasa educated.
admin said “If any one say “there is only one God and that is MINE!“, that is an ultimate stupidity. Hard you try to prove your book is 100% truth, more it will motivate people to write counter to it.” nope, i am not saying that god is mine, i never said so …atleast i am trying to prove, even writters,authors of medical books siad that indeed Quran must be from god >>>>
You are saying people will counter me if i try to prove qiran is 100% correct, admin why you are acting so naively, i starting blogging from april-may,2014, anti islamic comments are form 2011-2012, so your another argument fails.
Yes, I am not here to promote allah, but i never saw you telling people that “you are not here to propmote krishna,hinduism” or ” Defame islam”, all your intelligent applies on me……
Faith has no logic but Actress converted to hinduism or are all americans convert is a logic to promote hinduism here. OOPS, i forgot to mention that even you were promoting hinduism by your hinduly(LOL:-)) logic….
Song of Songs? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song+of+Songs+5%3A16&version=NIV It is not what you are saying! We have read the Bible and not seen a single mention of “Muhammad”.
We feel Muslims and Christians are glorifying Muhammad and Jesus, respectively, too much against those apostle’s wishes. Muhammad wished not to even display his photo, but wanted us to focus only on Allah. Christians are idolizing the wood cross and their apostle’s statues. We feel Jews have strike a great balance by respecting all apostles without undermining Allah. Further, we love that Jews don’t have the J-Day theory to scare people; that’s honesty. No wonder why Allah is very happy with Jews and made them richest (as per capita income) among all other people.
LOL, admin if christians were honest then there would`nt have been jew,christian,muslim division, the bible translator of west translated a name “muhammad”,”mahmot” into “all together a lovely person”, now tell how come it is possible to translate a name of a person, name should be name….
Anyway, i am giving you link of hebrew version of bible, jesus pbuh or ellohim,ellah,allahu(in arabic allah) never spoked in english, LOL
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.html
No you are wrong, jews even killed many prohpets, they killed jesus(quran says it appered unto them), many jews accepted muhammad pbuh, half of the rabbi(jews dharm guru) of medina accpeted mohammad, but today who are jews don`t even believe in god, most of them are atheist, jews only followed moses pbuh in front of moses but used to turn away from religion when moses used to be absent, and when moses died they turned completele.
LOL, allah is not happy with jews or happy with jews is a different topic but allah said he will give everything to jews in this world but they will get litlle afterlife, jews will pay 7 times more for their bad deeds as allah favoured them on earth and allah said in quran that he favoured jews because abraham to keep request of his wife sarah prayed to god that allah should give wealth to his people, allah accepted it and said if they turn away the punishment will be heavy… so no wonder why they don`t believe in J-day as they don`t wanna be judged.
mac, you are stuck on this afterlife, that is only your faith and not truth. Keep waiting in your grave!!
admin, this is not what i asked neither your answer is anyway relevant, you said mohammad is not mentioned in bible, i gave you link of hebrew bible where mohammad word is clearly given, don`t divert topic.
@ mac…i hav no.words for you…it is rightly said” only open minds receive wisdom”!!!
i wud lyk to have a look on ur comments:-
“LOL, admin if christians were honest then there would`nt have been jew,christian,muslim division, the bible translator of west translated a name “muhammad”,”mahmot” into “all together a lovely person”, now tell how come it is possible to translate a name of a person, name should be name….”
mac….from starting u have been trying to prove “muslim is the only religion and muhammad and aalah the only.god/meesenger”
there is no other religion in the world…there is no other god except yours…..and if there are any religions/gods ..they all are dishonest and fake”…this is what u want to say?
not ur mistake…..becoz..your book/preacher has created a hatred towards other religion/god….
i can understand your feeling.of hatred about others and insecurity about religion…..
when somebody says “fuck me mac”..u.just brand that person as “hindu” didnt u?
this streotype/prejudice in.your.mind reflects you “maturity”,”literacy”…
i hav just one word “grow up”
Oh “theme” nice word..!!!
Lol..ii couldn’t stop laughing at your “proof” sorry about that…
Atleast learn to be self honest..what you say and what you really mean is quite clear..so stop twisting things..you are wasting everyone’s time..
There is no suchthing as dowry burning customs…sathi pratha was there it was cruel was not stopped by antone learning frm madrasa.. Its was stopped by law by one Raja named Raja Ram mohon roy with help from lord Dalhousi.
There is no suchthing as dowry burning customs…sathi pratha was there it was cruel was not stopped by antone learning frm madrasa.. Its was stopped by law by one Raja named Raja Ram mohon roy with help from lord Dalhousi. Try to get dacts right
soum, i may misstyped it, sathi pratha in english is known as widow burning custom, anyway this custom came from vedas, and i said raja ram mohan roy studied is madrasa, so a great hindu reformer was a madrasa student, and you religion needed ban on many issues to coup up with present world, and that is a shame
The Koran is a book of evil and an obscenity against everything God stands for.
Islam is a morally bankrupt and unethical ideology. Slavery, raping slave girls, owning slaves, murdering infidels, killing apostates of Islam, selling boys and women as trophies of war, looting and pillaging the property of murdered infidels, sharing the booty obtained from the sale of boys and women and the proceeds of looting with ALLAH – Himself, the subjugation and beating of women, martyrdom for those who kill and are killed for ALLAH, a depraved Paradise filled with virgins who re – generate as virgins after sex as the sex slaves of the killers of Islam – these are just some samples of utterly unethical and evil teachings in the Quran
1. Raping slave girls:
QURAN – 70:22-30: “Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor…” This verse shows that Muslim men were allowed to have sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls.
QURAN – 23:5,6: “…who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them…” Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.
QURAN – 4:24: “And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you.
QURAN – 33:50: “Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;…”
This verse is for Muhammad. ALLAH allows Muhammad to own and rape his slave girls.
RAPE JIHAD
This very important Jihad was sanctioned by Allah in ayas 4.3,4.24,23.6,33.50 and 70.30
Allah says in these ayas that muslims are allowed to capture infidel women and to have sex with them. Muhammad, all sahabas and all great muslim invaders practiced this sanction of Allah.
The above verses are only a few out of numerous such verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical than owning and raping slave girls? Allah graciously allowed Muslims to own and rape slave girls. Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely raped their slave girls.
Many erudite Islamic pundits emphatically claim that Allah sent the Quran as the super guidance for not only Muslims, but for all mankind. My questions to them are as follows:
Can you tell us if you find some man in any civilized country owing slaves and raping his slave girls, what will be your conclusion about that guy? Can you tell us how a man who Muslims claim was the Apostle of God – The Prophet of Peace – was authorized by ALLAH – to own and rape slaves – an ALLAH who created evil laws that allowed the ownership of slaves, their purchase and sale, and their sexual abuse. Should all human kind follow this unethical Quranic guidance to day?
2. Hilla Marriage-A curse, shame, and humiliation for women
Quran-2:230: So if a husband Divorces his wife (irrevocably), he can not, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and he has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite; provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by God (Translation by Maulana Yousuf Ali).
Sahi Bukhari: #564: Syed ibne ukair..Aisha (ra) narrated that wife of Rifakurzi told to the apostle of God that (because) my husband Rifa has divorced me I married another man named Abdur rahman ibne kurzi but I want to go back to my former husband. Then Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told—if you want to go back to your former husband you must have sex with Abdur Rahman and then if he divorce you then you can go to your former husband, otherwise it can not happen.
These Quranic verse and sahi hadith are totally unethical. After reading the above holy verse#2:230—any elementary student will agree with that, Qur’an and Hadith strongly and clearly commands Hilla marriage to purify the divorced wife to be taken back by the former husband. The irony is, how can this Hilla marriage do the purification of an innocent divorced wife? Who is at fault, in the first place, in this scenario of a hasty divorce? Quite obviously it was the husband who had made the mistake. Then, why in the world poor wife has to be punished (sleep with another strange man) for the crime she did not commit? Because – merciful Allah said so in the Holy Qur’an, Period. What a compassionate judgment from our Merciful Allah!
3. Adoption in Islam was prohibited by Allah
Islam prohibits adopting children, Period. Adoption in the technical sense is not allowed in Muslim Shriah law. This is because Allah does not like this gesture of adopting orphan children. So Allah commanded his prophet to marry Zainab Bint Jahsh in order to abolish pagan custom (Fatawa al-Imam).” Al-sabuni states, “As to Zainab Bint Jahsh, the Messenger of Allah married for no higher wisdom than to abolish the heresy of adoption (A-sabuni).”
It follows from this revelation that the adopter may marry the ex-wife of his adopted son and vice-versa.
(Sura al-Ahzab 33:40): “Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but [he is] God’s Messenger and the Seal of the Prophets. God is Aware of everything!”
(Sura al-Ahzab 33:37): “We married her off to you so that there would be no objection for believers in respect to their adopted sons’ wives once they have accomplished their purpose with them. God’s command must be done!”
Thus Prophet Muhammad married Zainab in order to provide a good example of what the all-wise legislator was seeking to establish by way of rights and privileges for adoption.
In the verse (33:37) there is stated a particular purpose for this revelation and action of Muhammad. It is not for himself, but it is for the future of the Muslim community. It is so that in future there may not be a problem if anybody (father-in-law) wants to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son. “We permitted you to marry her so that it may hence be legitimate and morally blameless for a believer to marry the wife of his adopted son.” It is a mystery why in the world any father-in law will need to marry his adopted son’s wife which is extremely unethical.
Pre-Islamic Arab Custom: Adoption of orphan/helpless child was a very popular and moral practice amongst pre-Islamic Arabs. By adopting orphan/helpless child, they used to consider adopted child as their own. And they used to pass onto them the adopter’s genealogy and name, his investment of them with all the rights of the legitimate son including that of inheritance and the prohibition of marriage on grounds of consanguinity. I don’t know – how in the world Allah could dislike such noble deeds. How and why was this noble custom among human being prohibited? Only Merciful Allah knows it!
4. Muhammad’s booty is Allah’s booty, which was how Allah made Muhammad rich:
All the booty received from the sale of boys and women into slavery, and looting and pillaging the property of murdered infidels must be shared with ALLAH. Raping slaves, selling women and children , killing people for their property and sharing the proceeds with ALLAH is evil incarnate – these laws of ALLAH – are so morally outrageous – that too claim that these teachings in the Koran are the word of ALLAH – is the greatest sin that Muslims have committed against ALLAH. The Koran is an evil book and an obscenity against ALLAH.
Whatever booty goes to Muhammad belongs to Allah; it shall go to the relatives, the poor and the travelling alien; accept whatever booty Muhammad gives…59:7
chand Osmani or what ever your real name is, why don`t you make a short comment of yours, because if you are unable to make a long comment then please keep quite,don`t act like a plagiarist, your above comment is copied from anti islamic site, otherwise i would have proved you how wrong you are, but still i will answer you and will prove you that you are wrong.
Hi Amritesh,
We could like to know progress on your love of past 10 years?
The only way to follow the Koran and the Sunna is to obey men. Equality means obeying men.
Islam’s stand on women is the same as its stand on every issue—duality and submission. Dualism demands that everything is seen, not as a unified whole, but as divided. The primary political duality is the division between kafirs (unbelievers) and believers. The primary internal duality is the division between males and females.
The principle of submission means that one must rule over the other. No surprise, the women must submit to the men.
The reason for her existence is to serve her husband and obey his commands unconditionally.
The woman has no right to behave as though she possesses any authority or influence over her husband. They don’t have any voice unless their husbands ask their opinion. Muhammad said that: he “forbade women to talk except by leave of their husbands.”
If it had been given me to order someone to prostrate themselves in front of someone other than God, I would surely have ordered women to prostrate themselves in front of their husbands.”
“A woman cannot fulfil her duties towards god without first having accomplished those that she owes her husband.”
Muslim women are sexual objects to serve man’s pleasure on demand.
Likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: “Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will” (2:223);
If the husband wants more sex – he can rape infidel women.
“All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. You can’t have sex with married women, unless they are slaves obtained in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like).” 4:24
“You don’t have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls “that your right hand possess.” 23:6
Husband has right to sex at any time
Women must keep their sexual organs ready at all times for the husband to enjoy them unhindered at any time—night or day
Sahih Bukhari – 4.54.460, 7.62.81; Sahih Muslim – 8.3367, 3368;
Ghazali – vol 2, p. 43
A husband has the right to have sex with his wife by force (the right to rape)
Hedaya – p. 141
Women are cheap—you can have sex with a woman by simply teaching her how to recite a few verses from the Qur’an
Sahih Buhkari – 6.61.547, 548; Ghazali – vol 2, 31
Koran 24.20 is not Perfect. It is not PERFECTION. It is a hateful, violent, brutal, heartless, immoral, evil teaching of an immoral, brutal, hateful, violent, heartless, evil ANTI GOD – ALLAH.
Therefore the entire Koran is not the word/teachings of God but the words/teachings of ALLAH (The ANTI GOD)- the WORD/TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD – who is the ANTI – GOD of ISLAM – THE ANTI RELIGION.
Quran 24:20 :- And if it had not been for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy… and because Allah is Kind and Merciful.
Now tell me what wrong in this verse, i think you read this verse from anu anti islamic site who interpreted it in their own way
mac, we agree, it states the same what you have quoted in our book. How about this one?
** 22:19 Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: “Taste the torment of the Conflagration!” (by NJ Dawood, Penguin Books).
Is this Allah’s teachings?
Does this apply to all Hindus who are Krishna-murti-worshippers and non-believers in Muhammad? How Muslims are suppose to treat to these Hindus today based on this guidance?
good question, this is the same question i used to think that why we don`t think when we take help from doctor, take blood from blood donation, when we learn something from teacher we don`t think that we are learning from hindu or a muslim, problem is that is thnking was changed and thanks to this site coz when i started redaing commets i saw so many hatred,lies,falsehood against islam and muslims, and you also should ask govt when filling application form of school,colleges why we have to gve our religious identity whetehr he is hindu,muslims,christian, also SC,ST,OBC,GENARL and so so, first ask this questions to your goverenment, to your school,college authorities..
dat religion/caste..in indian constitution and all..exists because of people like you……who feel so insecure about their religion that they want “special.previlages…” and the same constitution has given you” right to embrace any religion as per your will”…but.. u say that there should be only one religion…”muslims” ..a non-muslim.can marry muslim only if he/she converts….didnt you say dat?…so basically u follow.the principle..”everyone should accept our religion..but we wont accept others” i feel.like slapping right on your face. .specially people like you hav made this planet a hell….
And rember one advice plz “stop scaring others about hell/heaven” . .i said already ..if a child is put into fear in the name of god/religion right from the time he/she is born…definitely that fear wont go away easily… ..
but the new generation is not fool….
very soon…your preaching and scaring will fade….so plz..enough of your..nonsense…
admin said “Muhammad, Koran is sitting right on this desk, along with Bible, Torah and Geeta. We like simplicity of Koran, easy to understand messages, donating without announcing it, helping poor and needy and no class system. However, we do not like hate for non-believers on almost every page of Koran. Instead of taking best out of Koran, religious fanatics promote terrorism (quoting Koran) in this world.”
——–then what about gita? what gita speaks about non-believers???
amritesh, atom molecules and their purpose are also mentioned in quran, instead answer my question, you are comparing chock and cheese, how can a baby of 5 kg will be lift 150 kg weight, is he lift, if human being are lift then what is the need for making lift, suppose ganesha was sleeping with his 150 kg of head, how will he rise and sit
@mac
i have just one word for “ignorant”…
you just know to blabber…but know nothing…
you hav started dividing scientists also in the name of your religion and god…!!!
what you know about science?
you have been insulting science…..i have already said
i am saying it again…IT IS THE SAME GOD/RELIGION WHO PRISONED.AND KILLED SCIENTISTS LIKE NEWTON AND GALLILEO” and this world still using their discoveries and inventions and various formulations..
you talked about algebra?
you can imagine algebra without “ZERO”?
You know…
1.ARYABHATTA
2.BHASKRACHARYA
3.CHANKYA
4.JAGDISH CHANDRA BASU(BOSE)
5.DR. C.V RAMAN
6.SHAKUNTLA DEVI(her brain processes faster than.a computer)
7.SHRINIVAS RAMANUJAN
there are lots on the list ..if add..u might feel offended saying
“no muslims?”…poor “religious creature”..
and if you know a recent dicovery of” BOSON/GOD PARTICLE”..which will soon reveal the mystery of “matter’s origin”….and if u know which indian scientist contributed towards it..(google..kid google it…about the great “BOSE”)
you have insulted science by saying”physics and bio are different”…because your boook has never taught to relate and blend things…it only told u to dicriminate…
SYMBIOTIC RELATIONS, BIO-DIVERSITY,ECOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL BALANCE..this shows how everything.in nature is inter-related…which you cant see and understand..
you just read physics (which u failed to undrstand) and religious books…
i read and appreciate all..PHYSICS ,CHEMISTRY,BIO,MATHEMATICS,COMPUTER SCIENCE…. and i.know the beauty of all….they are inter-related..which you.narrow minded people wont understand….
and the wonder when you blend them,integrate.them will.be beyond imaginations…
the internet and computer/mobile which you are using is wonderful.combination of all the subjects mentioned above…if you.have brain i.need not explain this to you..
so stop saying…”god created only.muslims”..rest are created by other god?
well it wasn’t me who brought shiva/ ganesha/lingam/yoni/rats or whoever to the conversation ..it was you who wanted to mock hindu gods/beleifs
i tried to make you understand religious myths/gods should be beleived worshipped only for their “goodness” ..but u started interpreting things in a wrong way…you just wanted to prove yourself and your god great and rest useless.
no body knows what happened in past..even the book on which you are swaring..neither you have seen the person who has written…and if that person has written or said something..there is no proof that those were the words of “the god”.
i asked you lots of questions but u just kept escaping in the name.of shiva,ganesha ..
your intension is very clear you know nothing about yourself but to object others…mock other religion and god.
i know you are very religious because u just jumped on reading the word “MUSLIM” there instead of reading and understanding things.
i have no any personal grudge on u or ur religion..unless and untill it comes in my way creating problems and making life miserable…
save your religion ..preach people but see to it that you make sense..for centuries
preachers like have created fear in minds of people by all ur godly things…
it wont work any longer..this is not adam’s era…
people have brains…they will question before following things blindly..
i have been diverted from my original cause and reason to come here…
some one rightly said”you are in that air tight container where there is no place for rational thinking”
yes, I am in such situation….
WHO IS TO BLAME?.
RATIONAL THINKING?
OR THAT CONTAINER(society)?- which never accept our love or rational thinking?
or is it LOVE?
Have i done wrong? if being hindu loved a muslim?
yes i am standing between two different religion ..!
where there is no place for LOVE, RATIONAL THINKING and HUMANITY …they can only fight each other..!
well, if i convert and marry her…then islam doesnt accept me because i am not able to beleive all the beleifs and practices by heart…how can I force my mind and heart to believe..when it is not ready to accept?
i cant force my mind and heart to believe in something illogical …cant force it..i am unable to do so…
so what should i do…?
shall i sacrifice my love…all promises …?
….
i dont know whether she will understand me or not…
and even if she and her family accepts me . .then who is going to answer society?
They will definitely reach with piles of books.all the rules and laws
will this society ever accept us?
they will let our parents live in peace?
who will change people’s mind…?
.who will make them understand what is wrong and right?
All these things suffocates me…..
if v dont get eachother…the hatred in our minds for this so called religion and god will grow beyond limits…!
Why dont a friend ask a friend before making friendship..people ARE YOU A MUSLIM/HINDU/CHRISTIAN?
Why shouldnt a doctor ask to a dying patient ARE YOU A MUSLIM/HINDU/CHRISTIAN?..why he just start saving life.
Why dont people ask our religionbefore helping us? Or seeking help from us?
Why dont a teacher ask our religion before educating ?
Why the book, the rules only for us? And the great god has made rules for us only?
These are all bloody politics.religious politics.which people do in the name of god and holybooks
Divide people in the name of nations, in the name of states, in the name religionsand when asked why are you doing so?
You say my god told me so.the great god said all the religions are different they should follow different sets of rules
Being philosophical huh? Yes I talk philosophy .atleast without being nonsense!!
Sowhat if the sun cast it lights only for a particular religion?
What if the waterquench the thirst of only a particular religion?
Fire and Earth also starts treating humans differently?
Then?
Why they dont follow rules?
And when it comes to fighting and killing everybody is ready? Is there any rule to stop them?
Is there any rule to stop people making mockery of others?
And if all the books are so divinewhy dont people follow EVERYTHING written in that?
Why dont they follow every rituals ..every customs ..and practice everthing accordingly?
Why rules only for those who love? Why restrictions on them.why people start opening booksjust to stop people loving each other? and dont let them live peacefully and independently ?
SUFFOCATE THEM.KILL THEM.MURDER THEM ..THEN TELL THE WORLD..MAD LOVERS COMMITED SUICIDE
And what you do is SERVICE TO GOD?
this world is so FAIR and JUST..
ha ha ha look look a idolworshipper is talking about logic,rational thinking, wah what a joke
yeah it was a joke !!!! laugh you crazy moron….i know u dont have brain…
“idol worshipper” huh?
you know the meaning also? see…i am warning you last time…stop posting nonsense..you call me idol worshipper…what are you then? …( that also you dont know?)
lol…
who is mohmad? what a koran is? who exactly wrote all that shit?…do you hav answers? ..you dont have..coz u r mad you know just to laugh..and before..lol….
commenting think…100 times before you say a word…
Islam is the fasting growing way of life in the world and so many
intelligent sincere people are coming to ISLAM. These people have
sincerely studied ISLAM and have concluded that ISLAM is indeed
from the CREATOR of mankind.
brother mohammd asked a very good question “if u r beliving only scientist then y u belive ur religion. . .
is ur religion came from the scientist
Is ur religion are changing a thing in day 2 day life. .”- now admin answer to his question, don`t divert, if scinece goes in one direction hinduism runs the opposite, isn`t it
Mac, Science and faith are quite different matters.
While discovering a polio vaccine, while sending a satellite to Mars and while building a bridge, scientists don’t open Geeta or Koran for instructions how to proceed. At the same time, after failed medical treatments for psychological issues, it would be good to learn about mind control from Geeta or put trust in Allah and let your mind go easy.
Mac, if you feel good believing you will be going to heaven on the Judgment day, keep going. However, don’t try to convince scientists that the Judgment Day is a proven truth.
admin again you twisted my question and instead of giving answer directly to my question you skiped it just like you did with mohammad, if science,faith are different then why you always say did scientist proved judgement day, because it is muslim girls personal beilef that she will be judged for her deeds by almighty allah oneday and at that time you brought scinece and ask them did scientist proved , etc etc, and when we ask you started to cry that “Mac, Science and faith are quite different matters. ” , yes i agree with you, then from now on keep your scientific issues aside, anyway, islam is the only religion that is told my many top scientist, authors that it is indeed revelation from god, here you can see [1] , [2]
Your statement, “islam is the only religion that is told by many top scientist, authors that it is indeed revelation from god”, scientist could have faith and may believe in Islam. However, don’t push your luck. If you take 100 best scientists of last 100 years, most probably, most of them felt Bible/Torah, and not Koran, as true revelations of God. To total knowledge gained over last 100 years on science, major contributions are made by Christians and Jews and only minor contribution by Muslims.
It is beyond our comprehension that you are saying “islam is the only religion…”. Again, this is your faith but not belief of 5.6 billion others on this earth. If you try to impose your irrational belief on others, then you are not any different than ISIS/Telibani/intolerant.
admin, muslims contributed towards science for about 800 years muslim carried science, its now their turn, they had 400 years, if they can take it for another 400 years then they will equal, don`t forget father of modern algebra is a muslim,
admin, those scientist never said about bible,torah, those scientist were non-muslims who said about quran, admin, you said ” most of them felt Bible/Torah, and not Koran, ” can you show me any top scientist,author saying bible is from god from last century.
Mac do you realise how many haters you have? Admin, Rc and many others are also frequent ones who answer the questions but why is it always you who is critisized and hated by everyone? Think about it. STOP SPREADING HATRED AND START LOVING MANKIND IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR FAITH.
Good, i don`t care, why don`t they answer according to my question, Rc said what i said about vedas is not there, i showed Rc the exact page numbers, then rc got silent, same goes with admin, admin regulates this site in very partial manner, admin mde bible,torah,quran on hindus, why didn`t admin made vedas,gitas,manu on christians,muslims,jews, ha why not?? is this proper way to run a website, you ask yourself, by the way, i don`t write any thing on my one, i just reoly according to you people onesided comments, and you can also see many people appreciating my comments including hindu girls bcoz i din`t gave them irrational,one sided advise. And are you blind, don`t you see lies,hatred against islam in this blog, what you think, you people will keep on lying against islam and we will keep on watching, those days are gone, muslims are now coming forward again, we will defend ourselves, problem is that you people can`t defend yourself thats why attack personally, why don`t you point out single mistake my me, if you point out i will not run away like chand osmani,resha sing instead i will openly appologise here, go on them, find any bias information given by me..
Well, Mac you are too arrogant. Rc didn’t go silent, it’s just that Rc placed his point and you failed to understand it. First you asked for one reason why Hindus are better and after RC reply, you jumped onto critisizing Hinduism. And all the verses you marked are false. And why would anyone reply to anyone as cheap as you? And Admin isn’t partial. If you see he has pointed each time you were right. And also, you are always wrong. You judge others without knowing. You boast about Islam but the truth is that it’s full of crap. Islam is a lie. And if this site and admin are so bad then please leave it and stop responding. Everyone would be happy if you didn’t post on this site. You are a mistake on this planet. Just get the hell out if here. NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR CRAP.
We are saying – all faiths lead to salvation. We ALL are creation of Allah. If Allah did not like Shias, Christians, Jews and Hindus, why HE has created 5.6+ billions of them? Is Allah weak to ask us hate His creations? Alternatively, did people (like mac) not understood Allah and telling us that only Islam is a true faith?
If two people’s love is true, there is no need for dirty fake-religious conversion. Let the rose be rose and carnation be carnation! Love and respect all.
ya admin gets happy when i talk with hindu girls and advise then rationally, but i haven`t seen admin advising any muslim girl rationally, though admin is rtaional when its between muslim girl-christian boy..
And about vedas, i have given arya samaj link, go and check, also i am in this site to reply you people`s lie, admin is 100% partial, why not asection for gita,veda,manu on muslims,christians,jews.. again telling you, point out a single lie by me, i will openly opplogise and if you can point out three lie i will leave this site, but i can point out atleast 30 lies by different bloggers in this site..
beleive in religion.and god…i have no.problem with any…but why making it a obstacle? a problem…y u r forcing people to beleive?
only one mystery has remained unsolved….how matter was created?
well ..there would some source of energy…but why to make that source a god? and divide people…regard other as polytheist…sinner cult nad what not …if they dont beleive?
swaring on the books..which you..yourself dont know exactly from where it came…n.you yourself dont follow most of the thing?
what you asked is there in quran, but i will not tell you as you think idolworship is rational and believing is god and doing good work to worship god is illogical
LOL, any doctor here, who a baby can weigh 150 kg of weigh, and about pin and equlibrium and centre of gravity, tell me how will 5 kg balnce 150 kg, wehre will rest 145kg go, pin will be set in such situation, also you contradicted another scientific fact is that pin is not a human body, pin has no sense like human body, if you truck a solid body it will not say i got hurt, but if anyone sits you i will say you got heart, if you break pin into two parts still pin will be pin, you can use lower part(sharp) of it, even you can perform experiment that you mentioned above, but if you brake human into to pieces then gone he will be of no use, human being and pin are not the same things, biology and physics are two different things, tell me why if any baby born with big head or weight higer than normal, why doctors rectify that defeat by surgery or sometime by medicine, you even don`t know the balance of a body
@mac I love your posts Bhai. I am in love with you. Can you please give me your email ID? really want to be your slave. Please send me your email
no need to become my slave, submit to one and only one god, be slave of god not me, i m just a human being , anyway, you can contact me here
fuck me mac
i can only give you information on islam and comparative religion, please don`t ask such non-sense, i think you are a hindu guy trying to defame me
its appeal to all.plz stop fyting in the name of religion or god…stop pointing fingers on others… MY INTENSION WAS NOT TO HURT ANY1 …
I will ask few questions…if people can respond(without targeting anybody’s religion) i will b grateful
1.HAVE I DONE A CRIME LOVING A GIRL?
2.IS RELIGION ABOVE EVEYRHING?
3.NOT BELIEVING IN SOMETHING(WHICH MAKES NO SENSE) WHICH CREATES FEAR NEVER LEt US LIVE PECEFULLY AND IDEPENDENTLY …..IS CRIMe?
4.I HAVE THIS LIFE…CAN SPOIL IT MAKE MYSELF UNHAPPY…IN A BELEIF THAT I WILL GET INTO HEAVEN/HELL?
5. SHALL I STOP BELEIVING IN SCIENCE AND EDUCATION WHICH TAUGHT ME TO BELEIVE IN WHAT IS RIGHT?
First of all- 18 is never ever the age for an institution called marriage. Concentrate in studies, achieve and think about the stuff after ten years- by that time this girl would have become a faded figure in your memory.
And in case if you want to marry the same girl, remember that you’ll be placing yourself inside an air-tight container where there will be no space for free-thinking, rationality and justice.
Amritesh,
You have given a great suggestion, “fyting in the name of religion or god”, however some people are stick in their THE Book and thus they cannot see any thing in this world other than what was written some 1500 years before. This is too sad!
However, this blog is a good real life experience for you. After your marriage with a Muslim, you will hear these Judgment day and Muhammad things every day, if not every minute. If you are already tired of these discussion, then convert to Islam or decide what you wish to do with your girl friend.
dear admin
thanks for ur compliments and suggestions…yes…in my post it was very clear..that…i want to marry a muslim girl and live a peaceful life..once i tried to make her understand…
how things are going to be difficult…this so called society will brand us by lot heavenly words like”sinner,cult,satan” and what not…i dont about another heaven or hell but they will definitely make our life a hell on earth
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well, aftr only few days of this conversation..our condition became worse we were not able to concentrate on anything..surely affected our studies…then i promised her i will convert…follow everything
but now there is a different story AM SUPPOSED TO BELEIVE IN SUCH THINGS WHICH HAVE NO LOGIC, if i ask questions…things are pushed on god and books…”its said so,written so”..
amritesh, if you convert for again this will be sin as per our religion, you should convert for almighty god not for her, yes if you beileve in god and convert for her its okay.
:::i want to marry a muslim girl and live a peaceful life..once i tried to make her understand…::: look bro, problem is created by you when you said you wnat to marry a muslim girl, why didn`t you said i want to marry a girl from muslim community, when you said you want to marry a muslim girl, that means she is muslim and a muslim cannot marry a non-muslim, thats very simple.
::::but now there is a different story AM SUPPOSED TO BELEIVE IN SUCH THINGS WHICH HAVE NO LOGIC, if i ask questions…things are pushed on god and books…”its said so,written so”..:::: do you know how many scientist praised quran for its accuracy, those scientist wrote many books on medicine which still today students in UK,Canada,USA reads.
Also many scientist accepts Qur’an as thir scientific book
Ths is true knw mac. .am ri8 oly knw
some of the person saying that to nt belive as ths is 1500 yrs go. .
am asking r u living life peacefully in this modern days?
u did nt get any problem in this modern days. .
at the olden yrs they belive ths book nd have live their life peacefully. . .
Ths is for those who didnt belive book
y they belive thing as God, which gives gain . . y they r nt beliving that both the things(gain and loss) which is given by god. .
how god may have wife,children. .
i have asked the question to admin that what is the difference between god and us if god may have wife nd oll
we have given so many proofs regards to our religion but admin didnt give any single proofs regards to their religion. . .ask him
y they didnt give becoz they didnt have any proof to give. .right admin
Amritesh, tell her to convert in Hinduism, because there are lot of free thinking in this religion. Even if some one does not belive in God, he may remein Hindu. Otherwise stop the relation or become a puppet of Islam where free thinking is forbidden.
Ameritesh, We are 100% on your point, “i dont about another heaven or hell but they will definitely make our life a hell on earth”. In dream of heaven in AFTER life, these people don’t mind hell in this life. Not only that, they don’t mind creating hell for others who are enjoying heaven in THIS life (like Osama Bin Laden).
Yes, this is another thing that blows our mind, “things are pushed on god and books…”its said so,written so””. Mac is a perfect example, so stuck on THE book and nothing else goes in his head. We feel sorry for him! Mac is a good honest guy now but in name of Islam, someone bad guy could easily radicalize him, we hope not. Please educate mac and your girl friend.
have u read nd understand the holy Qur’an. . .
r u nt beliving other book like scientific books nd oll
what is the neccasity of book
y u doesnt read ur book gita. .
answer me all these question admin. .
dont be kid. .ok
Dear Moh,
We agree to you and that is our weakness.
We think like a scientist who is trained to think every thing critically. The books are there to guide us but new knowledge is being added every day. Today’s best cancer drug may turn out toxic drug tomorrow. Thelidomide drug was used once by pregnant mothers for morning sickness, but later turned out to be a teratogen (producing deform babies). Now again scientists found it as a good cancer drug. Koran is in stone, but science is always flowing and changing.
Science is logical while faith has no logic. You are trained to think Koran as Godly words and then you don’t question any thing. You just try to prove somehow Koran is 100% truth because that is what God said. When we read koran (read) we found many intolerant teachings to others, that we believe God will NEVER do. Further, if Allah don’t like Jews and Christians (5:51)(and Hindus), why Allah don’t kill them in one second, done deal. If Allah likes Muslims, why they are poorer compared to Christians and Jews on this earth? You are dreaming of the Judgment Day but there is absolutely no proof to it, keep waiting for it for ever.
If it is your faith, we respect it. Keep believing what you wish to.
We trust Allah because Allah has created heaven for us in THIS life. We are blessed 100%. If we were wrong doer or unbeliever why will not Allah would have killed us long before? We like to tell you to follow Allah, not Muhammad. Is that logical?
Dear admin,
Go and understand the Qur’an after that blame wheather its right or wrong. . .
you are nt beliving The Qur’an know
then dont belive Gita or bible as it is also an oldest book and its also nt updating daily
if u r beliving only scientist then y u belive ur religion. . .
is ur religion came from the scientist
Is ur religion are changing a thing in day 2 day life. .
if u only wants to belive scientist then dont belive any religion including ur religion. . .
1. can a man create a thing with out any reason or any purpose. . .???
lets think about
a simple man cant create a thing without any reason. .
how god can create us without any reason
There must be some reason knw. .
find it??
2. can any people get educated without a teacher/guidance. .???
How u can live ur life without any guid for ur whole life
Thus what our prophet Mohammed [p.b.u.h] is. .
if u are also belive ur religion then dont ask me any proof. .
bcoz ur religion doesnt prooved any things by the scientist. .
We like to take the best from Geeta, Koran and Bible, and keep the rest for others. Is there any thing wrong with that? Why one book, why not all?
All your explanations “how god can create us without any reason. There must be some reason” is not a justification that we have to idolize Muhammad five times a day.
We agree Muhammad is a guru and we could learn from him, so does Jesus, Krishna, the schoolteacher and any science book. All these are educating us and all are important.
We understood the Allah part. What we don’t understand is the need to glorify Muhammad. Why Muhammad is a critical part of the Shahadah (muḥammadun rasūlu-llāh), why not end Shahadah at – lā ʾilāha ʾil ʾāllāh? Why Muhammad should be glorified by Allah’s created 5.6 billion non-Muslims?
Our RC seems to be really godly person. Why Allah will not send him to heaven on the Judgment Day, even he does not glorify Muhammad? The same is true for Mahatma Gandhi, you, mac and more. Is it not our karma important to Allah and not the religious label or the apostle? Do you agree?
hey. .hey !! dont divert my questions. .ok admin
when i ask u the same question about ur religion u r diverting me ah. .
u want to take best from all the three books but why u always against with islam bcoz u beliving the quran ah. .
I knw that u want to grow population of ur religion so u want to convert innocent muslim girls to your religion. .
when the talk was come about hindu girls who want to convert. .you are divertng them nt to convert becoz muslim boys are nt gud ah. .
what about hindu boys. .they didnt do any wrong thing ah. .
oh shut up !!!
Muhammad, Koran is sitting right on this desk, along with Bible, Torah and Geeta. We like simplicity of Koran, easy to understand messages, donating without announcing it, helping poor and needy and no class system. However, we do not like hate for non-believers on almost every page of Koran. Instead of taking best out of Koran, religious fanatics promote terrorism (quoting Koran) in this world.
buddy..ur mind is of evils..
u just want to fight and prove other religions bad/fals spoiled
dont give examples of any HUMAN creating any violence…ajmal kasab was also a muslim…how many lives did he kill?
daud abraham also a muslim
wat u will u say about Osama bin.laaden?
see..its not hindu or muslim..its a HUMAN its u and me who change the world in either ways good or bad…stop streotyping…
i have no tym to discuss any blog or visiting site..i just love some1..n you are making it religious war..
1.fire- we meant source of energy..but people lyk u misuse..make it a mass of destructions.
u lack in.prelim. education…so.u r not
understanding thing u just want to prove ur religion is best others r nothing…
i dont want to argue on it…
still m saying i didnt say dat ur religion is bad…
my intension from the point”female’s edu.” was very clear…i hav seen people following nonsense things blindly…there should some sense( in any religion)..u know y i typed “any religion” coz this tym i dont want to pick a point and start fighting the way u r doing..
so plz..u have seen aftr life good for u..plan ur next life…again i am repeating…i love her..n if she thinks she wil go to.hell…i will let her go…to heaven..to a peceful life..if she is happy..
then ram , krishna, the hindu gods are also hindu, ha o, they gods of hindus who killed innocent people, kasab,laden were human beings but why your god killed people, the vhp,bajrangdal cadre who killed,raped(92,2002,2013muzaffarnagar) women were hindus too, LTTE was hindu too who killed thousands of innocent people in srilanka, in assam, terrorists killed thousands of muslims, those terrorists are also hindus, oh, why i am telling this to you when your gods are terrorist itself, anyway, tell me what will happen if i touch god, will i fee good or bad, if i feel bad then surely fire is not god, its simple. Again i m telling you that you clearly said in muslim religion educations was banned which i proved here to be wrong, now whether you accept that you lied or you accpet that you are plagiarist, which one will you accept, ooo, you accepted that you are a plagiarist coz you said you heard people saying this and that, anyway, ask her whether he believes in one unseen god, whether she is muslims by heart or not, if not then marry her, but again saying you, a muslim boy/girl cannot marry a polytheist(means those who worship creations like you), so if you want to marry her then you have to accept that there is only one god worthy of worship, that god is unseen,unborn and mohammad(pbuh) was god`s last messenger,besides you habe to beileve that Jesus,Moses,Jonah,Aaron,John,Isshmael,Issac,Abraham,Noah,Adam(the first man on planet) were god`s messenger, now if you want to add krishna,buddha to this list you can, beileveing in these prohpets and one unseen god makes you muslim and then you can marry her other wise you can`t as per islam.
amritesh bro, this site is not for one on one conversation site, reply to comments may create confusion, so if you want a direct conversion then click here
master mac it seems being literate also u havent learned anything…
ur god/religion has not even taught to talk properly . so tit for tat. u mother fucker…
now listen i dont believe in any religion who follow things blindly…
yes i hav grown up in hindu family and i was never taught “other religions are bad” i havent read GEETA or Quaran…u read it …and before u touch any 1 advice first b a human being and gain some sense..dont just start targeting any religion.
my god never taught me that i have done a sin by loving a human..but definitely ur god say that
“women r killed if they fall in love with other religion” .
“killing is service to god and loving god’s creations a crime?”
i am not a graduate but still i dont want to become LITERATE if education teaches me killing,hating and not respecting others..i want to b that little innocent kid..who.is not taught if he is HINDU/MUSLIM which restricts him/her,creates fear in.mind
Dear Admin,
Muslim nt just a Religion who only belives Allah. .Must also belives that Mohammed[p.b.u.h] as a Messenger of Allah(s.w.t) by the first Ayath
[Ash hadu Allah ilaha illallah wa’ash hadu Anna Muhammadar rasurulah]
Meaning : There is no God except Allah and Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is a Messanger of Allah]
then only he/she be a Muslims. . .otherwise he/she not become a muslim
It is of the big sin who ever says (participate) or partnership with Allah(s.w.t). then Allah will not forgive those peoples nd they go to hell.
nd u have told this ayath
“Believers, take neither
Jews nor the Christians for
your friends” (Koran 5:51)
for ths go to ths site for great explanasion
http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog/2009/09/07/friendship-with-non-muslims-explaining-verse-551/
dont be crazy admin. .dont see which religion has most people than that religion right. .see which religion tell you a right path
and one more thing that you oly have started told badly about Islam. . .thats mind it. . .untill u stop we cant be stop ok
Following Muhammad is a right path??
As an outsider, we feel you guys are diluting focus on Allah by associating Muhammad at every step of life. All religions follow Allah, but it seems Islam is all about Muhammad, Muhammad and Muhammad.
Educate us about Muhammad’s married life, number of wives and the age of Ayesha when she married Muhammad. This will help Muslim and non-Muslim girls decide if they wish their husband like Muhammad.
all religions don`t follow allah, except sikhs and some jews, little christians also follow allah, hindus say krishna is god, christians say jesus is god, buddhists say gautam budhha is god, do`t lie
Allah part is clear, but why to idolize Muhammad?
no one is idolozing mohammad, you may don`t know starting from Adam to Noah to Abraham,Ismael,Isaac,Jacob,,John,Jonah Aaron,Solomon,David,Moses,Jesus,Mohammad peace be upon all of them are equal in our eyes, we don`t distinguish between them, mohammad was last prohpet of islam(i.e. submission to god)
we have given so many scientific proof regarding to Islam. . .have u gven a single proof of about ur religion. .
i didnt see any single scientific proof that was taken from your book gita. .
why we r using books to read nd understand knw. .
but y ur religion takes ur book “gita” to take safely nd use for promising. .
r u ready to give those answers. .
What proof you gave for the Judgment Day?
what proof you gave that there will be no judgement
thanks to every1 for ur response
oh..easy buddy..its not a HINDU-MUSLIM fight…and…being in this modern world i beleive in science and reasonsing.
1. its ur people who says “women are weak minded..they listen to their heart instead of mind” u can read posts on this site..so teach n preach ur people what muhmad said and all…o dnt give a damn .f****
2. in hindu there are various god because we accept and respect the god in the form we like.there is no restrictions..its lyk various paths reaching to same god. and none of hindu god say to hate other religion dont marry other religion and all that bullshit
see i didnt say i dont respect god/religion..but when it comes to following any “nonsense”myths and practices blindly..m against it
3.yes for me LOVE and HUMANITY is above everything.
armitesh, who said its hindu muslim fight, actually you ate lying, and this website is not source on islam that you said ” u can read posts on this site.” ,, it is their say not from quran. Your this line proved me again that why allah warned muslim women not to marry a polytheist “o dnt give a damn .f****”
///2. in hindu there are various god because we accept and respect the god in the form we like.there is no restrictions..its lyk various paths reaching to same god. and none of hindu god say to hate other religion dont marry other religion and all that bullshit/// do you know why??? because your religion is devil,satanic cult which takes man to darkness, your gita,vedas,manu is full of hatred towards others religion and women Vedas on Muslims
////3.yes for me LOVE and HUMANITY is above everything.//// LOL, what kind of love when you don`t care about your lovers afterlife, why you want your lover to be in hell fire and don`t teach me about science, your religion walks opposite of logic and science
Buddy…dont pull me on this…m too bad..i dont have time for religion and all..
ur saying
u or ur religion beleive in “Science and logic” then stop scaring people about after life..hell/heaven.. its not you who is gonna decide that.
i have read many books..better u read it..satan or “assasins” are people who kills others not the prople who love..its not any bookish knowledge it is what my innerself says.
u r provoking me to use bad words..
u read my statements without being a MUSLIM/HINDU
u can feel what are my doubts and fear..
forget about “terminolgies” lyk sitespot talk about the point.
stop elborating my mistakes look on urself
.
yes habibi matromonials did say dat..how come ur fellow is misguiding?
and yes. i have seen people doing this. (not allowing muslim.girls ..)
HOW COME A BOY CAN MARRY A NON-MUSLIM- it only proves the law was created in the fear that muslim religion.myt extinct..
what scientific reasons i r talking about? u talk about book and history
mentioning “he said that/books says this….so it is so…” lol….i call it science?
wow “hell and heaven…” u hav seen that…lol…u will teach me hell and heaven…?
if she also thinks that she will be in hell if she marrys me….
then by all means i will let her go and marry any muslim(if that takes her to heaven) and if she leads a happy life on this earth(hell/heaven??)
i mean “what the hell?”..lol..people making their present life hell..thinking of that heaven…which no 1 will.prove of it exists…
now go n read more books…i wanted help …but its really disappointing when people start fyting and preaching things..doubting my love…talking about history…the same history where people fought in the name of god/religion/nation…and still continuing the same…and god was so “happy. .”
fight ,kill ,die,dicriminate,dont respect dont accept…
i hav read many books…scientist lyk nwton,gallileo were prisoned and killed just because they put something logical n sensible infront of the earth…but religions found it “oppostion to god” (n mind it was not hindu..if u read history…v worship sun ultimate source of energy,ganpati- a wonder cobination of two evolved species ,durga-representing female’s strength,fire-again energy source,plants-if u hav brain u will understand y) …
now what m saying is stop fyting in the name religion….talking about negative sides of eachother…..
natures law- everything has opposites(bad/good)
accept what is right and sensible…
i.mean i never said to her u convert for me..m ready tp accept she is..
m a human..got legs,two hands,..etc.
she also do…then i ask”why all this problem”
then comes “society” people lyk.u..she create fear,chaos and ultimately a war.
“””now go n read more books…i wanted help …but its really disappointing when people start fyting and preaching things..doubting my love…talking about history”””” yes, I am doubting, coz if you love her why you want to push her to hell fire, way you described your religion, it confirmed that you are a ploytheist which a mulim cannot marry
“”v worship sun ultimate source of energy””” we worship not sun, but the creator of sun, we worship creator not the creation.
“””ganpati- a wonder cobination of two evolved species “”” LOL 🙂 on one hand you said you beileve in science and on the other hand you are explaining ganpati, bro you are a hypocrite for sure, coz the story of ganpati contradicts basic scientific facts, like one a man is dead he is dead, no return, but when shiva chopped off ganesh`s head,again confusion,contradiction,if shiva is supreme god then how on earth he didn`t knew ganesh was his son, agains if he is god then he could have attached ganesh head, why he had to bring elephant head,
“””durga-representing female’s strength””” but veda,many says womoen are dirty,bad,dog, and so so, and why you have to represent females stength, and if your hinduism respect women so much then why there is no rape law in hinduism but in islam a rapist is awarded with death punishment, why women were told to die if husband dies(you know widow burning custom) and why women has to give dowry to husband, we do the opposite, in our religion a male must have to give dowry to women.
“””fire-again energy source,plants-if u hav brain u will understand y) …”” so you worship fire coz it is energy source, why not worship that energy, there are ways to worship that energy and remerber fire causes destruction too, so your excuse is also not valid in many cases.
“”””i.mean i never said to her u convert for me..m ready tp accept she is..
m a human..got legs,two hands,..etc.
she also do…then i ask”why all this problem”””” because you are a polytheist, it doesn`t matter for you what she worships but you don`t worship the creator which she worships and thatswhy allah will ask her why she married a man who didn`t worshipd creator, why you want to put her in this situation, remember facing creator not creation the creator who created everything.
y admin becomes crazy i dont know !!.he is talking without any logic. .
who tells that we peoples r nt following Mohammed[p.b.u.h]
Actually, I tell you one thing that every one agrees that there is only one god but the difference is
Hindus says there are more sub gods whch ur wishes will take to one god
Cristian says that Jesus[p.b.u.h] who is also our prophet but says Jesus as a God
but every muslim should agree that
[Ash hadu Allah ilaha illAllah wa’ash hadu Anna Muhammadar rasurullah]
Meaning : There is no god except Allah and Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is his Messenger
by this every muslim should accept Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is Allah’s Messenger and follow the things which Muhammed[p.b.u.h] has said to us.
We are talking about God, why you are dragging Muhammad in this discussion? Why you have to link Muhammad every time you think of Allah? Keep Muhammad out and we will become Muslim today! Allah is great (stop discussion there) but don’t bring up the human Muhammad-factor in.
You do not realize but Muhammad (and Jesus) is the most idolized human being. Can you think of any one else?
You have to realize that there are only 1.6 billion Muslims on this earth. For the rest of 5.4 billion non-Muslims, Muhammad means nothing. What Krishna means to you that is exactly what Muhammad means to 5.4 billion people.
If you call Her/Him Allah (by 1.6xB Muslims), the Father God (by 2.1xB Christians) or Isvara (1xB Hindus), the God does not change. You may call a flower – rose in English or – Gulab in Indian languages; the flower does not change. You pray Allah looking at the black cube or in three forms as Christian do or more forms as by Hindus, God does not change. All these are different paths to reach to the same ultimate.
Muhammed, while reading Koran, we found this statement interesting … “Believers, take neither Jews nor the Christians for your friends” (Koran 5:51). If Allah does not like Christians and Jews (and Hindus), why She/He does not kill all Jews/Christians right now? Is Muhammad’s-Allah weak? Actually, overall in this world, Jews and Christians are lots richer and prosperous than Muslims. Why? Why Allah let others having fun while Muslims are fighting and suffering in THIS life?
Muhammed, now you will say that only Muslim will have a good AFTER life. Let us tell you that this Judgment Day and AFTER life is a creation of someone to fool you. There is no scientific proof to that. Show us the proof. Wake up! Stop idolizing that man.
mac and Muhammed, lets do something sensible. We respect your belief and you reciprocate. You don’t say badly to other’s beliefs and we do the same by respecting for your Muhammad. Is that a fair deal? Do you want to start now?
Dear Admin,
Muslim nt just a Religion who only belives Allah. .Must also belives that Mohammed[p.b.u.h] as a Messenger of Allah(s.w.t) by the first Ayath
[Ash hadu Allah ilaha illallah wa’ash hadu Anna Muhammadar rasurulah]
Meaning : There is no God except Allah and Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is a Messanger of Allah]
then only he/she be a Muslims. . .otherwise he/she not become a muslim
It is of the big sin who ever says (participate) or partnership with Allah(s.w.t). then Allah will never forgive those peoples nd they go to hell.
nd u have told this ayath
“Believers, take neither
Jews nor the Christians for
your friends” (Koran 5:51)
for ths go to ths site for great explanasion
http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog/2009/09/07/friendship-with-non-muslims-explaining-verse-551/
dont be crazy admin. .dont see which religion has most people than that religion right. .see which religion tell you a right path
and one more thing that you oly have started told badly about Islam. . .thats mind it. . .untill u stop we cant be stop ok
Who told that Hindus say there are many sub Gods ? Pl. know the great Hindu religious philisophy first and then opine. Hindus believe that God is one but He is so great that it is impossible to make an impression of Him. So, they preach the God according to their imagination. As Hinduism is the oldest religion of the world, natural symbols of trees, plants, animals etc have occupied a great place in their imagination. For an unvicible thing ,any one has to imagine the thing according to his / her consciousness.If you need any clarification, feel free to ask question. At last, Hinduism is not a codified religion and there is no person who had introduced it. It is sanatan because it does not die or born. The religion reached to the mankind through evolution. So, it is unlike other religions.
Regarding Mac , pointing rapist to a particular community
in december 2012 Nirbhaya gangrape . the juvenile was a muslim , Mohammed afroze ..he inserted rods in private parts of the girl , islam teaches raping and brutuality at very early age ..
in Mumbai gang rape case 3 rapist were muslim out of 5 ..they had earlier too raped a
in Bangalore school rape case , the rapist was a muslim
in kashmir a Muslim ,ufi dervish Gulzar Ahmed Bhat was arrested for raping girls in madarasa in may 2014 ..
muslims are expert in raping , they do every where , to hide their fallacy they blame others …Mac stop being blind ..
We know your muslim community has learnt raping from your Prophet muhammed , did he was a really prophet …
on other hand christ never ordered murder ,never consumed a girl of his grand daughter age or went to war … Muhammed a prophet , is a big lol and a question mark on thinking of muslims
@freethinker,
are you mad of what, LOL, in Nirbhaya gangrape .rest four were hindus,so……
what about asharam bapu who raped thousands of women,children in his ashrams
what about about asharam bapu`s son Narain sai who aslo raped many ….. LOL
and in kashmir thousands of kashmiri women were raped by indian army, so
LOL!!!!! Allegation against Asaram Bapu part of attack on Hindu culture: VHP
LMAO!!!!! Sangh Parivar and BJP’s frontal organizations jump in support of Asaram Bapu
OMG!!!!! A Rapist is a real Saint Asaram Bapu is a real saint, is innocent: VHP leader Pravin Togadia
and on defending your religon, you jumped to jeses pbuh who was another prohpet of islam, jesus pbuh is mentioned 25 times in quran where as mohammad pbuh was mentioned 4 times, and many good storeis about jesus,mary(mother of jesus) that christians missonaries,evangelist distribute today are taken from islamic source not judeo christian source
they never say jesus called them “You Fools! You Hypocrites! You Snakes!”– this is what jesus said to his people as per Holy Bible
Jesus Christ -“fools, hypocrites, blind guides, whited sepulchers, murderers, a generation of snakes,”[mathew 23]
Even he referred them as “”the DOGS and PIGS”
jesus referred to the recalcitrant Jewish leaders as, “an EVIL and ADULTEROUS generation,” “SERPENTS and SNAKES,” and “children of the DEVIL.” Why He even told the Scribes and Pharisees regarding the royal and mighty King Herod: “Go ye, and tell that FOX [that JACKAL]…”
Jesus christ also said that a true believer will drink deadly poison and still will not, do believe that a prohpet of god asking you to drink poison, will be alive after drinking poison, will any christian be alive after drinking poisin
…(16)”He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. (17)”These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; (18) they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
In a incident jesus called her mother `women`, will you call your mother hey you women or mom, this is what bible says
“And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come.”[john 2:4]
But we muslim rejects all these sayings of jesus , we say jesus was pure, these are fabrication not jesus`s words
We agree to mac and tell interfaith lovers to “follow Jesus and not the church“. Bible was finalized some 400 years after Jesus’ departure and the final version of the Bible has been voted.
Here mac avoided Muhammad’s number of wives and what age Ayesha had when Muhammad married her. Now he will come and tell us that Muhammad did all these to help those needy women? What would you say if Bill Gates starts this kind of charity today (shelter for sex)? All Hindu girls in love with a Muslim should think will she marry that boy if he is turn out to have married life (and wives) just like Muhammad?
Interfaith relationships will go great if people follow Jesus and not the church and follow Allah and not Muhammad. (now mac will say they are not following Muhammad, watch out).
y admin becomes crazy i dont know !!.he is talking without any logic. .
without knwng anythng he saying somethng
who tells that we peoples r nt following Mohammed[p.b.u.h]
Actually, I tell you one thing that every one agrees that there is only one god but the difference is
Hindus says there are more sub gods whch ur wishes will take to one god
Cristian says that Jesus[p.b.u.h] who is also our prophet but says Jesus as a God
but every muslim should agree that
[Ash hadu Allah ilaha illAllah wa’ash hadu Anna Muhammadar rasurullah]
Meaning : There is no god except Allah and Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is his Messenger
by this every muslim should accept Muhammed[p.b.u.h] is Allah’s Messenger and follow the things which Muhammed[p.b.u.h] has said to us.
admin, if you agree with me(mac) then accept islam, i said jesus pbuh was muslim, and i also gave you proof that if you want to follow jesus pbuh then you will turn up being a muslim,
and we very much follow allah, mohammad was messenger of allah, i think you don`t have basic concept about islam
and where from question of mohammad pbuh came, i wrote many things on mohammad, the comment that i replied demanded me to brought what jesus spoke were taken from islamic source(hadith,quran) bcoz many things christians missonaries apread are not in their bible, many things people know about jesus are taken from islamic source, that was my point, and i pointed that out with proof. If you want to know about mohammad then read what father of nation said about him
Allah is great, keep Muhammad out! Why you guys are idolizing this man?
Dear readers,
You must have heard about Malala, a teenage student, who was propagating women education in muslim community but the fundamentalist did not like it and they belive that once women are educated they will not believe in islamic cruel laws against them. Muslim males want them to be a sex object only.
I have personally seen the pathetic condition of muslim girls in war affected zones of Syria and Iraq. Really their condition is like a prostitute, the terrorist use them as per their pleasure.
Mac Bastard is also one of the terrorist sympathizer and try to prove the inhuman and anti humanity laws of Koran. Rightly he has been named as Mutta product.
malala is completely islamic girl, she was agaisnt terrorists group funded by US, islam never said that women shouldn`t have education, stop your propaganda, people now a days are not fool
Dear brother amritesh, you said “”right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion but today it is codemned coz it is wrong. “””” no brother its is not true…………..
According to the teachings of Islam, education is very important. The first revealed word of the Quran commanded the believers to “Read!”
This command did not distinguish between male and female believers. The first wife of the Prophet Muhammad, Khadeeja, was a successful businesswoman in her own right. The Prophet Muhammad praised the women of Madinah for their pursuit of knowledge: “How splendid were the women of the Ansar; shame did not prevent them from becoming learned in the faith.” At various other times, the Prophet Muhammad told his followers:
**“Acquisition of knowledge is binding on all Muslims, male and female.”
***M/b>”Seek knowledge, from the cradle to the grave.”
***“Acquire knowledge, even if you have to go to China for it.”
***”The person who goes forth in search of knowledge is striving hard in the way of Allah, until his/her return.”
Indeed, throughout history many Muslim women were involved in the founding of educational institutions. Most notable of these is Fatima al-Fihri, who established the University of Al-Karaouine in 859 CE. This university remains, according to UNESCO and others, the oldest continually-running university in the world.
So, look , in 859CE muslim women were involved in founding Universities and you were talking about ban of education is ISLAM, common little brother, this is public platform, before writting anything please do check your facts. Thanks
mac is here
You Idiot amritesh, your this comment “””i respect every religion n for me love and humanity is above everything and dont respect any reglion WHICH REGARDS WOMEN “WEAK” open your mind habibi matromonials n see the truth. right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion but today it is codemned coz it is wrong. “””””–
that means you disrespect hinduism and i will tell you why:-
1.Women are fickle minded. Never believe them. Friendship with a women is just like friendship with a wolf. (Rig-Veda)
2.A virtuous woman is one who dies on the funeral pyre of her dead husband and avails the privilege of serving her husband in the other world. (Atharva Veda 18-3-1)
3.Women are liers, corrupt, greedy, and unvirtuous. (Manu II 1)
4.One should not sit in a lonely place with one’s mother, sister or daughter, for the senses are powerful, and master even a learned man.” (Manu II. 215)
now i am sure you don`t beileve this about your sister,mother or your girlfriend_lover, that means you reject hinduism, is it or not???
Also these are few verses, there are many such verses
And you said //right to education was banned for a female in muslim religion but today it is codemned coz it is wrong. /// show me any country where right to education was banned, it was banned in europe and at that time muslim women used to study, don`t put foolish comment, you have not qualified much to write in public platform, first educate yourself enough then think of commenting in public platform , all people are not fool like you.
Also there is nothing like muslim religion, `those who submits to god` is referred to as `muslim` in arabic
Also half of the islamic knowledge that we have is because of a women, if women are out of islam, if sayings of women are out of islam then we will have to loose 50% of islamic knowledge, i am talking about Aisha, in amy times she used to say what to do what not to do and people used to believe her.
And soory for my harsh word as i beileve lying is worst than harsh word, you lied thats why i used harsh word, so soory for that
amritesh , you idiot, literated uneducated buddy, islam is the only religion which said women must have education, read what mohammd pbuh said
“And when the female (infant) buried alive – is questioned, for what crime she was killed.” (Qur’an 81:8-9).
Criticizing the attitudes of such parents who reject their female children, Allah Says in Qur’an : “When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief! With shame does he hide himself from his people, Because of the bad news He has had! Shall he retain it On (sufferance and) contempt, Or bury it in the dust? Ah! what an evil (choice) They decide on? (The Noble Quran, 16:58-59)“
Prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him) said: Narrated AbuSa’id al-Khudri: “The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone cares for three daughters, disciplines them, marries them, and does good to them, he will go to Paradise. (Translation of Sunan abu Dawud, Book 41, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Number 512 8) “
Far from saving the girl’s life so that she may later suffer injustice and inequality, Islam requires kind and just treatment for her. Among the sayings of Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) in this regard are the following:
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) said “Whosoever has a daughter and he does not bury her alive, does not insult her, and does not favor his son over her, God will enter him into Paradise”. (Ibn Hanbal, No. 1957).
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) said
Whosoever supports two daughters till they mature, he and I will come in the day of judgment as this (and he pointed with his two fingers held together). (Ibn-Hanbal, No. 2104).
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) said about female children:
“A daughter is a lovely child; affectionate, eager to help, mild and full of sacred feelings of motherhood.”
@ Mac, Show what Muslims are doing all over the world. If the religion is so good, why it’s followers are so brutal and uncivilised, nefarious, barbaric & cruel ? Muslims are the enemy of the civilisation. Whole world knows it . Don’t try to glorify the most worst religion.
All i can say its media, or join US Foreign policy dept, or CIA, then you will know what is what and who is who
Hi Amritesh,
Muslim have not learned anything other than convert convert and convert, that all. They cannot tolerate any one in their life, and they wish to see this whole world just like all Muslim countries (open newspaper and you will know what we mean).
You have raised excellent question, “shouldnt she sacrifice equally….?” and also answered it well that “all illogical things”. Islam does not see any logic except to follow Muhammad’s teachings, so be ready to convert.
Read suggested articles and argue with her why this conversion business? It will take 4-6 years to educate her. Keep working on her and ultimately she will come to senses. If not, dump her or get converted.