Richard says: February 16, 2018 at 10:38 am
Dear humano,
Hope I’m not too late for asking this from you based on what you had gone through and shared with us.
I’m currently having the same situation with which you had. I’m a Malaysian Chinese Buddhist while my dearest is a Indonesian Muslim. We fall in love with each other deeply. Both of us respects each other’s religion and we would like to settle down in Malaysia. Problem is I’m unable to convert to Muslim due to issue with my own family.
We feels each of us are irreplaceable and we would like to find out what options are available for us, in order for us to be able to living in Malaysia.
Thank you.
-Richard
Richard says:
Dear admin,
Thanks for the advises given, I’ve been reading much of your replied to others who seek for advises and really appreciate what you’ve been done so far.
There’s something to share with you and anyone who would like to know about this, which I found it is very curious and I would like to find out. 2 days ago I come across to a person who is a Indonesian Muslim girl where she had the same experience about 4 years ago, with her lover which is a Malaysian chinese (Buddhist).
According to her own experience, because both of them are from different country and religion, they were being told that they are allow to convert to each other’s religion from JPN (Jabatan Pendaftaran Negara). Which means it is either the Chinese Buddhist guy convert to Muslim or the Indonesian Muslim girl convert to Buddhist. However, sadly for them they didn’t proceed to marry at the end due to their family strongly against it on different culture.
But from my side, I can see some light and hope. Provided I need to discuss about this deeply with her and her family and my family as well about this. Myself have no issue with her to continue practicing Islam eventhough she had converted to Buddhist later (if she is ok with it). I don’t even mind our future children to be Muslim too. I respect her and her religion. However in order for us to get marry and settle down in Malaysia, as of now this is the only way I could find.
Any comment and thoughts from admin or anyone who experienced the same would be much appreciated. Thank you. -Richard
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Richard,
We are glad you are unable to convert to Islam, especially fake conversion to please Malay government.
Remember … Muhammad said: “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9.84.57). Unless you are sure you wish Islam to be your faith for your next 1000 generation, don’t convert.
Read these Malay laws and lets discuss more later. Do keep in touch with us.
https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=11100
Dear admin,
Thanks for the advises given, I’ve been reading much of your replied to others who seek for advises and really appreciate what you’ve been done so far.
There’s something to share with you and anyone who would like to know about this, which I found it is very curious and I would like to find out. 2 days ago I come across to a person who is a Indonesian Muslim girl where she had the same experience about 4 years ago, with her lover which is a Malaysian chinese (Buddhist).
According to her own experience, because both of them are from different country and religion, they were being told that they are allow to convert to each other’s religion from JPN (Jabatan Pendaftaran Negara). Which means it is either the Chinese Buddhist guy convert to Muslim or the Indonesian Muslim girl convert to Buddhist. However, sadly for them they didn’t proceed to marry at the end due to their family strongly against it on different culture.
But from my side, I can see some light and hope. Provided I need to discuss about this deeply with her and her family and my family as well about this. Myself have no issue with her to continue practicing Islam eventhough she had converted to Buddhist later (if she is ok with it). I don’t even mind our future children to be Muslim too. I respect her and her religion. However in order for us to get marry and settle down in Malaysia, as of now this is the only way I could find.
Any comment and thoughts from admin or anyone who experienced the same would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
-Richard
Are you saying “her (a Muslim) … converted to Buddhist” in Malaysia? This is next to impossible. Show me how is she going to be able to erase “Islam” out of her MyKad identity card? Read this “Miss Revathi Massosai was born to Muslim converts and given a Muslim name, but she was raised as a Hindu by her grandmother and has always practiced Hindu faith. However, under Malaysia’s Islamic law, having Muslim parents makes one a Muslim and, as such, one is not allowed to change one’s faith or marry a non-Muslim. But Miss Massosai married a Hindu man in 2004 and the couple has a young daughter. When in January 2007 she asked a court to officially designate her as a Hindu she was detained and taken to an Islamic rehabilitation center. Her detention was twice extended to six months, during which time she says religious officials tried to make her pray as a Muslim and wear a headscarf. She is adamant that she will remain a Hindu. In the meantime, Miss Revathi and her daughter have been placed in the custody of her Muslim parents.”
Muhammad said: “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9.84.57). How any Muslim will go against such guidance and will give another Muslim freedom of expression of religion (meaning leaving Islam)? There is no (similar) freedom in Islam. It’s only one way street, you get in but never out.
If necessary, are you interested in converting to Islam? Even fake-conversion? Please have a lengthy discussion with us before you make a decision to convert. If available, read my book. Lets talk more.
Hi admin,
Yes according to the lady’s past experience. She claimed that she was allowed to convert from Islam to Buddhist which really puzzles me… I’m quite skeptical on this but of course I’d hope it is true.
I’m fully understood on what Muhammad said about changing one’s religion from Muslim to other religion.
To be frank, myself did think of convert to Muslim. But my currently family situation is avoiding myself from doing it because I’m the only son in the family. Which means I would have to “worship or praying” my parents when they had “left this world” in future in Buddhist way of praying.
I was made to understand that (please correct me if I’m wrong), if I’ve converted to Muslim later and still be praying my parents in Buddhist way of praying, my future wife will be commited to sin according to Islam’s teaching. I don’t really hope she gets the sin from what I do later. I really love her and I don’t wish to have these sins on herself.
As for fake convertion, yes… I did ever think that too but the same issue as above… sin on my future wife. If possible we don’t wish to have this way.
Islam is not like Buddhism, Islam takes going out of faith very very seriously. You and your future generations will not have any other flexibility (to be even partial Buddhist). For this reason, on “I’m quite skeptical on this but of course I’d hope it is true.” remain skeptical and not hopeful.
Any Muslim will tell you that this is absolute sin in Islam to “still be praying my parents in Buddhist way of praying”. DO NOT LIE AND DECEIVE others. Convert to Islam only if you truly believe in Muhammad’s teachings, Koran and Islamic belief in the Judgment Day. She may say anything to fake-convert you out of love, but don’t put her in sinful situation.