Kartar says: April 24, 2013 at 12:31 pm
I am a Sikh boy 32 years working in a food shop in Toronto and in love with a Muslim girl 26 years, who was thrown out of her in-laws house on the 2nd day of marriage; as she did not bleed on the wedding night, by her husband.
Though he was already married, but he wanted his wife to be virgin. She is working as Chef and myself as Cashier. She says that she will leave Islam and adopt Sikh religion after our marriage in a Gurudwara. She is so nice and intelligent that I am ready to accept her as it is.
My parents have also seen her and they have given permission. Regarding her mother (no father now), she says whatever she feels good, do it.
May I get some positive suggestions? –Kartar
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Kartar,
You story is a simple one; just go for it. She has already seen the dark side of Islam and she is ready to leave it. Both sets of parents are ready. Please give her the URL (https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=5221) of this web site and ask her to express herself and take guidance straight from other Muslim sisters. Best wishes. Keep us posted for how it goes, thanks. -Admin
Kartar says: April 30, 2013 at 10:53 am
Hello every body,
Satsriakal and Wahe guruji ki fateh, wahe guruji ka Khalasa,
We both have married on the last Sunday and really so happy to find her for everlasting relationship and grow my own family with her.
Thanks to all the well wishers. -Kartar
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Not a single person in this forum with a muslim name is actually a Muslim.. That’s the beauty of the internet.. You can be who you want to be and say what you like.. isn’t it..
Hello every body,
Satsriakal and Wahe guruji ki fateh, wahe guruji ka Khalasa,
We both have married on the last Sunday and really so happy to find her for everlasting relationship and grow my own family with her.
Thanks to all the well wishers.
Kartar
Our heartiest congratulations. We are very happy for you both.
Kartar, even you knew that she is married and still accepting her “as is” is very admirable. You have very admirable qualities.
Please give her lots of love, respect and dignity that she deserves. Please ask her to come to this site to guide others. Best wishes.
Sat Sri Akal brother
I read your story I am just wondering is there any problems afterwards you had to face? Im in love with a moroccan muslim girl as well. Our parents are very understanding just worried about her dad man. I hope both of you have had and get more happiness into your life. !! 🙂
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Rape in Islam and Its Four Witnesses
Saturday, 27 February 2010 12:08
Ridiculous thinking and laws concerning rape in Islam…
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A new friend I met was expressing her concern about the mistreatment of women in the Islamic world. One issue that resonated strongly with her was that of male rapists going scot-free, while the raped women are often blamed for the rape and can even be punished under some Sharia courts.
Before getting to the Islamic roots of many of these illogical views on rape Islam has, we need to learn a bit about a rumour the Islamic prophet’s youngest child bride, Aisha, suffered from.
(This note isn’t intended to be a thorough analysis, but just some quick insights. This issue can take up volumes, I am sure.)
Details on a scandal involving Aisha is well-documented in Islamic texts of the Hadith and Sira (e.g. Sahih Muslim, Book 37, Number 6673; Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 829).
The stories narrated are long, but to summarize, Aisha was accompanying a Muslim army, and she was one day erroneously left behind. A Muslim who lagged behind the army found her and she accompanied him back to the Muslim army.
Some Muslims spread accusations against her that she had had intercourse with the man. Aisha strongly denied this and was very hurt, but the rumours continued.
Eventually, Quranic revelations were revealed in which Aisha was declared innocent of the rumours being spread:
Quran 24: 13-16:
Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah. And were it not for Allah’s grace upon you and His mercy in this world and the hereafter, a grievous chastisement would certainly have touched you on account of the discourse which you entered into. When you received it with your tongues and spoke with your mouths what you had no knowledge of, and you deemed it an easy matter while with Allah it was grievous. And why did you not, when you heard it, say: It does not beseem us that we should talk of it; glory be to Thee! this is a great calumny?
سورة النور
لَوْلَا جَاءُوا عَلَيْهِ بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَاءَ ۚ فَإِذْ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِالشُّهَدَاءِ فَأُولَٰئِكَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ هُمُ الْكَاذِبُونَ
وَلَوْلَا فَضْلُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَتُهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ لَمَسَّكُمْ فِي مَا أَفَضْتُمْ فِيهِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
إِذْ تَلَقَّوْنَهُ بِأَلْسِنَتِكُمْ وَتَقُولُونَ بِأَفْوَاهِكُمْ مَا لَيْسَ لَكُمْ بِهِ عِلْمٌ وَتَحْسَبُونَهُ هَيِّنًا وَهُوَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمٌ
وَلَوْلَا إِذْ سَمِعْتُمُوهُ قُلْتُمْ مَا يَكُونُ لَنَا أَنْ نَتَكَلَّمَ بِهَٰذَا سُبْحَانَكَ هَٰذَا بُهْتَانٌ عَظِيمٌ
Quran 24:4 states that those who fail to bring four witnesses would be flogged:
And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, (giving) eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors.
سورة النور
وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ الْمُحْصَنَاتِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَاءَ فَاجْلِدُوهُمْ ثَمَانِينَ جَلْدَةً وَلَا تَقْبَلُوا لَهُمْ شَهَادَةً أَبَدًا ۚ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْفَاسِقُونَ
From this, Islamic theologians stated that, in order to prove adultery or similar types of sexual misconduct, four male witnesses should be produced. The witness of a female is at most worth half that of a man’s, and limited to financial transactions (Quran 2:282).
As I understand it (and as I was raised to understand it), the rule of four witnesses was intended to protect Muslim women from being falsely labeled as having had forbidden intercourse (zina). That said, some Islamic clergy extended this rule to a bizarre situation: A woman claiming to have been raped will need to produce to the Sharia court four male witnesses to prove her case against the rapist. If she cannot produce four witnesses, her case turns into a chastity crime and is thus punished accordingly. Alternatively, she may be punished for making perceived false accusations. Also, at least one school of jurisprudence considers pregnancy sufficient evidence for sexual misconduct, so if a rape victim becomes pregnant and she cannot prove the rape, she can face lashing or death by stoning.
For example, Pakistan had been implementing the Hudood Ordinance for more than two decades, and it provided the requirements described above regarding rape victims. It was only relatively recently that a Women’s Protection Bill was passed that allows rape victims to charge their rapists under civil law. It was strongly opposed by religious Pakistani party members.
In Iran, Nazanin Mahabad Fatehi faced the death penalty for defending herself and her niece from being raped. As she defended herself with a knife, she stabbed one of the attempted rapists to his death. Without four male witnesses, she faced the death sentence. (She was released due to intense international and media attention.)
I also found a decent article on these issues on BBC: Debate rages over women and Sharia.
There’s also an impression, among a large number of Muslim followers, that if a woman is raped, it’s usually her fault; that her mere presence in the street without a veil, for example, has ‘tempted’ the poor man to rape her. A notorious example of this mentality among Western Muslims is a 7th century misogynistic Australian barbarian called Taj El-Din Al-Hilali, who said in a Friday sermon that if a woman gets raped, it is mostly the woman’s fault because she wasn’t in her home. He also said:
“If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem.”
Bigots come and go, but what’s disturbing in his case is that he is a leading Muslim figure in Australia, and that the Friday after his remarks were publicized, 5000 Muslims in Australia actually cheered in support of his remarks. Other Muslim leaders supported him, too (example).
I will need to make it clear and obvious that raping Muslim women is absolutely forbidden in Islam. However, there are some Muslims who go on raping rampages on non-Muslim women in Western countries, and they find justification for it, partly because “it’s the woman’s fault for going out without the veil”, and partly because of verses like Quran 4:24 and Quran 23:6, which permit a Muslim male to take non-Muslim women after a battle and keep them as war booty and as slaves (see my detailed note on this here). Those rapists tend not to look at the West favorably and consider themselves at war with it already, so they find their women legitimate for them. I have not heard of any scholar explicitly allow this though. There’s a very disturbing account of immigrant rape trends here.
Fmg, rape, honor killing are not allowed in islam thouse who do these practice donot fallow islam
vist
http://www.alsiraj.net/English/misc/women/html/page01.html to know about women in islam
honor killing is not allowed in islam vist
to know more about it
http://www.questionsaboutislam.com/women-in-islam/islam-honour-killing.php
FMG NOT ALLOWED IN ISLAM Vist
http://www.minaret.org/fgm-pamphlet.htm
Rape not allowed in islam vist
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/Women/rape_in_islam.asp
http://www.faithinallah.org/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female-sex-slaves-or-keep-unmarried-concubines/
tohsin dont bark…we dont need any of it.product of mutta marriage.or mayb product of a blood related marriage.do ur parents resemble each other??they must be brother n sister.n u r d deficient mentally challenged child of them.result of marriage within same family blood.which is common to most muslims.sick.thank god ur not deformed.are u?then u wouldnt be barking here.rascals.dogs.pigs.worser rats.u,zahid ,indian all are same.cant accept fact about urself.go take some digestion pills.
Dear hates Islam,
I can understand your anger against Tohsin but it is his mistake, not of his mother as she being a Muslim woman, has been the victim of Islam or Muhammad. She needs to be sympathised, not abused. She is also like our own mother/sister and deserves respect. It’s unfortunate that the women have to undergo ignominy due to other’s misbehaviour as is happening to Tohsin’s mother due to Tohsin’s foul mouth. Tohsin should realise this fact and instead of using expletive words, should come up with reason. We are here to share our experiences, not to show how arrogant and uncivilized we are.
May Allah give them hidayat to rescue from the slavery of Muhammad!
Hello readers,
Islam is not a religion but a criminal, terrorist and evil practice ideology against humanity.
The founder of the relgion was rapist of grand daughter like kids, murders of millions, rapist women till his death. Madharchod prophet?
Dear Kartar,
Hearty congratulations. God bless you always.
Tohsin,
Dont bark like a mad dog. Perhaps you are also the product of Mutta marriage like Zahid and Zunaid. Your mother must have entertained in a prostitution and then you were born.
Harami Pilla
Dear Sofia,
I can understand your anger against Tohsin but it is his mistake, not of his mother as she being a Muslim woman, has been the victim of Islam or Muhammad. She needs to be sympathised, not abused. She is also like our own mother/sister and deserves respect. It’s unfortunate that the women have to undergo ignominy due to other’s misbehaviour as is happening to Tohsin’s mother due to Tohsin’s foul mouth. Tohsin should realise this fact and instead of using expletive words, should come up with reason. We are here to share our experiences, not to show how arrogant and uncivilized we are.
May Allah give them hidayat to rescue from the slavery of Muhammad!
Dear Katar Ji,
Go ahead & accept her as your Soul Mate.
Wiish you a Happy & Prosperous Married Life. “BRAVO”
Kartarji,
Congratulations and wishing you a very happy and blissful life.
Yasmeen,
Thank you for educating others, we need your help.
Please use this URL to identify you (as your web site or at the end of your message) so others know who you are… https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=5226
hey u bitch yasmeen don’t celebrate.. U’l gt 2knw aftr u’l b kickd 2hell
Here comes an idiotic comment from fundamentalists, and then he says Islam is peaceful.