Dena says: December 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm
My name is Dena and m living in united state, I am a Muslim girl. And I meet this boy he is Sikh Hindu. We both love each other there is big story behind this. I am completely Muslim and he is completely Hindu. We understand each other’s religion views and we are in big situation which is getting married…I am telling him to convert to Islam and that way we both would be happy after all and even allay would be too. He doesn’t want to change he’s religion because he’s parents thought him and he wants me to Change my religion to Sikh…
And by the ways I am 18 years old and he is 23 year old… We both live in American in the same state..
I was thinking, I stopped talking to him but I couldn’t because I love him so much. I am lost totally lost with my question what do I have to do, for example do I have to change or do I have to get married and stay Muslim in his house? Not following his religion? Plzzzz help me….-Dena
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Inter religions and interracial marriages are the order of the day. A LARGE PERCENTAGE Of Jewish and south Asian boys and girls are marrying out side their religion and race in the United States, Canada and in the United Kingdom. Muslims are no exception they too are marrying in other races and religions. If, two adults are in love and feel compatible with each other , then race and religion should not be a hurdle. Each person can worship their own religion. if, are blessed with children as a result of their marriage , they should allow their adult children to follow what ever religion they want to worship. My own three children married outside my religion and race. No one has converted to each other religion. They are living in harmony and have children. Their marriages were conducted according to their prefer wishes. I have also known few Muslim girls from Pakistan and Hindu girls from India who have married outside their race and religions and enjoying a successful marriage. Success of such marriages depend on the broader and flex attitude on the part of the parents, siblings and the adults who are involved in such marriages. As per Sikhism, there is no Hindu or Muslim. We are are His Children.
Reply at https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=11038
Dena,
What was your reason to get in love with a non-Muslim guy? There are 45% of Muslim girls in America also marry outside Islam, so you are not any different than them.
We have one question for you. What type of dream husband you have in mind. Do you want a husband just like your dad? Tell us are you very proud of all treatments (true respect, never shout at, ask for opinion on all major events, never fight or speak with high voice, always talking loving matters to each other, always happy, respects mother’s family, help in house chores like cooking and cleaning dishes, etc) received by your mother from your father?
In Quran surah nur chapter 17 v 2
”The [Unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexualintercourse— lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion [i.e. law] of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.”
The about quoted verse from the holy Quran clearly says to lash them by the group of beliver and witness to their punishment.
Thats why i said you to read it once again. . without reading i dont know why u always asking cross questions
yah you are right dena is innocent girl thats why her boy friend has trapped her to do sexually before marriage though Islam is against this act . if she belive in Allah..if she read Quran.. if she offer salah five times a day then how she came to do this shamefull act which is against in islam. .
Thats why i told previously that there is no guarentee that her boy friend will be going to marry her in her future. .
is there any chances admin?
// There are 45% of Muslim girls in America marry outside Islam //
There is not a strong evidence that 45% muslim girls in america marry outside islam . .
If that is the case then more than 45% hindus marring outside hinduism in india
Dena, Explain if these apply to you, “found guilty of sexualintercourse” and “her boy friend has trapped her to do sexually”. We did not read that earlier. Are these true accusations on you by Muhammed?
Mohammed, to your question, “is there any chances admin?”, we hope not. Our clear position (that is load and clear, all over) that NO BBS. We hope the Sikh boy dump Dena now, if she insist on conversion business. If Dena want a Muslim boy, she should look in her local mosque and pick a guy who seriously performing namaz five times a day. Even that guy is poor, not educated and lightly beat her after marriage, Dena should feel happy in that marriage because her position in heaven is secured (and heaven for her husband here and there!!). As a Muslim, this life should not be important but the after life. If Dena believes in enjoying this life (we hope), then she should forget this conversion business and marry her lover. It’s her choice.
In the same surah ie. , surah noor chapter 24 v 3 (sorry !! i have given wrong chapter number on previous comments .. its chapter 24 not 17)
Allah says in quran chapter 24 v 3
” The fornicator does not marry except a [female] fornicator or polytheist, and none marries her except a fornicator or a polytheist, and that [i.e. marriage to such persons] has been made unlawful to the believers.”
So its not possible to the beliver(muslims) to marry dena according to this verse and none can marries dena except her boy friend
Dena,
You live in a free world. What all these restrictive teachings means to you? Do you feel these are all logical and you wish to follow through out your whole life? Now Muhammed says you could marry only to your Sikh boy friend. What are you going to do now?
Let dena will come to discuss further. .
Dear Dena, people like jainab who is in madly love with a hindu boy and who left islam and makes mockery of islam and muslim women will say things like :-
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jainab says:
December 21, 2015 at 10:09 am
Dear Dena.asslam.only one thing no body knows what after death,but we can make our this life Jannatby adopting a genuine way of behaving our friends our society our fellows.There are some persons on this blog,who always try to spread fear of jahannum and other consequences if we want to live a happy and colourful life.These guys always try to brainwash and that is the first step towards extremism.Now its up to you what is better for you.would you like to live according to rules and environment of fifth century or like to live a life full of joys as per todays environment.Thanks..Khuda hafiz…Jainab.
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But people like Jianab will not tell you why death exist, why people die, isn`t it nice that we live together here for eternal, why we leave our loved ones though we don`t want to and leave this world for ever?
If her logic is true that no one knows what will happen after that so it there is nothing wrong in going against god`s rule, then by same logic a criminal will say who knows what happens after death, lets go against god and rob people, rape women, kill innocent people, etc etc, because jainab here is trying to suggest that going against Allah and doing zina makes you happy then it is right think to do, same way many people gets happy by drinking wine, smoking cigaret etc, does that mean they are also right by logic of jainab, whether jainab is right or wrong but onething is clear her logic is flawed. She also advocated that we can create jannant here, now this girl jainab is very weak in islam, she doesn`t know what jannat is, that is why she made such comment, because Allah in Qur’an says that jannat will be a place which no human have ever seen and no human can imagine and no one knows except Allah what is in heaven, heaven is beyond human imagination, so don`t get mislead by the jannat that jainab is referring to coz her jannat revolves around her bf, fasting for bf LOL 🙂 is jannat for her, this worldly tall buildings, shopping malls, restaurants, long drive with non-mehrem man and going against islam etc are jannat for her, if for sake of argument lets assume she is right, then what about very very poor people, how will they get jannat in this world exactly same like higher class people enjoy, only god in his jannat can give this not human, hundred years ago there used to be poor people and today also there are poor people,infact most of people in world are poor people, so jannat is not going to establish in this world in any near , also allah says in jannat there will be no violence as greed,anger,all bad desire,etc will be removed from heart of people, while in this world ,it is full criminal people for which innocent people are dying and died and now since i said this, jainab will quickly jump to people like osama bin laden who was muslim, but if you show him non-muslim people who did evil she will defend them and will say these are only few examples, you are cherry picking from internet, you are intolerant toward others, you are extremist etc etc
She also told you why to live in this life by the rules of 5th century, while she infact is following rules which are even older like katwa chawt, you can refer here [ https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=10165#comment-362564 ] where she was uplifting thousand years old feudal anti-women practice which in today most of educated women denounce while for jainab these are good things and this was my reply to her for which she had no reply [ https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=10165#comment-366210 ]
Dear sister Dena, since you said you are a muslim girl so it`s clear that you believe in Quran and to be word of Allah. Also you said you are pious muslim. So it`s no doubt that you believe in Islam, now you may have done little mistake here and there which we all do but important thing is that you have faith in Allah. But do you know Allah says it is sin to marry someone who doesn`t believe in Islam, Allah in Quran chapter 2 verse 221 says that donot marry a non-muslim man until he accept islam, and marriage with a slave man is better than a marriage with a non-believing man even if he pleases you. So here it is clear that Allah rejects non-muslim boys not personality problem but for faith problem as his faith will take you to hell fire, but Allah in that verse doesn`t deny your marriage with him, Allah says your marriage is only permissible only when he convert to islam, suppose you marry him without making him muslim, now how will you marry her as court marriage or Sikh marriage will not be acceptable as per islam and thus your marriage will be considered as zina in front of Allah, one or two zina can be pardonable but if you do zina intentionally through out your life, then how will you show your face to Allah you created you, also what will happen to you after you death, your husband in hell and you in heaven, if you stay as muslim and let your husband be a non-muslim, then it means you don`t love your fb truly from heart coz knowingly you are letting him go towards hell, also if he had truly loved you, he would have never committed you to zina, Allah is very kind and forgivable, if you repent to Allah and ask forgiveness he will forgive you. So basically you have two option, either make him muslim and marry him and live happy(peaceful) a marriage life here as well as eternal life with him in heaven or leave islam and marry him and live a happy life only here(remeber you will not have peaceful life here in this world if you marry a non-muslim as yo always will suffer that guilt feeling and the guilt of society) and life of hell fire after death, so option is in your hand, choose which one you like.
Thanks 🙂
Mac
If you have any doubt to what i said, then read Quran Verse 221 from sura bakra, i will post in both arabic and in english
“وَلَا تَنكِحُوا الْمُشْرِكَاتِ حَتَّىٰ يُؤْمِنَّ ۚ وَلَأَمَةٌ مُّؤْمِنَةٌ خَيْرٌ مِّن مُّشْرِكَةٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَتْكُمْ ۗ وَلَا تُنكِحُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَتَّىٰ يُؤْمِنُوا ۚ وَلَعَبْدٌ مُّؤْمِنٌ خَيْرٌ مِّن مُّشْرِكٍ وَلَوْ أَعْجَبَكُمْ ۗ أُولَـٰئِكَ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى النَّارِ ۖ وَاللَّهُ يَدْعُو إِلَى الْجَنَّةِ وَالْمَغْفِرَةِ بِإِذْنِهِ ۖ وَيُبَيِّنُ آيَاتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَذَكَّرُونَ” [Quran 2:221]
Translation : “And do not marry polytheistic[non-muslim] women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember”
I strongly believe that Allah writes your destiny before you came into life, hence Allah may have chosen this guy to be your boyfriend however there is no certainty that he is the right one for you. If he truly loves you then no matter what he will be ready to accept Islam and not force you to convert because love is another name for sacrifice. Even if a Muslim girl does not fully cover themselves it does not mean that they don’t truly believe in Allah. They do not need to show off but in fact there heart and intentions must be pure because Allah will judge and not your parents or other Muslims out there. We have no right to tell someone how to lead their life because we are not God and Allah has given each individual their own life for a purpose so u can make your own decisions and not get involved in others life. As a Muslim I will say it’s your decision whether you want to marry a non-Muslim, but don’t convert because that’s a greater sin (shirk) than falling in love with a non-Muslim, also when Allah created us he didn’t form us to hate one another because of our religion, we are all equal in the eyes of Allah hence religion can’t be a factor to differentiate from one another.
I was hindu by birth before i married my muslim wife 4 months ago, initially i was reluctant to become muslim and also due to my parents pressure, later my wife taught me basic things about islam and i started liking islam, her parents were also against our marriage, once i became muslim our marriage got easy, we easily got married without any hurdle, my mother was bit upset with my conversion to islam,when she saw me following islam, she realised that islam is not a bad religion and thus accepted me as muslim. You also introduce your husband to islam, many hindu guys convert to islam, its nothing new.
I am this https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8853 akash
Admin i m akash, why you blocked me from posting in your forrum?
Dena,
You are too young to take decision rationally. Is your BF an earning hand?
take some time may be 1/2 years to consider this issu.
Dena
i remember when i was on your age teenager ..at that age 18/19 youth are rushed by emotional love feeling at that time i was too much impressed by western life ..no pray no fast etc.
but i was still having a strong relation with my religion ..my faith
i did not like (w.life) to affect my beleive in god
do not love who dose not respect your religion
and remember we are all going ..no body will stay but allah and islam ..if you can spare your life from death and what is after death ..do what you want or else ..forget him ..and be brave
I dont think so that its a true story. . . Its like a fake one !!
Hello Mohammad
It’s not a fake story.. Why do I have to lie when allah knows everything upper me?
You already know Allah is all hearing and all knowing then why u have a relationship with a non-muslim guy..
you are disobeying Allah(s.w.t)
Hello Dena,
You are only 18. In America, people don’t generally marry at 18. Check statistics and you will find that marriages at 18 does not last long. For this reason, be friend with him but do not get married for next few years. Meantime finish your education.
What does Islam means to you? Are you covering your hair, performing namaz five times a day and lower your eyes when you see someone from the other sex (Koran 24:30)? If you are not ready to be a true Muslim, why you are expecting a Sikh to be a Muslim?
If you think you are a born Muslim but not necessary be a true Muslim, then go marry to him by a court marriage. This way, no one has to convert. You follow your faith and he will follow his faith. Your children could follow both faiths. Check with his and your parents if they are okay with this plan. If not, then 1) give up this boy friend or 2) wait a few more years, get a good job and then both go marry and stay in a new state separate from both parents. Best wishes.
I am a strict Muslim and I pray five time a day even read Koran.. One hand I love him so much and other hand I am scared of God punishment after death.. Is it possible to get married in court and we both can follow our own religion?
But there is one big secret behind this story that I have (Zina) and I so shameful of myself in front of Allah. I do duwa to Allah and I’m asking show me my path, I’m asking him for forginess..
Dear Sister,
You are already comitted a big sin and instead of asking forgiveness to Allah(s.w.t).. you want to marry a mushrik(non-muslim) boy.
It is not allowed to marry a mushrik for a muslim. . He is trapping you and keeping you faraway from your religion islam…
Though if you want to marry him remember that you are going far away from your religion.
if you pray namaz five time and also read Quran then you wont do like this. .A true muslim can commit zina(a big sin) nor he/she can thought to marry a mushrik
My suggestion is you can forget that guy and imediately ask forgiveness to Allah(s.w.t)
Do you know what is the punishment for zina. A death
if you are a strict muslim then iam sorry strict muslim wont be a relationship with non-muslim and commit zina. .
Hi Muhammed,
This is very interesting and would like to learn more: “Do you know what is the punishment for zina. A death”.
Everyone is going to die someday, so what is your point?
Even a good Muslim die by car accident and cancer. So let Allah do what ever.
Tell us who will conduct this DEATH sentence?
Most countries don’t kill people for getting into love relationship with others.
Do you mean DEATH other Muslims?.
Do you think you will ever get involved in such act? If not, are you just trying to scare this innocent girl Dena?
Please explain us in details.
Admin,
You should be aware that Mohammed tries desperately for a seat in heaven by hanging on to every word of the Book.
Have a look at Mohammed’s opinion for robbing:
/“For these verse .. yes its a punishment for those people who are robbers. .
iam asking a question to you that if your law does not want to cut the hands which has been robbed,
robbing cases will be low or high?
affcourse high !! apply the law you will get the result”’/
https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=10773
Islamic punishments are very humane: robbing‐ chop of arms and legs, apostasy‐ beheading, blasphemy‐ lashings, imprisonment to death… and Mohammed’s compassionate heart orders that the entire world should observe these laws!
So you need to understand that he has been very broadminded towards Dena and has just said,
/“ Do you know what is the punishment for zina. A death.”/
He is trying to be more cultured and didn’t mention ‘stoning to death’;
You need to feel happy!
Every one is going to die on one day when the time comes.. that doesnt mean there will no punnishment those who commit crime. . islam punnish for crimers.. even indian law also give punnish to hang death those who kill a person. .
for you indian law its right to give hang to death but for islamic law its wrong to give death penaltly . what a great justice that u think..
// Most countries don’t kill people for getting into love relationship with others.//
i didnt tell for getting into love relationship will be a punnishment. . .
because Dena is sexually harrasted by her boyfriend and there is no guarentee that her boy friend will be going to marry her in her future,
commiting zina is a crime in islam and those who do crime they will be punnished what is wrong in that. .
check here for detail
Allah says in the quran in surah al isra chapter 17 v 32
” and come not near to the unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a Fahishah [i.e. anything that transgresses its limits (a great sin)], and an evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allah forgives him). ”
Allah also says in the quran in surah nur chapter 17 v 2-4
” “The [Unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexualintercourse— lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion [i.e. law] of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last
Day. And let a group of the believers
witness their punishment. The fornicator does not marry except a [female] fornicator or polytheist, and none marries her except a fornicator or a polytheist, and that [i.e. marriage to such persons] has been made unlawful to the believers.
And those who accuse chaste women
(of adultery) and then do not produce four witnesses — lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient.
Except for those who repent thereafter and reform, for indeed Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
Mohammed,
You did not answered for “punishment for zina. A death”, question is WHO?
Who will kill Dena for her zina?
Is that her parents?
Is that Muslim leaders, like you?
Tell us who is going to exercise the punishment for zina, who?
Read it again !!
Explain “Dena is sexually harrasted by her boyfriend.” Dena never said that, where did you learned that? You know American laws well that sexual harassment is a major punishment, and if true, Dena should call police. Dena, did he sexually harassed you?
Muhammad, you said, “the punishment for zina. A death” but you are not explaining who will kill Dena in America. Don’t threaten this innocent girl with unclear information, you cannot fool Dena like this. There are 45% of Muslim girls in America marry outside Islam and we never heard any one getting killed due to Zina.
DENA
my suggestion is to do your best to convert him to islam ..try to show him the big difference between islam & sikhism and that it is the future religion ..if all means are closed ..dont correct mistake by an other mistake ..ask our god (tauba) and forgiveness with really faithful heart…with really faithful heart
Cut‐throat cunning advise, perfect taqiya‐ you’ll be definitely awarded with heaven!
Unbelievable! This is LOVE-JIHAD.
Dena, let the Sikh live his life as he is. Be a true Muslim, cover your face and find a good Muslim from your Mosque who is performing name five times a day. Then be a true submissive wife. If you are not happy in this life, that should not matter because better days are ahead for you in the after life.
Dear Dena.asslam.only one thing no body knows what after death,but we can make our this life Jannatby adopting a genuine way of behaving our friends our society our fellows.There are some persons on this blog,who always try to spread fear of jahannum and other consequences if we want to live a happy and colourful life.These guys always try to brainwash and that is the first step towards extremism.Now its up to you what is better for you.would you like to live according to rules and environment of fifth century or like to live a life full of joys as per todays environment.Thanks..Khuda hafiz…Jainab.
Have a look at how hurt Ahmed Noor is when a Christian says he cannot convert to Islam:
ahmad noor says September 8, 2015 at 12:42 am
/”if he is male ..he must convert ……….if female she can stay on her religion
but you can see the way of his thinking :
-i acnt convert because i promise my mum and if will be confusing for my kids (considering himself only)
-we both respect each other religion
-it is not fair to have religion to be the obstacle
if you can not convert why did you insist to marry her and you know her religion very well…that means you exploit her
you respect her religion and kicked out her religion Legislation!!!!!!!!
and who are to decide if it is fair or unfair to have religion to be the obstacle”/
https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=10505
Ahmed Noor is the person with absolutely just nature‐ males or females, he would always insist only the nonMuslims to convert!
Its extremely shocking to see how the cult‐enslaved people change colours without conscience!