S khan says: February 16, 2015 at 8:07 am
I am Muslim guy from Kashmir and I got married to a hindu girl through nikah and also through interfaith civil marriage in mumbai court..we are having irreconcible differences between us and we both want to get divorce by mutual consent.. We don’t live together bec of her ailing single mother..we had been in relationship for more than 3 years before we got married six months before.. Kindly advice the procedure of divorce. -SK
S khan says:
February 16, 2015 at 8:29 pm
Nikaah was commenced first and three days later civil court marriage… Religion is never an issue .. As I am also not practicing Muslim … But she doesn’t like Kashmir and I can’t afford to live in mumbai after huge set back in business which happened before our marriage ..I am the only son and she is also only child of single ailing mother , that also is the reason , but main issue is innumerable and irreconcible differences and ugly arguments …but we also love each other..I wanted to ask you .,, if we are still bound by Muslim personal law as nikaah was commenced first .. And being kashmiri where I have to get divorce done…we have both nikaah papers as well as marriage certificate..also if I can go for second marriage with her consent. -SK
S khan says: February 17, 2015 at 11:58 am
She mentioned her hindu name in marriage certificate..I never encourage name change unless it is objectionable to ones faith and belief… Second marriage if I can go for one more nikaah as she wants me to move into her house and keep second wife (if allowed) with my parents .. Bec I don’t encourage divorce also .. -SK
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All girls in love with a Muslim must understand polygamy practice in Islam:
mac says, “And this is where islam gives solution, his first wife doesn’t live with him, so what he should do?? Obviously 2nd marriage is the best solution. Can you give a better solution??” What would you say? What would you do if your marriage has problem in 6 months? …allow your husband to add another wife? It’s you decision and your life!
Admin is twisting to give the answer. bcoz he didnot have any better solution rather than that on mac bro question
We recommended: 1) “We hope you could talk it out or get help from a marriage counselor and make your love work” and 2) if not, get legally divorced first.
Muhammed, what would you recommend him to do?
Both option under come on divorce,
when the couple desite to separate. . divorce of law should be followed. .
Finally you didnt have any better solution. ..right
Mohammad,
You are twisting and distorting the facts the way you wish to propagate.
The persons like you are enemey of the humanity. Due to misinterpretation, terrorists take shelter of maulvies and mould islamic teachings the way they want. There is hell of difference between bookish teachings and realities of islam.
How terrorists in the name of islam are committing attrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya? Have you ever, realized as a human being?
You should be one, who should be blocked from this site for misinterpretation. Mac and Mohammad both are same, and shameless character.
I have answered all your questioned which you have asked to mac brother. .
I have prooved that you are lier and you turning here and there rubbish
its like you person who are destroying humanity with different names in the name of Religion. .
There are many muslims in the world are real practising that not belongs to any terrorist organization
EVERY COMMUNITY CONTAINS BLACK SHEEPS IN THE NAME OF TERRORIST ORGANIZATION INCLUDING RSS TERRORIST BELONGS TO HINDUISM
so keep ur mouth shut….
Mac,
Can you comment on these paragraphs:-
The Qur’an:
Qur’an (2:282) – Establishes that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man’s in court (there is no “he said/she said” gridlock in Islam).
Qur’an (24:4) – “And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them…” Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad’s favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since if there are not four male witnesses, the rape “did not occur”.
Qur’an (24:13) – “Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.”
Qur’an (2:223) – “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…” There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (5:59:462) – The background for the Qur’anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
Rape of Muslim women is against Islamic law – although the rape of non-Muslim women is not if they are ‘captured in battle’ or bought as slaves. Even the rape of a Muslim woman is almost impossible to prove under strict Islamic law (Sharia). If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.
A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no “evidence”:
However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.
Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.
Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court. (IslamWeb.net, Image)
Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of “four trustworthy men”, Islamic law amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.
Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman’s testimony then becomes a “confession” of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never “confessed” to a sexual act.
Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim “has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world… to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature.”
One of the world’s most respected Sunni scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently told an audience on his al-Jazeera television show that “To be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct.”
In 2013, Syria’s chief Mufti, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman Ali al-Dala, issued a statement that gives soldiers religious permission to rape the women they capture.
Also, there can be no such thing as rape in marriage, even if the husband has to hit the wife in order to bring about her submission. Another recent fatwa reminds a woman, she “does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her.” (Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597).
Question no 3
Qur’an (24:13) – “Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.”
Ans : This verse is depend on Question no 2
Allah says if Those(men) who are not have bring such four witness in the front of Allah they are liers
I give one example
if a men has not done rape to the women and women puts appeal in the court than men has rape on her then she wants to provide 4 witnesses to declare she is telling truth otherwise she is telling lie in the court
Question no 4 :
Qur’an (2:223) – “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…”
Ans : That is, God’s purpose in the creation of women is not merely to provide men with recreation. Their
mutual relationship is like that between a farmer and his tilth. A farmer approaches his field not just for the sake of pleasure, but to acquire
produce. Similarly, man ought to approach the tilth of the human race with the purpose of acquiring produce, that is, offspring. What is of concern to the Law of God is not the particular mode of cultivating one’s tilth, but rather that one should go only to one’s tilth and not elsewhere, and that one
should go there for the purpose of cultivation.
Jews used to say: “If one has sexual intercourse with his wife from the back, then she will deliver a squint-eyed child.”
So this Verse was revealed: “Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will .” (2.223)
Allah has not created women merely for the enjoyment and entertainment of men. The relation between the two is as serious an affair as that of a farmer and his field. The farmer does not go into his field merely for recreation
and enjoyment but for cultivations to get produce from it. In the same way, a
man should go to his wife to produce children. Allah’s law, however, is not concerned with the method of cultivation but with the demand that man should go to the field and not elsewhere and to his own field and for production .
Question no 5
Bukhari (5:59:462) – The background for the Qur’anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad’s
favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamoushusband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four
witnesses are required.
Ans : There is no such word of adultery and polygamy in this hadith. . why you are lying
I will show you the real one
Narrated ‘Aisha:
Whenever Allah’s Apostle intended to go on a journey,he used to draw lots
amongst his wives, and Allah’s Apostle used to take with him the one on whom lot fell. He drew lots amongst us during one of the Ghazwat which he
fought. The lot fell on me and so I proceeded with Allah’s Apostle after Allah’s order of veiling (the women)
had been revealed. I was carried (on the back of a camel) in my howdah and carried down while still in it
(when we came to a halt). So we went on till Allah’s Apostle had finished from that Ghazwa of his and returned.
Hence you are proved that you are a lier and wants to make other fool. .
All the mention above is copied from anti-islamic site
I Request admin to block like this persons since they are not hear for giving solution rather they are foolishing peoples with lies
Muslim guys are not trustworthy. They are guided by evil teachings of islam. They never respect females, interpret laws according to their choices, for example, male can keep 4 wives, females need 4 eye witnesses to prove rape against her, she has to face several restrictions in movement, education and job.
Non muslim girls should not get trapping from muslim guys who are initially very polite, submissive and kind hearted. After marriage, worst days begin for the females, one by one evils under carpet come to reality.
Similarly, what is halala, just to insult and degrade morals of female.
No male has been stonned to death, only female is killed by stonning, whereas males are equally responsible in such cases.
@Raesing(admin), will you please stop spreading lies. Where you found female needs 4eye witness to prove rape? You are spreading this lie from atleast three years. And this is where islam gives solution, his first wife doesn’t live with him, so what he should do?? Obviously 2nd marriage is the best solution. Can you give a better solution??
The more you spread venom against islam the more it will rise…
mac, here if it helps you….
Quran (2:282) – Establishes that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man’s in court.
Quran (24:4) – And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them…
Quran (24:13) – Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.
Quran (2:223) – Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…
Dear S Khan,
We have removed your first name for your privacy, we hope that is okay with you.
We are truly sorry to hear of your case. Even after 3 years of true love, your marriage ended within 6 months. This is sad. We hope you could talk it out or get help from a marriage counselor and make your love work.
You married through Nikaah, that means she (Hindu) must have converted to Islam by Shahadah. Can you please confirm that fact? Also, for Nikaah, she must have been given a new Muslim name, was it true? Read her name in the Nikahnama. These are important legal points. Can you clarify, please?
As per Indian law, only the first marriage counts. In your case, that is the Islamic nikaah. However, can one ignore the second marriage? Not really.
Polygamy is allowed in Islam and in India for Muslims. If you two Muslims married by Nikaah, yes talaak and polygamy are accepted and legal practice in India. Your life would have been lots easy if that was the only case. However, the civil wedding is creating more issues for you.
Complexity in your case is that you also got married by the Special Marriage Act 1954 (we assume) where you declared your self as a Muslim while she as a Hindu (even she had a Muslim name and legally a Muslim after Shahadah; actually this is a case of apostasy). Thus now you have two choices: 1) try to prove this civil marriage is invalid (not easy!) or 2) follow through divorce proceedings that rest of Indians have to go through. Unlike talaak, divorce is very complex. You have to file divorce papers, show a few years of separation and then the Judge will grant your divorce. We assume it may take 1-3 years of time to have divorce. Can you wait for that period before the second marriage?
You mentioned “one more nikaah as she wants me to move into her house and keep second wife with my parents”. Two wives is heaven on this earth but that could put you on legal trouble because you also had a civil wedding. We recommend to get clearly out of current marriage to be legally safe.
What did you learned out of your exciting dating, love, marriage and now getting ready for divorce? What tips you would give to other Hindu-Muslim couples dating today?
One caution and declaration about us: we are not lawyers/attorneys but giving suggestions as a layman. Please check with a divorce attorney who is a Muslim.
Really admin.
I didnt see people like you who is worst
You are not here for giving the solution to the spouse rather you are dis appointing like this questions.,and you are forcing them to separete…
we had several times says on polygamy and talaq. . but you want to do the same. . .
you are playing with the religion… i can come up with hindu marraige and divorce act which is worst and illogical things are there in hinduism but i dont want to expand this on your site
So i request you to give better solution.. not to play on religion things
since both are going against their religion . . they will punish. . if you play like this you also get punish. .