Sha Gull says: December 27, 2012 at 9:53 am
Hello Admin/Sateyn, and muslim sisters,
Nice to read different comments on different blogs.
I wish to share that few years back, the press and radios in Britain were abuzz with reports that muslim girls, especially Pakistani muslim girls, UK, were demanding the Hymen Repair Service free on the NHS, Britain. It was reported the demand for this service had gone up many fold in recent years.
If done privately, the hymen can be repaired for about 4,000 pounds sterling, while if approved, it can be done free of charge on the National Health Service.
The demand for this service arises from the fact that muslim bridegrooms ask for virgin brides, so muslim girls after this operation pretend to be virgins, while enjoying premarital sexual relationships.
One wonders if muslim men REALLY need a virgin bride, for on dying a jihadi death, they are guaranteed 72 virgins (plus 30 odd pearly-eyed boys), who revert to being virgins after each sexual intercourse ! In that case, do they really want an ‘earthly’ virgin bride?
Now coming to my own life history, I have been brought up and studied in a free enviornment of Britian, so don’t hesitate to disclose that I even enjoyed premarital sex many times with boys of different communities, like Hindu, Budhdhists, Christians, like the other girls in the hostels enjoyed.
I am in relationship with a sikh boy, who has sexual relations with me and wants to marry me, but my parents wants me to marry with a Pakistani boy. If decided to marry with a Pakistani, I have to repair my hymen to restore my virginity. I am also a working woman (28 years), personally don’t want to do that surgery, rather to marry Sikh boy, who does not use turban and works in the same company with me.
I am here really to know what should I do?
Respond -Sha Gull
.
Admin says:
Sha Gull,
You are in a very difficult situation. You are raised in the West and do not truly believe in Islam. If you marry to that Pakistani, you are not going to able to please him and be an “obedient” wife that his family may be expecting you to be. Further, even you were really virgin, those families will always doubt you that probably you had hymen surgery. You will not be able to fulfill all Islamic community’s expectations because after all you are a “free” minded lady.
If you do decide to go against wishes of your parents, you will have guilty feelings. To please your parents, you will ask the Sikh to “fake” convert to Islam before your Nikaah. Later, your parents and your Muslim community will expect too much out of that “former” Sikh, and ultimately his life will become totally miserable. In the end, this “fake” conversion will ruin lives of two youths and their extended families. We highly recommend not to ask the Sikh to convert to something he is not (no BBS).
Bottom line is, now you have to make a major decision for your life. It is time for you to decide what Islam and Muhammad’s teachings mean to you. You have three options:
Option 1) If you come to a conclusion that Islam comes first for you, then have that surgery done, forget all your past, marry to that Pakistani, become fully follower of Islam, start wearing hijab, start praying five times a day, make your mother-in-law happy and start following Koran literally. You will have enlightening wonderful happy married life and will raise wonderful Muslim children.
If after your marriage, you do discover that the Pakistani had already a wife and children, do not be bothered because this is acceptable by the Koran. Just submit to Islam and be happy. You may have a hell THIS life now but will have a wonderful AFTER life.
Option 2) If you see problems with Koranic teachings, if you wish your husband not be literally like Mohammad, believe that Muslim women are treated unfairly and it is high time Islam should change, then do that is right thing to do (and do not demand the Sikh bf to raise Muslim children). Be a pluralist; accept Sikhism, Islam, Hinduism and rest as all valid religions. Start following Allah and ignore Mohammad’s teachings. Before assuming this will work out, please meet his Sikh parents and see that the Sikh bf is protective for you.
For this option, remember that even you have a very happy and joyful THIS life, wait for the Hell Fire in the AFTER life (if you still believe in Islam).
Option 3) We are not sure if this option is a good idea, we will wait to hear from other Muslims on this.
Considering you are from the West and hopefully the Pakistani is also open minded like you, go tell him that my past life is my personal matter and his past life is his. We will not be bothered by it or ever ask questions. Be honest and do not have the surgery. If he accepts, go marry him. However, do not plan for a baby at least two years in married life. If later in married life, he become fanatic, just be ready to dump him then. Best wishes.
So, Sha Gull, if Allah Himself comes right in front of you and tell you that, “Sha Gull, I have made you intelligent, mature, financially independent, put you in the West and gave you critically thinking power; now do that exactly what I wanted you to do.” What do you think Allah wanted you to do? What would you do? Keep us posted. -Admin
.
Sha Gull says: December 29, 2012 at 5:37 am
Thanks for the comments. My parents comments were not favourable. Being an indepent and not in a muslim country, I dont like to put myself in restrictive life and repent later on. I shall raise my kids as per choice of my husband. I am now comnmitted to marry my sikh BF now. -Sha Gull
.
Also read: Islamic Women Today, Inter-race marriages, Hindu-Muslim marriages, Hindu girl, Muslim girl, Hindu boy, Muslim boy, Christian-Muslim marriages, Hymen Repair Surgery,
Be a friend on Facebook. Return to InterfaithShaadi.org. To share your experience, read.
i m a girl and wanna undergo hymenoplasty as i lost my hymen in sex.plz plz plz tell me a good surgeon in peshawar by whom i can get it done..May Allah give u ajar for it..help me plz
Any place in Sri Lanka?and prices?
If muslim woman marry outside islam she will get hell fire. if you do not want to go hell then vist http://www.usislam.org true knowledge of islam. All the posts found in this wabsite are giving fake knowledge of islam
I thot that human kind are already in hell due to islam terrorism. You are saying there is another hell? Great cant wait to see that. LOL
Terroism is againest those who fight againest muslims or help enemies of islam.
To learn more who is responsibe for 9/11 attacks on muslim vist http://www.usislam.org
This is due to jews who had taken palistine from muslim and are killing thousand of muslim in gaza strip.
9/11 was due to jews.
Vist http://www.usislam.org
Dear Admn. Thanks for making an exclusive blog for educating our muslim girls and save their married life.
It is really a great service done by you through this blog. Some interesting and useful information and guidance has been given by our intellectual sisters. They are not in good number, but atleast some of them have given their views so frankly and intelligently, which I myself had never anticipated. The use of artificial hymen kit is a great blessings in the modern age particularly for muslim girls,who had subject to torture, rape, murder, domestic violence, cruelty, discrimination, kidnapping, torture and so on…..
My sincere thanks once again. VM
Hello every body,
Previsouly from Iran but presently born and brought up in Canada and also studied in coeducation pattern here. I am 27 years old and working girl in Toronto. During my study , I got in touch with several boy friends and enjoyed premarital sex frequently, loosing my virginity at 18years old, since I was greatly impressed by canadian life style and deadly against muslim restrictions on females, as I obvserved in case of my mother since childhood. My parents wanted me to marry my own cousin haling from Iran also but settled here.
I happened to talk to him on various issues and came to know that he wanted a virgin wife, whereas he was married earlier and divorced his wife. I told him frankly when you are not virgin, how can think of a virgin wife? His mother came to know about this argument and one day came to me and asked me whether I was virgin or not? I told her that I shall marry only a virgin husband not your son. Ultimately relationship for future broke. Now I am marrying a Hindu boy, who knows every thing about me and working my company also.
My purpose to write all these things is just to make aware our sisters not to marry such muslim guys who are not virgin themselves but need a virgin wife. We should oppose such discriminatory mind set of islamic religion.
IN MY VIEW HYMEN REPAIR SURGERY IS A BOON FOR MUSLIM GIRLS OTHERWISE THEIR EXISTENCE SHALL COME TO AN END. IF MALES CAN CHEAT, FEMALE MUST CHEAT. TIT FOR TAT.
Respond to Sahila at https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=4012
only secular nations and secular laws can protect muslim women.
Sharia laws in muslim lands will wipe out any rights women can claim for themselves. See below how an Indian court helped a muslim girl forcibly married off to a married man, at least temporarily. I must caution you all that the below story ultiimately will end up as a sad end for the second girl. The muslim gangs will not allow secular court to intervene and fianlly the girl cant escape the noose tighteened by the muslim men and their moulvi. Read below:
Holy Quran allows polygamy, not encourages it: Court
New Delhi, Jan 1, 2013 (PTI):
A maulvi, accused of performing a girl’s marriage forcibly with a married man, has been denied anticipatory bail by a Delhi court which said the Sharia Law allows polygamy but only under special circumstances.
The court denied the relief to Maulvi Mustafa Raja of Delhi dismissing his arguments that as per the Sharia Law, a man is allowed to keep four wives at a time.
“I may observe that even in countries governed by Sharia (Islamic) law, the second marriage is permitted under special circumstances such as an illness of the first wife or her inability to bear children.
“In these cases, with the first wife’s consent, a man may marry again and this is referred to as polygamy, a subset of polygamous marriages. The Holy Quran permits a Muslim man to marry more than one woman at a time (up to a maximum of four), but does not encourage such behaviour,” Additional Sessions Judge Kamini Lau said.
The court also said polygamy is only permitted in certain circumstances including when the husband’s death has left his wife with no other means of support.
According to the police, Raja had forcibly got the girl married with accused Nadeem Khan last year without her consent and also in her parents’ absence and that the victim was raped by her alleged husband.
Even the consent of Khan’s first wife, from whom he has got three children, was not taken at the time of his second marriage, the police had said.
The girl had managed to escape from Khan’s clutches and had informed her parents about the incident after reaching her house, it said.
The court, while dismissing the anticipatory bail plea, said the practice of polygamy has been regulated or abolished in many Muslim states/nations and it cannot be encouraged in a liberal democracy like India.
“In the secular states of the Muslim world such as Turkey and Tunisia, polygamy is illegal in any form. Even in the nations where it is permitted, polygamy is only practised by a small minority.
“Before a man can take an additional wife, he is required to obtain the consent of his existing wife or wives,” it said.
The judge also observed that polygamy is permissible in Sharia Law “as a part of social duty and charitable motives or when it seeks to prevent destitution.”
“Keeping in view the conduct of Maulvi Raja and the seriousness of the offence involved, I find no ground to grant any indulgence to the accused. The application for grant of anticipatory bail is hereby dismissed,” the judge said.
Maulvi Mustafa Raja had moved the sessions court fearing his arrest in an FIR registered at Aman Vihar in North West Delhi.In the FIR, he had been accused of forcing the girl to marry an already married man.
Hymenoplasty in Saudi Arabia section, includes general infrmation about Hymenoplasty Procedure, Hymenoplasty Saudi Arabia Local News, Hymenoplasty Saudi Arabia Surgeon Locator and other Hymenoplasty related material.
Hymenoplasty Procedure
(Hymen reconstruction, bringing to pre-sexual state)
Hymenoplasty is one of the three major areas of cosmetic vaginal surgeries.
The procedure aims to correct dysfunctions and improve the woman`s hidden aesthetics.
The way a woman feels about the look and sensation in her vagina and pubic areas has a major impact on her self-esteem, her sexual desire, and her intimate relationship.
There are three major areas of Cosmetic Vaginal Surgeries, aimed to rejuvenate a woman’s sexual feeling:
• Hymenoplasty (hymen reconstruction, “bringing back to virginity”)
• Vaginal reconstruction and rejuvenation (vaginoplasty, mainly vaginal tightening)
• Labia surgery (labiaplasty, labia reduction and look improvement, correcting the size and shape of the inner and outer lips)
Hymenoplasty is a surgical procedure designed to repair or reconstruct the ring-like skin membrane partially covering the opening of the vagina (the “hymen”). Bleeding occurs when the hymen tears, which is typically the result of a woman’s first experience with intercourse. The Hymenoplasty surgery will pull the tissue back together to restore a “virgin-like” quality.
Quite rarely, a female can unknowingly tear her hymen by inserting a tampon. It may also happen during sports (e.g. – bicycles or horseback riding).
The biological function of the hymen is still uncertain, however, its social function is popularly regarded as a mythical symbol in many cultures. Therefore, qualified plastic surgeons perform Hymenoplasty at the request of women who need the surgery for ethnic, cultural, or religious reasons.
There is a growing number of patients who desire higher sexual satisfaction by undergoing the Hymenoplasty procedure, not for religious or similar reasons, but because the vaginal walls are tightened.
Hymenoplasty generally takes about one to two hours, with patients able to return to work the next day. Restoration of the hymen is done on an outpatient basis, under local anesthesia or sedation. Prior to surgery, patients are required to have a pre-surgical consultation and thorough gynecological examination. During this time, she should communicate her needs and expectations to the doctor, and in turn, will learn of the possible risks and benefits to hymenoplasty.
Vaginal physiological state significantly affects a woman’s physiological state. Structure reconstruction of the vagina may well bring back the younger feel, and contribute the sexual life and self esteem improvement a woman is looking for.
Some surgeons perform procedures involving laser surgery, where others use methods such as radiosurgical techniques or scalpel techniques.
Depending on the choice of doctor and geographic location Hymenoplasty prices may range between $2,000 and $5,000.
Your doctor / surgeon will explain how long the surgery will take, the amount of time and care necessary for a full recovery, and exactly when after surgery it would be safe to resume sexual intercourse
with full satisfaction and pleasure.
ore About:surgery for womenhuman interest
Hymen reconstruction, a surgery that repairs a hymen that is no longer intact, is controversial but that doesn’t stop more and more women from having it done.
The hymen is a tissue in vagina that tears and bleeds when one has sex for the first time. The hymen can also be “broken” by strenuous exercise, the use of tampons and other activity can cause the membrane to tear.
So what does it matter? Who cares if the hymen is intact or not? Well, in some cultures, men do. In cultures where virginity is highly prized, it matters a great deal if the hymen is intact and if there is bleeding on the wedding night. It may be an old fashioned way of thinking, but some men expect their bride to be a virgin and there can be extreme consequences in some countries.
Rather than stay a virgin, women are opting to experience sex before marriage, then have the hymen reconstructed. The surgery isn’t terribly expensive, around $800 in China, where it is becoming more common. Muslim countries also have a large number of women seeking the procedure.
More about hymen reconstruction surgery, and one man’s explaination of why women are “like cell phones” and why his future wife should be a virgin?
Respond
Zeenat says: January 2, 2013 at 7:22 am
Hello Muslim sisters,
Dont worry about loss of virginity before wedding night.
Hymenoplasty in Thailand is a viable option for women who wish to appear chaste before marriage or want to recapture the first intercourse experience. Those who want to save considerably and remain discreet about their hymen repair should consider virginity surgery in Thailand.
Hymen repair surgery in Thailand is available at a lower price than in First World countries, such as the US, the UK, and Australia, because of the lower cost of living. However, the affordable prices of cosmetic surgeries such as sex change and laser vaginal rejuvenation in Thailand does in no way imply compromising the quality of the surgery you will be receiving—the reputable Bangkok plastic surgeons have undergone rigorous medical training and are compassionate to the needs of medical tourists.
Besides the low prices and quality surgery, the popularity of Thailand’s tourist activities also attracts numerous foreign patients from all over the world. According to the article “The effects of medical tourism: Thailand’s experience,” by Anchana NaRanong and Viroj NaRanong published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization on September 22nd, 2009, Thailand provided medical services to as many as 1.4 million foreign patients in 2007.
Hymen Repair – How It’s Done?
During the procedure, your surgeon will numb the area with a local anesthetic. The edges of the previously torn hymen will be brought together to re-form the small ring as it was originally.
The surgery is not recommended for women who have had vaginal deliveries or who have been pregnant.
After the surgery, the “revirginized” hymen will bleed and tear during sexual intercourse as it would prior to any sexual relations.
Hymenoplasty takes about one hour to perform.
The recovery period typically takes about two months. Patients should not exercise or do any strenuous activities (including sexual intercourse) for the first couple of weeks after the surgery. Patients can usually go back to work after one week.
Advantages of Hymenoplasty in Thailand
One does not have to worry about going over his/her budget, as the hymen repair cost in Thailand is much lower than in the United States, the Middle East, the United Kingdom and other European countries and Australia.
With medical tourism in Thailand on the rise, the country’s doctors and hospital staff know how to make foreign patients feel welcome. The leading plastic surgery hospitals in Bangkok are replete with all the modern facilities and equipment. Additionally, English-speaking hospital staff and multilingual translators make communication between the patient and the doctor a breeze.
Getting hymen reconstruction surgery in Thailand allows you to be discreet about your hymen repair. You can simply tell friends and family members that you are flying out for a vacation so they will not know you will be undergoing hymen repair in Thailand.
You will be in good hands during your virginity restoration surgery in Thailand, as there are numerous JCI-accredited hospitals in the Southeast Asian country.
If you have been considering other aesthetic procedures besides hymen repair surgery in Bangkok, now is the time to do it. Obtaining procedures such as a nose job or fat transfer in Thailand along with your hymenoplasty will help you save considerably.
Things to Consider Before Undergoing Revirgination in Thailand
While an affordable hymenoplasty cost in Thailand is important, patients should take care not to let price be the only factor in their decision. Making sure that the hospital is reputable and the surgeon is board-certified is crucial to getting the desired results.
When considering hymenorrhaphy in Thailand, it is important to plan out your mode of transportation.
Whether obtaining hymenoplasty or buttock implants in Thailand, it is important that you research your doctor and hospital of choice thoroughly before traveling to Thailand. You may want to look at before and after pictures, patient feedback, and online forums.
The best time to visit Thailand is November through February.
Undergoing a hymenoplasty in Thailand is a great way to save on costs while obtaining high quality surgery. And during your stay to avail hymenoplasty in Bangkok, you would love being able to indulge in the city’s various sightseeing activities as you recover.
Respond
Golbahar says: January 2, 2013 at 6:07 am
Hello readers,
In my opinion, when both male and female are creation of almighty, if the male can enjoy premarital sex with out proving their virginity for marriage, if the females enjoy premarital sex and get their hymen repaired for wedding night, what is the harm? Females have right to equally satisfy their physical requirement at a time, when they need from the male whom they prefer.
It is really a boon for females to get their hymen repaired for marriage to teach lessons to the males. Due to present libral environment and socail net working sites including sexual chattings, the courage for early sex has arisen among teenagers and they enjoy many times before being married. The cases of hymen repair surgeries through out the world particularly among muslim females have increased many times and such center and clinics are earning a lot.
Respond
Farzana says: January 2, 2013 at 5:48 am
Hello Tiger,
But in fact a jackal.
Who is responsible for the present condition of females in Islam?
According to Islamic culture Muslim girls must be virgin when they enter a marriage. For girls who had not succeeded in doing so, the wedding night hangs like the sword of Damocles above their head. A hymen repairs operation offers a way out. “I’ll do everything, if only I’ll bleed.”
“I was greatly relieved when I was after it.” Yasmina (22) from Rotterdam sits on a bench in Zuiderpark. She wears jeans with a leather jacket and big silver earrings hang from her ears. After thinking and weighing it for a long time, Yamina had finally promised to talk about one of the great taboos in the Islamic community: the hymen repair operation.
Yasmina: “I was 19 and head over heels in love with with a boy at school. He was also Muslim and when he heard from my girlfriends that I though he was nice, we started talking. My girlfriends warned me that I should still look out because he was known as a player, but I was too in love to listen. More than that he told me I was the one. Exactly three months after I went out with him it happened. He swore to stay by me, but when I called him up the following day he broke it off.”
At that moment Yasmina realized that she would never be a virgin when she married. “I felt terrible. Not being a virgin before marriage is one of the greatest sins in Islam. My mother always told me in the past that girls who gave away their virginity will never marry. I really wanted to get married and out of fear kept silent.” Three years later, when Yasmina was ready to get married, the panic began anew. “My fiance made no secret of the fact that he thought it very important that I was still a virgin. I was then also terrified of what he would do if I didn’t bleed. Probably he would immediately separate from me. By chance I happened on the internet on a clinic that offered hymen repair operations. At that moment it seemed to me the perfect solution. A couple of days ago I had the operation and next week I’ll be married. I know that I can’t erase the past, but the hymen repair operation made me in any case a virgin again.”
Yasmina is one of the hundreds of girls in the Netherlands who go through a hymen repair operation annually. The operation is especially popular by Muslim girls of Turkish, Moroccan and Hindu origins. In this group there’s often enormous obscurity about the hymen. The girls are raised with the idea that the hymen is a type of glass membrane that closes the vagina and which only lets the menstrual blood flow through. During the wedding night this membrane is perforated and the girl bleeds. In many North-African countries it is even usual on the following day to show the bloodied sheets to the family. When a girl is no longer a virgin, she is repudiated according to tradition. In the Netherlands, despite the present time, this tradition is persistently held on to. Girls who lose their virginity without marriage go into complete panic.
Wies Obdeijn- Van Welij, doctor and sexologist, gets 50 girls a year who beg for a new hymen. “Most girls who come here still think that they must bleed when they lose their virginity.”
“In the past maybe it was so that in the Islamic culture certainly 90% of the girls bled during the wedding night. But this happened mainly because they married very young and through marrying off still barely knew their partner. Because of the nerves there wasn’t a state of arousal and that resulted in bleeding. Today certainly 40% of the girls don’t bleed during the first time. Also the hymen is not a film that must be pierced but barely a bordering tissue.”
However many girls decide to go through the repair operation. Obdeijn- Van Welij: “The idea of bleeding is often held so deeply that they barely believe anything else. They just want most of all to bleed during the wedding night. As the tradition prescribes. An operation can take care of that. During the operation we pull the edges of the hymen more tightly so that the girl almost certainly will bleed. When they’re done with it, they often go home happily. Virginity is strongly connected by these girls to the hymen.” If it’s intact, it means they’re virgins.
Saida (25), from Amsterdam, had a hymen repair operation two years ago. She sits in a station restaurant in The Hague because she is afraid to be recognized in her own neighborhood. “Though every Muslim knows it happens, nobody talks about it,” she says. “This is the first time that I tell about it. When I was seventeen I lost my virginity. It was a boy from class with whom I had a courtship at that time. Naturally I felt very guilty afterwards, but my fear began just when I was about to be married. At any cost bleed during the wedding night. I didn’t want my husband to be disappointed and also though even as a virgin you don’t have to bleed, my husband would never understand that. Above all, I had no interest in difficult talks during my marriage. It had to be perfect. Therefore I had a hymen repair operation. The wedding night was perfect. I bled and my husband was completely happy.”
However the operation is disputed. Many gynecologists refuse to perform the operation because it upholds the myth regarding the hymen. Ineke of Seumere is a gynecologist at the UMC in Utrecht and performs the operation only rarely and on exceptional indications. When we support the idea that a virgin must bleed during the wedding night nothing will ever change. Not only do we agree that a virgin must bleed, we also help to keep the tradition. A tradition that according to Seumeren is full of contradictions. Isn’t it strange that a man may have sexual intercourse before marriage but demand a virgin? Therefore I get girls repeatedly that have used anti-conceptions for years, and now they want a quick restoration before their marriage.
Obdeijn-Van Welij agrees with the gynecologist’s story. “There are even girls who come to me that are yet plainly virgin and want to make sure that they bleed. But I think that it’s not up to use to change the tradition. You shouldn’t forget that these girls are a second generation of guest workers. They are girls that have enormous double feelings. On the one hand they grow up in the free Netherlands. On the other hand they don’t want to disappoint their parents. I think that the situation will change by itself. Till that time, I will attend girls as well as I can. That’s what I’m a doctor for.”
Yasmina is not worrying anymore about her wedding night. “Through the operation my problem has been solved. My husband will tear my hymen, and I will bleed for him. May be feeling proud of him.
Respond
Tiger says: January 1, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Ye Admin
Bhain ka lauda, is ki Amma ku jab
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 kutte (Dogs) and
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Ghade (Donkeys)
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Suwar (Pigs)
and every of this animals
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times Fxxxed her Mother,
jab jaaker ye Kutta, Ghadha, Suwar Paida hua hy,
Isiliye aise website banaya hy.
Jab jaaker
Respond
admin says: January 1, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Tiger,
Can you guide what Saina should do now? She is confused about Islam and need your guidance. Can you ask other Islamic experts to come and guide Saina?
Why you are blaming this web site? If not this web site, Saina would have said this at other web site. Important point is to guide Saina to a right path and all are welcomed to share their own views.
We recommended her to focus on good education now, is that a good advise? What would you say?
Respond
Shejadi says: January 1, 2013 at 4:52 am
Nice advice given by Saimah.
Saina you should act as per advice given by Saimah and need not to worry about Imam. Imam will never tell truth, as they are interested in enjoying their life with sex and cruelty on the females.
Respond
suma says: December 31, 2012 at 9:33 am
There is no permanent hell or paradise in Hindu theology. One accrues karma out of one’s actions in a life time. After death one comes back in a different body and transmigrated atman (or soul) and then continues the journey with accrued karma. By the way this applies to ALL HUmans regardless of the faith one belongs to. Sadly muslims and Christians threaten the people with dire consequences like hell to those who are not christians or muslims.So you are better off believing in hindu doctrines and forget about the eternal hellfire. AS you said, all christians and muslims are abused psychologically with the hell inevitability to apostates and others. Live without fear and do only good things. So dharma-karma-moksha is the doctrinal sequential philosophy we believe in. God is not cruel to create hell for ANYBODY.Relax.
Respond
suma says: December 31, 2012 at 9:39 am
learn about savage Islam by reading ‘faithfreedom.oreg’ run by Ali Sina, and further explore Nonie Darwish, Wafa sultan and Ayan Hirsi Ali. These are all educated muslims and tell you about the savage religion and savage prophet Mohammads. By the way they are all muslim men and women.Google those names.Learn the facts and take a decision.
Respond
Saimah says: December 31, 2012 at 2:23 am
Hello Saina,
You are educated and modern girl and so you need not to bother about the advice of Imam/maulvi who are most cruel and corrupt/criminal to discriminate and torture female community. They are the follower of so called Prophet, who did not spare his own grand daughter like 6 years old girl to rape at the age of 59. Be tactful, get age of maturity, look for a nice non-muslim guy, who is kind,intelligent, cooperative. Can you disclose your country right now? In Islam women are subject to so many innumerable cruelties, in security of women.
Respond
admin says: December 30, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Saina,
You are only 15 years and fully dependent on your parents now. For your personal safety, please do not talk against Islam to your boy friend (even you may think he is trust worthy), parents or to your imam. Punishment to renounce Islam is stoned to death, no kidding, they mean it.
Further, do not mention to ANYONE about this post. Do not brag to anyone in your school. If your community finds out your opinion and views expressed on this site, you could get into deep deep trouble. This is not the right time to go public with your real identity.
Ignore Islamic issues now, it is not a right time for you, instead fully focus your mind and time on your education.
When ever you are frustrated, just come here and express your feeling to the world. No one will find out who you are and thus there is no harm to you. Act smart. Be careful
Ye Admin
Bhain ka lauda, is ki Amma ku jab
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 kutte (Dogs)and
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Ghade (Donkeys)
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Suwar (Pigs)
and every of this animals
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times Fucked her
Mother,
jab jaaker ye Kutta,Ghadha,Suwar Paida hua hy,
Isiliye aise website banaya hy.
Jab jaaker
Is Sha Gull was your sister, what you would recommend her to do today? Please advise!
Arre Chinal ke Admin
Tu Teri Bhain ko bhi isi tarha Chudwana chahta hai kya, jaise teri Maa ne
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 kutte (Dogs)and
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Ghade (Donkeys)
100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Suwar (Pigs)
se CHUDWAYA tha,
Tere jaise chinaal ke paida hone se hi is desh me Shaanti nahi hai,
Kutte ki maut marega tu,
Forced marriages in Muslims.
Police in the northeastern Spanish region of Catalonia have intervened to prevent the forced marriage of a 13-year-old girl belonging to a Muslim immigrant family from Morocco.
The girl was one of nine reported victims of forced marriage in Catalonia during the first six months of 2012. Seven of the reported cases involved minors, but in several instances when police were alerted, they were unable to intervene in time to prevent the marriages from taking place.
Catalan police, known locally as Mossos d’Esquadra, have reported a cumulative total of more than 50 forced marriages involving minors since the regional government began compiling official data in 2009. Police, however, say this figure represents only “the tip of the iceberg”; many victims are unaware of their rights and most of the cases go unreported.
The issue of forced marriage is especially acute in Catalonia, where the Muslim population has skyrocketed in recent years. Catalonia, a region with 7.5 million inhabitants, is now home to an estimated 400,000 Muslims, up from 30,000 in the 1980s.
The Muslim population in many Catalan towns and cities now exceeds 20%; and the town of Salt, near Barcelona, where Muslim immigrants now make up 40% of the population, has been dubbed the “new Mecca of the most radical Islamism” because of efforts by Muslims to enforce Islamic Sharia law there.
According to Catalan officials, the majority of forced marriages in Catalonia involve Muslim girls from North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia and the Middle East. The majority of the cases involve immigrants from Morocco, followed by Pakistan, Gambia, Guinea and Senegal. Marriages are often arranged with a cousin or another family member to continue the tradition, to prevent the Europeanization of the girls, or to pay outstanding debts.
According to Catalan police, four of the cases of forced marriages during the first six months of 2012 occurred in the Catalan province of Gerona, one of the most heavily Islamized regions of Spain. Police say they were able to prevent only two of the four weddings. Three of the others occurred in the city of Barcelona, and two were within the province of Barcelona. All nine involved Muslim immigrants.
Children, on their own initiative, have even approached the police for help. The situation involving the 13-year-old girl, for example, began in January 2012, when the girl’s mother, with whom the child had been living in Gerona, died, and the father, who was residing in neighboring France, took the girl to live with him in Toulouse.
Once in France, the girl discovered that her father was planning to marry her off to a man in Morocco in early July. The girl alerted police in Toulouse, who transmitted the information to the Spanish consulate in the city. Spanish authorities then devised a scheme in which the girl persuaded her father to take her to Gerona on the pretext of completing some official paperwork. Once across the border in Spain, police arrested the father, and the girl was transferred to a foster home in Gerona.
As forced marriage is not an offense under the Spanish Criminal Code, police have been trying to use other legal avenues such as pursuing crimes involving sexual assault, unlawful detention, gender violence and kidnapping. In the instance of the 13-year-old, police determined that the girl was being subjected to physical violence, and arrested the father for child abuse. But as is often happens in Spain, the judge overseeing the case ordered the father to be released from jail.
Many reports of forced marriages of children reach police through schools: victims often confide in a trusted teacher. In one such case in 2011, police in the Barcelona suburb of L’Hospitalet arrested a 27 year old Moroccan man for forcibly marrying a minor.
The case came to public attention after a former teacher of the girl, who lives in the same apartment complex as she, alerted the police. A subsequent investigation found that the girl’s family had taken a trip to Morocco where the child was forced to marry against her will. Once back in Spain, the girl contacted the teacher, who then called the police.
Investigators found that the girl was being detained in her new husband’s apartment against her will and that she was a victim of rape. Once again, the judge hearing the case ordered the husband released from jail.
In another case, a young Pakistani girl subjected to forced marriage escaped from her husband and wandered alone on the streets of Barcelona for ten days until gathering the courage to report her situation to the police.
In some cases, the trigger for forced marriage comes when young women from Muslim immigrant families find a boyfriend in Spain and angry parents intervene. A 17-year-old girl in Gerona, for instance, was coaxed by her family to travel to her native country for a family reunion. Once there, she was forced to marry her cousin. Although she resisted because she had a boyfriend in Gerona, she relented when her family threatened to prevent her from returning to Spain if she refused to sign the marriage certificate.
Catalan police say they prevented 21 forced marriages in 2011, 13 of which involved minors; 15 forced marriages in 2010, and 13 in 2009. They also say that in 2011, they prevented the genital mutilation of 36 girls aged between two years to 12. Most of the cases (27) occurred in the province of Barcelona, eight in Gerona and one in Lérida. In 2010, Catalan police prevented the genital mutilation of 28 girls, and in 2009, 55 genital mutilations. Catalonia accounts for 80% of the girls in Spain who are at risk of genital mutilation.
Local police say that many Muslim girls in Catalonia live in fear of the so-called family reunion in disguise and that they often speak of friends who left Spain, but never returned
Hello
Thanks for the comments. My parents comments were not favourable. Being an indepent and not in a muslim country, I dont like to put myself in restrictive life and repent later on. I shall raise my kids as per choice of my husband. I am now comnmitted to marry my sikh BF now.
Thanks and congratulations for freeing yourself from the restrictive ideology of Muhammad and embracing liberal lifestyle. Hereafter, we request you to helpliberate other Muslim women from the ideologcal slavery.
Sha Gull,
Now as you are stepping into a marital relationship, you will be supposed to be loyal to your spouse, irrespective of who you choose. You didn’t disclose the reaction of your parents on your intention to marry the Shikh guy. Will you be going full heartedly even against the resistance put up by your family? Think about it.
In case you decide to go whole heartedly with the Sikh guy, you will have to change your minset and the way you see/think the world. It may include discarding Muhammad and many of his diktats in Quran and Hadiths. Note that the Quran is Muhammad’s creation, not a revelation from Allah, and hence is not infallible. Moreover, it’s the creation of a person who is not at all a choice of any sensible Muslim women for her husband. So, accept only those teachings of those books that teach you to love whole of the humanity irrespective of their belief system. The real Quran is implanted in your heart, directly by Allah without any middle man! Allah is all powerful and he doesn’t need the help of any prophet. It’s time to separate Allah and Muhammad along with Muhammad’s books. It’s good to have utmost respect for Allah and praying him devoutedly but not necessarily the way mentioned in Quran or Hadiths. Also respect the Sikh Gurus, their Book and their celebrations to mingle with their family. You will also have to leave ‘halal foods only’ habit and possibly vegetarian items could be a frequent part of the menu at the dining table.
Discuss with the Sikh guy about your children and their upbringing. You are supposed to teach them about rationality and critical thinking instead of thrusting Muhammad and the divinity of Quran as well as Muhammad. Teach humanity and seeing other girls as human being, not as a prey to swoop on including the cousins. One of the biggest differences will be that the cousins and the children of close relatives of your children will be like their own siblings for physical matters. Sikhism, like Hinduism, teaches to control one’s self including sexual desires instead of letting it go uncontrolled.
Allah may inspire/guide you for a blissful life ahead!
Thank you Admn. for wonderful advice and probable options available to me. I have talked with my would be Pakistani husband and told him that I shall not put Hijab, I shall be working and I need freedom of movement for job and meeting my relatives even out of pakistan. He was hesitant to reply specifically. Then I told him I shall rethink about marrying him and convey my decision. Same thing I told my parents to ensure from my would be in-laws. They did not agree.
I talked with my Sikh BF. He told that he would not insist her to change her religion, she will enjoy all sorts of freedom of movement and job gracefully. Now I have made up my mind not to go for Muslim guy, as it will not be possible for me to tolerate restrictions and no need of hymen repair.
Please guide me the precautions that I should take for a happy and maried life with my Sikh BF.
Do not jump from a frying pan to fire. You are burned by Islam, but Sikh community may have different sets of problems for you.
What the Sikh bf says in love is one thing and how he is able to protect you from his parents is totally a different matter. Please go and meet his parents several times and feel out how you, a Muslim, will fit in Sikh community. Remember history, there are many Sikh-Muslim wars and those scars are still fresh in many minds. It is possible that you may be able to win their hearts over years and get over all miss-trust.
The most important question you will have to address is the religion of your children. Read the Muslim girl and Sikh-Muslim marriages (especially Salman-Amrita) articles. Are you going to be comfortable taking your children to a Mosque on Fridays and to a Gurudwara on Saturdays? Are you a true pluralist?
We must add two other pieces of advise to all.
Pre-marital and extra-marital sex should be discouraged. It is not good for society and for a healthy married life. What would a person with pre-marital sex guide to his/her daughter of 13 years who wishes to go for a week-end trip with a boy friend?
The other point is, in general, within faith marriages have less problems compared to interfaith marriages. Every one should put sincere efforts to find a mate within their own faith (read LOVE verses ARRANGED MARRIAGE). Interfaith marriages with equality are only for truly pluralist (or ethiests).
Sha Gull, meantime you find out facts and reality with the Sikh guy, please consider other Muslim guys (as a back up plan). Do not rush into any decision till you are sure for what you want and sure for what you are getting into.