Malaysian Christian Guy with Algerian Atheist Girl

Algeria plusone says: May 10, 2015 at 7:23 am

Dear admin and people who have contributed to this forum,

Thank you for your input as it has been very helpful. I’m a Malaysian Christian guy, in a serious relationship with an Algerian girl. Her religious views are atheistic which gave me the comfort that i was not involved with a muslim. We both would like to provide the freedom of choosing a religion to our offspring.

Now that i am conducting a research on our available options for registering our marriage, it seems to be the case that i can register our wedding in Malaysia with an Algerian girl in a civil court, provided that i can:
a. Present a confirmation letter from the algerian government that she is not a muslim (ok this might be the most difficult thing to get).

Questions:
1. Is it possible for that confirmation letter to state that she does not follow the doctrine of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah on creed, religious laws and ethics? Will that document be legitimate enough to consider our marriage into the civil courts of Malaysia?

We definitely are not able to register in Algieria because it explicitly states that the application of an algerian woman to a non algerian husband needs to be accompanied with a Certificate of Muslim Religion.

All feedback and responses are greatly appreciated. Thanks -plusone


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3 Comments

  • May 10, 2015 8:06 am

    Dear Plusone,

    This is sad that government control your life. Even you are a Christian and Atheist, still you have to please the Muslim laws.

    Jimmy said “Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah” then he is considered a Non-Muslim”. If so, then Malaysian government should not have problem. We hope other expert will confirm this.

    What is her birth faith? Will her parents support your love? Can you go to Singapore and register your marriage there?

    • plusone
      May 11, 2015 6:52 am

      Hi there,

      That’s right. Jimmy’s statement was something new to me and i thought it could be a loophole around the system. Who else may i consult to get confirmation on this? I wouldn’t want to expose this loophole to the government.

      As per your question:
      1. How can i establish that since religion is not recorded in her ID book?
      2. We have agreed to tell her parents after we’ve established our plans to proceed with the future (which is what I am doing now). But she knows that her parents will support because she is happy. My parents on the other hand have been a strong advocate of Malaysian only marriages (due to the complications in having a foreign spouse)
      3. Yes, that was one of the options we looked at. But it may complicate the civil status of our children. We are looking for a permanent solution to ensure our offspring’s nationality can be considered non-muslim. Then he/she will have the freedom of religion without government jurisdictions. Will singapore be the solution?

      Thanks

      • May 11, 2015 9:56 pm

        Why don’t you ask your friend to call us government on “Jimmy’s statement”? They will explain him/her what laws are in place without hurting your case. We understood that Malaysian government only care about their Bhumiputras (Sunnis) and consider others non-Muslims. If this is true, you are in good shape.

        Don’t count on her parents easily agreeing to your non-Islamic marriage. She may be underestimating her parents. Now is the time to check out with both sets of parents. Other think is go ask your church and they may pose you solutions. Yes, Singapore is a good solution and then register your marriage as married people in Malaysia. Let us know what others have to say. Read laws here.

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