paki_women says: April 2, 2013 at 11:40 am
I never thought I would be writing this ever in my life. The first time I read your so many texts and articles over the rights of women in Islam. Some male critics, like recent one Zunaid, will never accept realities for obvious reasons.
When I was in my 6th grade, I was unhappy at certain things that I got to know about the way women are treated in Islam. This included the property rights and divorce procedures. But never in my entire life had I known that Muslims actually used to rape prisoners of wars and this was sanctioned by the Prophet. All, in my entire life, I read in my Islamic books that Muslims treated prisoners with kindness and this and that. I don’t find any sort of kindness in raping women who were captured. The only kindness was when they invaded Mecca. Maybe they did not mistreat the Meccans because it was the city in which our so called prophet was born and his relatives and the relatives of his followers were living there.
Well I do know one thing; maulvis in Pakistan tell us strange things like when we look into the mirror we should recite this; when we enter the house should say that; when we travel we should recite that dau, etc. These are the things they teach us. But, why do they hide such a BIG THING such as Muslims used to rape women captured in their raids? Yes it can only be called RAPE. How can a girl allow a person to have sex with her when they have killed her brother or father or husband? I cannot imagine myself or my mother or my sister in such a condition. It makes me sick to the stomach. You opened my eyes. I used to think so badly of the soldiers who raped women in Iraq. But the point is, are Muslims any better? They raped women when they could. Now, according to the logic of Islam, Iraq was in a state of war; therefore, based on Islamic reasoning, it was perfectly justifiable for the conquering army to raped the women.
Again based on Islamic logic, Iraq lost, so basically all the people in Iraq should become slaves of Americans including their women and children. But the thing is, only a handful of women in Iraq were raped and their rapists are prosecuted and sent to jail. Had it been the other way round and Muslims were the conquerors of a non-Muslim country, all the women would have become booty of Muslim soldiers and all of the pretty ones would have been raped.
I feel disgusted! I cannot imagine my six year old, or any six year old girl to be married to a 52 year old guy NO matter how religious that person is.
I am a woman and I don’t have a “short memory,” as Muhammad said. I am not “deficient in intelligence” either. I have outsmarted many guys in my life. All my life I have studied on scholarship and right now I am perusing a degree again on scholarship. Then how can our prophet say we women have short memory and deficient in intelligence? This is scientifically wrong.
Now considering that a girl is raped, where in the world can she find 4 eyewitness men to testify in her case? Rape is not a circus that people will be invited to watch. It’s usually done in an isolated place where no one can see. Say a girl was raped and gets pregnant. She needs 4 witnesses to prove that she was raped and usually there isn’t even one. But the proof that she had sex out of the wedlock is there in her womb. Then what will happen according to Islamic law? She can’t provide any proof of rape. So she will be accused of adultery and stoned to death. Does this sound just or logical? No it doesn’t, at least, to those, who have a heart and a brain.
Your conversation with that lady, Julia Roach, shook me to the core. It made me feel ashamed, sad, and mad! What have I been following all my life? They tell you only the good parts, but never these truths.
We in Pakistan never bothered to read the Quran in detail. We only knew what we were taught in our schools. The rest, we just depended on the scholars (who obviously lied to us, told us the good things, nothing about slaves and their rape was ever mentioned).
I tried to tell the things that I have learned to my family, but they have started calling me Kafir and stuff. When I was in Pakistan I used to be the same. I just wouldn’t listen to anything that was against Islam. I would close my eyes and my ears. I cannot denounce Islam publicly because my parents would be ashamed of me. I do not follow it anymore; and if I get a chance anywhere, I point to the fallacies of Islam to my friends as well. If I tell them that I have denounced Islam, they will never listen to me. I want them to listen to me and think logically just the way I did.
Kind regards. -paki_women
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whatever it is we can compare all the teachings of relegions over all winner is Islam. God is Rightful for Any Rule in His world and Any kind of Reward For His believes. He is the Only Master of Universe and If someone find any thing Wrong then Put ur Wepon And Wisdom in Your and Create ur own Universe. or Try to force the Sun to Rise from west to down in East. You Can Not. So Lean Before Him. He does what He wants. All the Teaching of Islam were right at the time and place with the Traditions. And Go To Crist and Jewish Books and Learn about The Prophet divinated/forcasted in your books. If You just get the Knowledge Of Him just you would know what You Are and What u Are. BuT You Will not embrace even that is clearly written in Your Books. You Even Dont Admit Your Books about it… lol… Funny about u All…
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All the terrorist organisations are creation of western countries by creating wars in arab countries and the crea tion of Isreal.
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Muhammad did not sacrifice himself. He launched 87 or 88 raids in the last ten years of his life, never taking part in person to person combat. He never fought in any battle personally. He would wear two coats of mail (chain link armor), one on top of the other, protected by his bodyguards while shouting and encouraging his followers to hasten to their deaths for the rewards that awaited them in the other world.
He massacred thousands of innocent people in his life and after him; his successors killed hundreds of thousands. This number eventually reached to hundreds of millions and counting.
Muhammad resembles Hitler, not Jesus. This is a clear clue to know that he was not a true prophet, but an impostor. If I have a vision to become rich and sacrifice others to achieve my goal I can’t be a good person, let alone a holy person.
Now, let us talk about the vision. The vision of Jesus for man-kind was liberation, freedom, salvation. These are all synonymous words. Freedom from what? Freedom from false beliefs, false religion, rigid rules, arbitrary authority, etc. This is, what is called “liberation discourse.” This freedom is the essence of Jesus’s vision for mankind. You can summarize Christianity in five words: “Truth will set you free.” Jesus sacrificed himself for this vision so others can be free.
Muhammad also had a vision. His vision was slavery of man. He said this slavery is to God. However, the god he was talking about was his own alter-ego, a tool to make people do what he wanted. The slavery was to him. Allah was a fictitious being, without whom he could not achieve his vision of domination and mastery over others. Why would anyone want to fight and sacrifice his life for someone else? But if you can convince them that they are not fighting for you, but for God and that they will be rewarded, in this world and the next, they may do anything for you. They may kill for you, plunder for you and allow you to have sex with their underage daughter.
I am not a Christian. I don’t believe in God. In my opinion Jesus is a composite myth. I am mentioning him only for the sake of comparison. My point is that IF God existed and IF He wanted to send someone to guide mankind, he would send a holy soul like Jesus and not a despicable thug like Muhammad.
Millions of Germans committed unthinkable atrocities. These were ordinary people. They fought a bloody war. Many of them sacrificed themselves heroically, not for Hitler, but for the “cause” that he sold them. The cause was only an excuse. Hitler was not after racial or national superiority, he was after personal superiority. He used these as pretexts.
All cult leaders have a cause. They never promote themselves directly, because it will never be accepted. You will have no one following you if you promote yourself. But if you promote a cause, and convince others that this cause is important and you are pivotal and indispensable for its success, you can have many followers. Hitler chose nationalism and restoring the German pride as his cause. Stalin chose proletariat and class struggle as his cause. Jim Jones chose social justice as his cause. Charles Manson chose preservation of air, trees, water and animals (ATWA) as his cause. Shoko Asahara chose the end of perpetual suffering through rebirth as his cause, and so on and so forth. Muhammad chose the worship of God and monotheism as his cause.
All these causes sound noble. You have to give people a worthy cause, if you want them to sacrifice themselves for you and commit atrocities at your behest. If your cause is worldly, you can’t expect anyone to sacrifice himself for it. Let us say your cause is to make a lot of money. If you have a good plan many people will work with you to achieve your vision, as long as they get a piece of the pie at the end. But no one will be willing to sacrifice his life for it. Whereas, people cheerfully lay their lives for a lofty cause, such as God, country, justice, etc.
The cult leader makes himself inseparable from his cause. The success of the cause depends on him and him alone. Without him there will be no cause and disaster will ensue. He must be perceived as the only person who can bring mankind to his vision of the promised land. That is the key. There are many causes that are important, but they are not cult because their success does not depend on any single person. Let us take the example of fighting Islam. In my opinion this is the most important cause today. The survival of our civilization and millions of lives depend on the success of this cause. But it does not rely on any single person. Millions of enlightened people are fighting against Islam and thousands more are joining every day. A cult is a cause that hinges on one person. Muhammad made himself inseparable from his cause. You cannot believe in Allah without believing in Muhammad. He was the linchpin of his message. Allah and Muhammad are twins, joined in their hips. One is hidden, the other is manifest. They are inseparable partners, promoting each other. All cults share this characteristic. Anytime a cause and a human become inseparable you have a cult.
The cause per se is irrelevant. Narcissists are not committed to any cause. They pick a cause that they think can attract followers and will abandon it and champion another one if the latter proves to be more effective. When Muhammad started his prophetic career, he had no cause other than the claim that he was a prophet and that people had to believe in him, love him and follow him. That was his message and his cause. But that was a very shallow cause with little appeal. He then adopted monotheism as his cause and started insulting the religion of the Quraish. This strategy proved more successful as it generated controversy and raffled some feathers. As advertisers say today there is no such thing as negative advertising. Any advertising attracts interest. It dose not matter what you preach; there will be always someone who will follow you. But Muhammad wanted more. When he faced resistance and saw that his religion is not growing, he conceded that Lat, Uzza and Manat, the three daughters of allah Hubaal are also worthy of worship. This made people happy and the animosity ended. But it did not gain him new followers. In fact it made his religion indistinguishable from the paganism of the Quraish. After a few months he realized his miscalculation and retracted his words saying Gabriel came to him and admonished him for saying something he (Gabriel) had not said. He said those verses were Satanic verses that the Devil had put them in his tongue without him noticing it. The narcissist, needs enemies. He needs to stir disunity and discord. It’s by dividing that he can rule. So Muhammad switched back to monotheism and resumed insulting the religion of the Quriash. There is more of this kind of flip flopping in the life of Muhammad. His message kept changing according to the response he was getting.
Narcissist cult leaders want total control over the lives of others. This can be attained only by selling them a noble cause – a cause so lofty and so inspiring for which they may want to sacrifice themselves. The cause does not have to be true. It just has to be perceived as the ultimate truth. In fact, as Hitler used to say, a bigger lie is more believable than smaller lies. We should believe him. He was an expert in lies.
Do you really believe that Muhammad designed Islam as a timeless religion for billions of people just to fulfill narcissistic ambitions in his short 22 year career?
Yes! That is how narcissist cult leaders devise their causes. Their causes are always transcendental, cosmic, encompassing, unrivaled and divine. The cause is the source of their power. The loftier and the more awe inspiring it is the more powerful they become. Will you kill your father, your mother or children for money or for any trivial cause? No sane person will commit such crime for any mundane gain. However, if I elevate the cause. make it sound more important than your life and the lives of everyone, you will do it. There are many stories like that in early Islam. You can find them in my book and you will see them in my movie. Even today, Muslims kill their children because they violate some Islamic rule or apostatize. That is because for them Islam is more important that the lives of all mankind. When you become this brainwashed, you become very dangerous.
Does a narcissist obligate people to feed the poor, give charity, look after orphans?
Yes, 0f course! The narcissist will have to first convince you of his legitimacy and for that he will tell you things that you can readily recognize as good. Will anyone follow someone who spews only evil teachings? The narcissist’s only tool is deception. He also uses fear, but that too is administered through deception. He can control you as long as you believe in him. Therefore, he must portray a holy image of himself. It is that image that hooks you. If the mask is removed he will lose all his credibility and power. For the narcissist, the image is everything. Therefore his words are always lofty and deceiving.
So how can you distinguish a true leader from an impostor charlatan? You can recognize them by their fruits. Don’t pay attention to what they say. Words are used to deceive. Pay attention to how they live. Compare their words with their deeds. They often don’t match. If someone does not walk his own talk it is a clear sign that he is an impostor and not true spiritual leader. Muslims only quote Muhammad’s words to show that he was a holy man. Words are misleading. Look at his life instead, if you want to learn the truth about him.
It’s worth repeating: for the narcissist the image is everything. He feeds off other people who hurl back at him an image that he projects. That is the main difference between a narcissist and a sociopath. The sociopath does not care about his image. He wants to control his victims physically through fear. Both sociopath and narcissist use fear as the a tool of domination. The former uses fear physically, such as threatening his victims with maiming them or killing them. The latter uses it psychologically, such as threatening them with Hellfire. The narcissist resorts to violence through his followers, when he comes to power. He doesn’t generally soil his hands with blood. His minions will do all his dirty work for him. The aura of holiness for a narcissist is a sine qua non. All cult leaders, without exception, are “holy people.” They want to be admired as holy men and they brag about their holiness while feigning modesty.
At-Tirmidhi quotes a hadith that is typical narcissistic talk. “The Prophet said, I myself am the Beloved of Allâh (habibullah) and I say this without pride, and I carry the flag of glory (liwa ul-hamd) on the Day of Judgment, and am the first intercessor and the first whose intercession is accepted, and the first to stir the circles of Paradise so that Allâh will open it for me and I shall enter it together with the poor among my Community, and I say this without pride. I am the most honored of the First and the Last, and I say this without pride.”
Now compare this pompous bragging with his actions. He lived like a thug. He was the head of a gang of bandits who raided innocent people, ruthlessly massacred unarmed men, took their wives and children as slaves and sold them or raped them. He assassinated his critics, tortured his prisoners to death to make them reveal where they had hidden their money, and had sex with a child. He actually went after two other children but the girls were afraid of him and cried out “I take refuge in Allah from you” and he desisted. One was Jauniyah from Bani Jaun and the other was Fatima bt. Zahhak from the Hawazin tribe.
If I do any of the things Muhammad did, you would not hesitate to call me a criminal and would rejoice in hearing my execution by lethal injection. I confess that I become very happy when a despicable criminal is removed from the society for good. Yet you have no problem believing that Muhammad was a holy man, the best specimen that human race can produce and justify all his crimes. Can you explain that? This is cultic thinking. The fact that Islam is spread widely and now 1.5 billion benighted souls believe in it, doesn’t make it a true religion. It is still a cult.
Jesus lived a holy life. He never committed any of the crimes that Muhammad committed, and yet, when someone called him good master he objected and said the only good is my Father who is in Heaven. Do you see the difference? A man who lived like a monster, claimed to be the most prefect man and the most immaculate man refused to be called good.
Did Muhammad feed the poor and the orphan? No! He raided, looted people and reduced thousands into poverty. He made thousands of children orphan. There is a famous story of a certain Oqba, a man he captured in the battle of Badr and decided to decapitate him because he had spat at him in Mecca, some years earlier. Oqba cried, “And who will take care of my children?” Muhammad responded, “Hell.”
Muhammad did not help the poor. He only helped those who had migrated to Medina with the money that he had stolen in his raids, with their help. Any gangster will show generosity to his gang. This is done to buy their loyalty. Did you see the movie Godfather? Wasn’t Don’t Corleone, the head of the family, generous and helpful to people who came to him for help? They wanted to pay him for his services, but he was offended and refused to get their money. Why? Because he wanted to gain their loyalty so in future they may return the favor. Muhammad did not help any orphan. He only gave lip service to it to feign piety. Up to this day you quote his deceptive words, even though you can’t provide any example of his generosity to the poor and the orphan. That is why he said them. Without these words would you or anyone follow him? You are deceived by these sugary words. To undeceive yourself you have to ignore his words and look at his deeds. Know them by their fruits.
Does a narcissist say that animals live in communities like us and should be respected?
First of all animals don’t live in communities like us. Only chimpanzees and other big apes that are very close to us have societies that barely resemble that of primitive human societies. Even then their “society” is more similar to lion prides than to human societies. So this claim is scientifically wrong.
Furthermore, this verse does not imply that animals should be respected. This is your interpretation. Muslims are fond of interpreting the asinine verses of the Quran to find something meaningful or even miraculous in them. The biggest festivity in Islam is Eid Ul Azha when countless animals are slaughtered. Muslims also sacrifice animals when they go to pilgrimage. Until not long ago the carcasses of these animals were buried. There is no prohibition of cruelty to animals in Islam. Other people consume meet but they do their best to reduce the suffering of the animal. Muslims don’t consume meet unless the animals has been killed cruely. Halal meet means animal torture. I encourage people to boycott stores that sell halal food.
Does a narcissist say that you should never go to sleep full when your neighbour is hungry?
Yes! The narcissist is full of lofty teachings for others. His entire plot is to deceive others that he is a holy person. But in practice, he gives a damn about the poor and the hungry. Read the story of Banu Qainuqa and Banu Nadir. Muhammad invented false excuses to expel them from their ancestral homes and took everything they owned. Many of them died with hunger in the desert, something Muslim historians gloated about. The charges against them were all fabricated, but assuming they were true, were all of them guilty, including the children?
Does a narcissist love his wife as much as Muhammad loved and cried over Khadijah?
You need to read my book. I have explained the symbiotic relationship between the narcissist Muhammad and the co-dependent Khadijah. Both these individuals were sick. They needed each other. He was a child to her to take care of and she was a mother to him, to exploit. They both enjoyed this sadomasochist relationship. As a psychiatrist you know the symbiotic relationship between a narcissist and a co-dependent. It works, but it is not love. Please read my book.
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do you think that muslims(not fake muslims) believe all the lies you posted on this site. All the muslims know what is in the quran. Terrorism in the muslim countries is due to biggest terrorist organsation america and isreal. Taliban is the creation of america to keep unrest in muslim countries . One person here gives estimate total of christians killed by muslims and how many muslims were killed in gaza strip iraq war and in kashmir. America first created isreal to creat unrest in muslim countries and removed 9 lakh arabs in palastine. And then created taliban againest soviet union after that america created 9/11 and then started fighting againest terrorism which she created herself. Muslims are given right to fight in self defense and give rules how to deal with thouse who fight and spread hatredness and do some injustice and creat oppression in muslim countries. 9/11 was 100% musad opreation vist above site for more details. To know about islam vist http://www.irf.net
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The crap you are writting againest islam is exposed on islamic site
http://www.answering-christianity.com
do you think that muslims(not fake muslims) believe all the lies you posted on this site. All the muslims know what is in the quran. Terrorism in the muslim countries is due to biggest terrorist organsation america and isreal. Taliban is the creation of america to keep unrest in muslim countries . One person here gives estimate total of christians killed by muslims and how many muslims were killed in gaza strip iraq war and in kashmir. America first created isreal to creat unrest in muslim countries and removed 9 lakh arabs in palastine. And then created taliban againest soviet union after that america created 9/11 and then started fighting againest terrorism which she created herself. Muslims are given right to fight in self defense and give rules how to deal with thouse who fight and spread hatredness and do some injustice and creat oppression in muslim countries. 9/11 was 100% musad opreation vist above site for more details. To know about islam vist http://www.irf.net
Do you have any proof, whatever you write against Jews and Christians is not written in bible or torah, you are anti Christian and anti Jew. Jesus will ensure you rot in hell, its still time, you can accept Jesus as your god and be saved from hell fire.
About 90% of Muslims do not bother to read Quran with its translation. But still, they believe that Quran is a “miracle” of Allah. If Muslims ever bother to study Quran with an understanding of its meaning and an objective mind, they will find absurdities, hate verses, contradictions, Pseudo science, stolen stories of bible, stories of Mohammed’s wives, stories of his companions, abrogated verses, satanic verses, grammatical errors, dreams of heaven, torture of hell, Allah’s anthropomorphic face, non Arabic words, inequalities, badly copied biblical verses, humor, vulgar language ,Mohammed’s nervousness, his anger, his feelings, his hatred for Jews, his lust, his marriage with daughter in law, his atrocities, his lootings, his pedophilia, his hallucinations, his broken oaths, his broken treaties, misogynist verses, scriber’s wording and many other “miraculous” things. And they will never find any wording for peace except of some ayats of Mecca when Mohammed was weak and a poor shepherd. But they will not get the idea of missing verse of stoning, lashing and list of missing verses and the Quran which is hidden to Muslim “ummah”. Only Shia Imam has “hidden” knowledge about that part of “miraculous“ Quran.
It is a common belief amongst Muslims that the Quran is a treasure-trove of miracles and all kinds of sciences. They universally believe that Westerners get all their sciences from the Quran. It is as much their fault as of some Western (pseudo)scientists, who find all kinds of “$cience in Quran”. Yet, they do not accept Islam, which makes it obvious that they do these to be fattened with petrodollars from the rich Saudi princes.
We, ex-Muslims, have debunked all the deceptive claims of Quranic Sciences over the past years. But they are spread in the form of pieces in FFI forum. I have collected all the data regarding “miracles of the Quran” in this E-Book.
Many authors have contributed to forking out the information contained in this book and credit should go mostly to them. The following main contributors deserve a special mention:
Hector [forum, Faith Freedom International]
Khalil Feriel [forum, Faith Freedom International]
Ali Sina
Abul Kasem
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Hello every body,
Evidence of institutional Islamophobia in Germany’s security services
Saturday, March 23, 2013
Employees of the department tasked with observing militant Islamists reportedly throw around deeply offensive, Nazi-affiliated words in private of the kind which would be unthinkable in a public setting.
These range from Herrenrasse, the German for “master race” to Muselmann – originally a German word meaning “Muslim man” later used by the Nazis as a slang word for emaciated death camp inmates who had surrendered to their fate – to Ölauge, a derogatory name for “greasy” dark-eyed foreigners.
In one case currently the subject of an internal investigation, an agency employee is said to have offended co-workers in his office by positioning a doll of a Teutonic Knight with his sword pointing at a miniature mosque, wrote the paper.
Employees of the department tasked with observing militant Islamists reportedly throw around deeply offensive, Nazi-affiliated words in private of the kind which would be unthinkable in a public setting.These range from Herrenrasse, the German for “master race” to Muselmann – originally a German word meaning “Muslim man” later used by the Nazis as a slang word for emaciated death camp inmates who had surrendered to their fate – to Ölauge, a derogatory name for “greasy” dark-eyed foreigners.
In one case currently the subject of an internal investigation, an agency employee is said to have offended co-workers in his office by positioning a doll of a Teutonic Knight with his sword pointing at a miniature mosque, wrote the paper.
Dear Admn.
I would like to add further from the following heading:
MUSLIMS ARE ALLOWED NORMAL SEX WITH DEAD WOMEN AND ANIMALS
Muhammad had sex with a dead woman to qualify her for the perks of a prophetic wife.
According to Hadiths and Sayings of Prophet on issues of women in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.
Narrated by Ibn Abbas: “I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and SLEPT with her in her coffin.”
The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali, his son-in-law. Commentators have offered differing views about the significance of Muhammad’s sleeping with the dead-body of Fatimah in her coffin, some emphasizing that it had no sexual side. But Arabic scholar Demetrius explains that to express Muhammad sleeping inside Fatima’s coffin with her dead-body, “The Arabic word used here is “Id’tajat”, which literally means “lay down to have sex.”
Muhammad is also understood to have said that because he slept with her, she has become like a wife to his; so she will be considered like “mother of the believers”.
After Muhammad slept with her and “consummated”, Medina women routinely offered themselves to Mohammad for sex so that the holy fluid of the prophet released into them will qualify them for paradise. Here is a hadith.
MUSLIM ARE ALLOWED “ANAL” SEX EVEN WITH DEAD WOMEN AND ANIMALS
Sahih Muslim, Book of Menstruation, Hadith 525:
Travelling recently on a London bus during one of the rare hot Spring days, I noticed a burqa-clad Muslim woman just next to me. She was caring for her small child sitting in a push chair.
The woman was fully covered in black head-to-toe with only her eyes showing. It was feeling hot; so she must have felt the heat more.
I wondered:
Is she okay?
How much of her freedom is compromised by this garb, this burqa?
If she has freely consented to wear such a garb then the answer is none, all is okay; I should just relax and hope for a cool breeze to come through this crowded bus. But how could I know that?
I felt very ambiguous.
What if she is forced by her culture, religion and/or husband to dress in a manner that is against her will, and obviously very uncomfortable if not dangerous?
Let me change the scenario somewhat. If a woman was periodically being hit on the head by her husband and made no effort to avoid being hit or to complain about it and got used to it (kinda culture), most people would still be uncomfortable about it; most would probably try to do something about it. Or if a woman, say as part of her culture, was dragging around a ball and chain, or had a yoke secured to her neck but in a calm and deliberate manner went about the shops purchasing supplies for her family, would we not raise an eyebrow at least? Would not most people recognise such ‘apparel’ as abuse and move to stop it?
Something close to this actually happened to me once. Several years ago, while waiting on the platform for the train to arrive at Edgware Road tube station, I noticed what appeared (by their dress) to be a Muslim couple nearby. The man began to pull the woman about in a not-so-friendly manner. The train came in and he forcefully began pulling her onto the same train that I was catching. She began to complain, raising her voice ever so slightly, saying ‘no, no’; she clearly did not want to go with this man. I thought, OMG, what do I do now – and why me?! Fortunately, a male member of staff got to the couple before I did and asked, ‘is there a problem?’ The man doing the pulling said, ‘there is no problem; she is my wife.’ The worker moved between the two of them and invited the woman to his office on the platform, which she gladly accepted, leaving the man behind to take the train without her.
For me and probably for most people in our society there is a presumption of innocence; we want to believe that other people are generally free as we are. But in situations which are contrary to common sense, like wearing multiple layers of clothing on hot days, we take notice and wonder, or should anyway. The person is either mentally ill, hiding something dangerous, or is forced into the situation. If we suspect mental illness or danger, we call the proper authorities or confront the situation ourselves.
But because of the religious aspect of burqa behaviour, we are trained to look the other way, to ‘pass by on the other side.’ We do this, because, to our mind, people choose their belief system freely and can freely leave it if they want.
But we should remember Islam is not like that. Individual freedom is not at all in the Islamic list of endearing qualities or characteristics. To just mention two texts in this regard, Qur’an 4:34 allows husbands to beat their wives, and Muhammad made it clear that apostasy must be punished by death (Bukhari 9.84.57).
But all the same, the woman on the bus could have freely consented to wearing this burqa on this very hot Spring day, but how was I to know? Like the man pulling about his ‘wife’ on the tube platform, intervention may be required.
But prior to intervention, one must know!
Western society would not accept the enslavement of any human being by another in their midst. We have matured in that respect. We would not accept it even if the enslaved person accepts her slavery! But if the woman in question freely chooses to be a ‘slave of Allah’, that is another matter; that would be acceptable. The difficulty is knowing whether the woman is a ‘slave of Allah’ or enslaved by the people around her: her family, her husband.
So information is crucial, which, in today’s society, is a missing component in situations like this. Even the ‘respect for other cultures’ argument is fatuous when compared to slavery.
Knowledge is the only way to resolve this moral dilemma.
I therefore propose a licensing system whereby a woman is able to show that she is really free. Such a system is already in place throughout society for all sorts of purposes. Owners of dogs often must have a license to show ownership and rabies shots etc. and the dog wears a tag of some sort. Car owners must have an annual check up on their car and show a certificate on their car window at all times for minimal safety functionality. Shops must have a license to sell alcohol, etc…
It is not beyond the capacity of the state to incorporate this function for Muslim women. A simple certificate on a burqa that is visible would suffice. This certificate would need to be dated and renewed once a year at a special office of the state. The certificate would be issued once the interviewer is satisfied that the woman is a free agent and willingly wears a burqa in weather that is normally too hot to wear such apparel.
So when next time I am in a bus on a hot day, and a woman wearing apparel suitable for the artic comes on, I will be able to see her certificate and relax, or at least only feel sorry for her choice of belief system, rather than her physical suffering. If the certificate is not visible, well then, that would be a different situation…
It is not enough to simply feel sorry for, or simply wonder about, women who boil inside burqas. We must be assured of their freedom or cool them down!
Robert,
The west needs to more correct than politikly correct. You remember these Muslim folks raped Brit girls who are just 14-15, reason they give in court is they are not wearing burka so according to there Islam the girls are responsible for arousing them, who rape them, which is a human tendency. Well tendency of a Muslim chap is pretty much the same, these fucking Pakistanies are the filthies of most Muslims. These ugly bastards have sex with there mom sister cousin…god knows who all, may be camel, goat and what not. Instead for this…our politically correct media shows them as Asians, why don’t they say ” Muslims did that”, Muslims are the once who starts , religious division, when that division affects the social fabric, tension is generated, that’s why we need EDL, we need all the non Muslims to support EDL, there methods are sometimes wrong, but they are only wrong when Muslims start is first. You tell me how many ghetto/no go areas at present in UK along, can you imagine normal person going there? Why? Coz we are hiding behind political correctness and humanly approach for these beggers, who chose a Christian countries for asylum, why don’t they just fucking go to a Muslim countries, they would be treated the way they want. Basterds !
All the rapes in western countries about 99% are commited by non muslims. Western countries are no 1 in rape cases.
All the rapes in western countries about 99% are commited by non muslims. Western countries are no 1 in rape cases. Islam will continue to grow in western countries. Thousands are converting to islam and 3/4 are women.