There is a confusion for this Bukhari. Is this statement by Muhammad wrong?
Muhammad said: “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9.84.57)
Bukhari 6:60:79
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Umar:
The Jews brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from among them who had committed illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet said to them, “How do you usually punish the one amongst you who has committed illegal sexual intercourse?” They replied, “We blacken their faces with coal and beat them,” He said, “Don’t you find the order of Ar-Rajm (i.e. stoning to death) in the Torah?” They replied, “We do not find anything in it.” ‘Abdullah bin Salam (after hearing this conversation) said to them. “You have told a lie! Bring here the Torah and recite it if you are truthful.” (So the Jews brought the Torah). And the religious teacher who was teaching it to them, put his hand over the Verse of Ar-Rajm and started reading what was written above and below the place hidden with his hand, but he did not read the Verse of Ar-Rajm. ‘Abdullah bin Salam removed his (i.e. the teacher’s) hand from the Verse of Ar-Rajm and said, “What is this?” So when the Jews saw that Verse, they said, “This is the Verse of Ar-Rajm.” So the Prophet ordered the two adulterers to be stoned to death, and they were stoned to death near the place where biers used to be placed near the Mosque. I saw her companion (i.e. the adulterer) bowing over her so as to protect her from the stones.
Rabia says: April 5, 2017 at 4:34 am
Admin, I just spoke to a Pakistani Sunni friend of mine who is a DEVOUT Muslim and knows a lot about Islam & Hadith, she is a practicing Muslim with hijab and also follows Islam and Hadith in her daily life.
After reading this Hadith “Muhammad said: whoever changes his islamic religion, kill him!”, I asked her what her view on this was as someone educated in Islam/Hadith, probably more educated than me.
I am quoting her reply to you:
“the Admin has misquoted the Hadith, it actually says “whoever changes his religion, kill him.” This Hadith, while being Sahih Bukhari, was never accepted and taken into the books of Hadith science as authentic/applicable and scholars did not endorse it. The problem is when any Tom, Dick and Abdullah – who himself probably doesn’t speak Arabic and possibly never even read the English version of those books of Hadith, or the scholars’ views of what should be taken and what should be left out – starts to have their own opinion on what she rights and what’s wrong. The biggest problem with Muslims today is lack of education in Islam and Hadith… people go online and read a few things and get convinced about what they should/shouldn’t be doing.”
Please quote this to other Muslims who have ever expressed any approval for this Hadith on this forum. –Rabia
Mhd Hamid Alkaff says: June 20, 2012 at 1:32 am
Alhamduillah, Allah is saving you.
I wanted you to realise something:
When you convert to Islam, the true and only path, it is not a game. Do not revert into a kufr and you will be killed if you are found out!
You should not mix with you kufr family anymore. If you cannot convert them then you should be prepared to kill them for Islam if you have to.
When you convert, please don’t expect to stand with us. You are a mawali and we have given you Islam and saved your soul from hell! What more do you want? Don’t try to get our Arab girls! They are not for you, so don’t talk to us about this kufr equality. Be thankful that Allah has opened your heart to Islam instead! –Mhd Hamid Alkaff
Apostasy: Narrated ‘Ikrima (UK):
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”
Source:
Bukhari 9.84.57
http://www.usc.edu/…/religious-…/hadith/bukhari/084-sbt.php…
“… according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”
Bukhari 4.52.260
http://www.usc.edu/…/religious-…/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php…
“… for the Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Qur’an 4:89
http://www.usc.edu/…/religious-te…/quran/verses/004-qmt.php…
89- They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
90- Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them.
91- You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.
Qur’an 9:11-12
http://www.usc.edu/…/religious-te…/quran/verses/009-qmt.php…
11- But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.
12- And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly) revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief [wage war against the leaders instigating apostasy]– surely their oaths are nothing– so that they may desist.
The Reliance of the Traveler (Islamic Law) – Apostasy
http://www.shafiifiqh.com/maktabah/relianceoftraveller.pdf
o8.0 APOSTASY FROM ISLAM (RIDDA)
(O: Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst. It may come about through sarcasm, as when someone is told, “Trim your nails, it is sunna,” and he replies, “I would not do it even if it were,” as opposed to when some circumstance exists which exonerates him of having committed apostasy, such as when his tongue runs away with him, or when he is quoting someone, or says it out of fear.)
o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
o8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representive) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.
o8.3 If he is a freeman, no one besides the caliph or his representative may kill him. If someone else kills him, the killer is disciplined (def: o17) (O: for arrogating the caliph’s prerogative and encroaching upon his rights, as this is one of his duties).
o8.4 There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (O: or any expiation, since it is killing someone who deserves to die).
o8.5 If he apostatizes from Islam and returns several times, it (O: i.e. his return to Islam, which occurs when he states the two Testifications of Faith (def: o8.7(12))) is accepted from him, though he is disciplined (o17).
o8.6 (A: If a spouse in a consummated marriage apostatizes from Islam, the couple are separated for a waiting period consisting of three intervals between menstruations. If the spouse returns to Islam before the waiting period ends, the marriage is not annulled but is considered to have continued the whole time (dis: m7.4).)
Rabia says: May 12, 2017 at 10:48 am
Dear Admin,
I did not forget my promise to revert to you on this topic, and here is the reply of the Sheikh I consulted about this issue of whether or not we can still apply this Hadith regarding apostasy in Islam today.
I am paraphrasing and occasionally using his words so any error (we spoke in English) is mine and not the Sheikhs.
Just to give background, he is a Sheikh who lives in the West.
“1) Islamic criminal law/shariah penal code is something that would only apply in Muslim countries. Punishment for apostasy (or anything like that) should NEVER be considered here in the West where we live.
2) Punishment for apostasy is NOT mentioned in the Qur’an. Within our circles, there is a lot of discussion whether or not we can still apply this Hadith.
There was a specific political circumstance within Islam where enemies of Islam were spreading lies, fabricating lies about it.
The ethos of the Qur’an is that you cannot, in any shape, coerce religion. What preachers affiliated with ISIS do nowadays is practice a “convert or die” strategy which is unIslamic, actually anti-Islamic.”
This was the gist of what he said and he said all this in response to my question when I asked “Sheikh, as a modern day Muslim, I cannot accept this statement as I also want my rights as a Muslim to be protected in non-Muslim countries where I live. What do you think about this Hadith “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.” Is this something Muslims should trust?
There you go, Admin.
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Enough, Islam is not based on your opinions, or your sensibilities. It is based on Qur’an and authentic Sunnah. There are a half dozen Authentic hadiths commanding the punishment of death for those who apostate, simple as that, finished. The exception is this punishment is not carried out by just any everyday Muslim who wishes or wants to. Islam is order not chaos. The apostate is taken to a true shariah court in a true shariah land. Given opportunity to ask Allah for forgiveness and should be compassionately advised from continuing with their crime. If they take this advice their blood will again become forbidden to shed. This is the ruling derived from looking at the Qur’an and Sunnah sources holistically with no modernist and emotional biased.
If a person fake-converted for marriage and “Leaves Islam” later then the punishment will not apply. They were not a Muslim in the first place. the same goes for those who are forced into Islam by compulsion.
Dear Admin,
I did not forget my promise to revert to you on this topic, and here is the reply of the Sheikh I consulted about this issue of whether or not we can still apply this Hadith regarding apostasy in Islam today.
I am paraphrasing and occasionally using his words so any error (we spoke in English) is mine and not the Sheikhs.
Just to give background, he is a Sheikh who lives in the West.
“1) Islamic criminal law/shariah penal code is something that would only apply in Muslim countries. Punishment for apostasy (or anything like that) should NEVER be considered here in the West where we live.
2) Punishment for apostasy is NOT mentioned in the Qur’an. Within our circles, there is a lot of discussion whether or not we can still apply this Hadith.
There was a specific political circumstance within Islam where enemies of Islam were spreading lies, fabricating lies about it.
The ethos of the Qur’an is that you cannot, in any shape, coerce religion. What preachers affiliated with ISIS do nowadays is practice a “convert or die” strategy which is unIslamic, actually anti-Islamic.”
This was the gist of what he said and he said all this in response to my question when I asked “Sheikh, as a modern day Muslim, I cannot accept this statement as I also want my rights as a Muslim to be protected in non-Muslim countries where I live. What do you think about this Hadith “Whoever changes his (Islamic) religion, kill him.” Is this something Muslims should trust?
There you go, Admin.
I will get back to you with scholarly answers from some scholars & imams I will speak to in 2-3 weeks.
I only have you my own views as an ordinary Muslim and my Pakistani Sunni friend’s who had come across this Hadith many times herself, while looking at forums and also as a Muslim raised with a curiosity for her religion so she reads and talks to imams a lot.
It’s best to NOT consult just those web sources but to ask real scholars and those well-versed in Hadith to explain whether this can be a legitimate part of Islam today or not…
Hi Rabia,
We searched in Google and found a consistent message regarding punishment for apostasy. Are these quoted are, in your words, “lack of education in Islam and Hadith”?
If someone fake-converted for marriage, it is okay to go back to his/own faith later on? Is Shahadah to be taken lightly? Tell us what is the punishment for leaving Islam. We need to tell truth to all these dating youths.